Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

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Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by kaialone » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:14 pm

Okay I feel almost silly for asking since I read this on Dragoball Wiki but... they wrote there that Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son. I always knew there were theories like that based on the fact that his father does resemble Dabra but yeah, it was only every a theory. But given the recent trend of Toriyama revealing all sorts of trivia and retcons I wouldnt be surprised if he confirmed this too.

So what I´m asking is, is this true?? Was this confirmed? :think:

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:19 pm

I beleive their is a manga about him. And I think he is darburas son that be cool if he fought and joined the z warriors

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:19 pm

No. It's just them assuming that since he looks like Dabra, he must be Dabra...even though Toriyama has a habit of reusing designs in other series.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:37 pm

Sandland is not apart of the Dragon Ball universe. Toriyama likes to reuse character designs. Even Tights is a complete carbon-copy design of Dragon Quest V's Bianca.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Herms » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:42 pm

The Sandland character is named "Satan", isn't he?

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Angelus » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:17 pm

Sand Land could be in the Demon Realm... a very long time ago before Dabura was under Babidi's control.

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Herms » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:42 pm

Angelus wrote:Sand Land could be in the Demon Realm... a very long time ago before Dabura was under Babidi's control.
Sand Land is set on Earth, or at least an extremely Earth-like planet, mostly inhabited by humans but with a village of demons (and also the Peach people). There's even mention of both Japanese and Western demons (holy water only works on the latter). I guess you could try and squeeze it into the same world as DB, but it strikes me as more trouble than it's worth.

Also, I checked and the Dabra-lookalike is indeed named "Satan". He's also huge, almost Enma Daio-sized. Maybe he's Dabra's big brother.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Dayspring » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:57 pm

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Angelus wrote:Sand Land could be in the Demon Realm... a very long time ago before Dabura was under Babidi's control.
Sand Land is set on Earth, or at least an extremely Earth-like planet, mostly inhabited by humans but with a village of demons (and also the Peach people). There's even mention of both Japanese and Western demons (holy water only works on the latter). I guess you could try and squeeze it into the same world as DB, but it strikes me as more trouble than it's worth.

Also, I checked and the Dabra-lookalike is indeed named "Satan". He's also huge, almost Enma Daio-sized. Maybe he's Dabra's big brother.
Not really. It would be set in the island chains to the east of the Eastern Continent (like where Dr Slump, Wonder Island, etc, are set). Everything we learn about the history of Sandland gets revealed to be propaganda at the end, anyway.

For the longest time, my headcanon was that this Satan was the reincarnation of Dabra until I recalled that he was sent to Heaven instead of to Hell.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by ZazamPow » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:23 am

We can get meta and say that Sandland is a prequel to Dragon Ball and Beelzebub is Dabura as a kid, and when he grew up he looked exactly like his father, as most children do. Then Dabura is actually a title rather than a name.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Angelus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:52 am

Why, what does "Dabura" mean?

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:59 am

Angelus wrote:Why, what does "Dabura" mean?
It means nothing. It was just an unnecessary change made to his original name in the manga "Dabra", which was taken from the famous magic incantation, "Abracadabra".

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Angelus wrote:Why, what does "Dabura" mean?
It means nothing. It was just an unnecessary change made to his original name in the manga "Dabra", which was taken from the famous magic incantation, "Abracadabra".
No, it's a direct romanization from the Japanese name. "Dabura" is how you would say the word "Dabra" in Japanese.

The dub does that weird thing where it stresses the "u" in his name, but there's nothing wrong with the spelling.
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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by kaialone » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:06 pm

Wow, thanks for all the responses. I figured as much, but yeah, you never know what bombs Toriyama may drop whenever youre not looking.

While I personally like to imagine that Dabra has a son that happens to look just like Beelzebub (Abraca? :P),I wouldnt want to squeeze the Sandland canon itself into Dragonball canon.

It was fun with Dr. Slump cause that ones so silly it cna be anywhere if tis funny enough, but Sandland had a more "serious" tone to it, or rather Toriyama´s flavor of serious, and idk the relationship between demons and humans was so important to its story, it´d be weird to foce it into a universe where there´s probably most of space between demons and humans.

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Re: Beelzebub from Sandland is Dabra´s son?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:15 am

Just re-read COWA! so I thought I'd point this out: Leonardo also has a near-identical facial structure and is a demon-y villain like Dabra.
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