Z:
Early Vegeta- Unwittingly Evil
Frieza- Chaotic Evil
Dr Gero- Evil
Imperfect/Semi-Perfect Cell- Evil
Perfect Cell- Neutral Evil
Buu- Chaotic Evil
Beerus- Neutral Evil...but mostly neutral
GT:
Baby- Chaotic Evil
Super 17- Half-unwittingly half-Chaotic Evil
Syn Shenron- Evil
Omega Shenron- Chaotic Evil
What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
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What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Why do so many people get the idea that Vegeta is some tragic figure that would be good without Freeza? He's not, he would still be pure evil even without him.
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
EXBadguy wrote:Z:
Early Vegeta- Unwittingly Evil
Frieza- Chaotic Evil
Dr Gero- Evil
Imperfect/Semi-Perfect Cell- Evil
Perfect Cell- Neutral Evil
Buu- Chaotic Evil
Beerus- Neutral Evil...but mostly neutral
GT:
Baby- Chaotic Evil
Super 17- Half-unwittingly half-Chaotic Evil
Syn Shenron- Evil
Omega Shenron- Chaotic Evil
Vegeta: was neutral evil. Only helped people of it served his purposes. He would have been evil or asshole even frieza didn't exist.
Frieza: was pure evil. So chaotic evil is right on the nose. If you didn't serve him or he believed you a threat. Boom. Their goes your planet. He is known to have killed billions. Unlike beerus who did it because it's his job. And Buu was insane. Frieza knew what he was doing wrong. He just didn't care.
Dr Gero: was neutral evil, he wanted mostly revenge on Goku and those who wronged him.
Cell: Cell was chaotic evil, he killed a lot of people maybe millions before he became perfect. Once he became perfect, he would have destroyed earth if their was no challenge. I say that's evil.
Buu: was chaotic evil, he cares little about anything all he cares about is destruction. Which he finds hilarious. That's evil. However unlike frieza, he is insane.
Beerus:neutral.
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
King Piccolo - Chaotic Evil
Vegeta - Chaotic Evil
Freeza - Neutral Evil
Cell - Chaotic Evil
Majin Boo - Chaotic Evil
I'm not counting villains like Nappa, Ginyu Force, Dr Gero, GT villians, because a supervillains to me were villains who had a significant lasting effect on the franchise and story and contributed greatly in terms of epic and iconic battles and moments.
Vegeta - Chaotic Evil
Freeza - Neutral Evil
Cell - Chaotic Evil
Majin Boo - Chaotic Evil
I'm not counting villains like Nappa, Ginyu Force, Dr Gero, GT villians, because a supervillains to me were villains who had a significant lasting effect on the franchise and story and contributed greatly in terms of epic and iconic battles and moments.
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Piccolo Daimao - Chaotic Evil
Vegeta - Lawful Evil
Freeza - Neutral Evil
Cell - Chaotic/Lawful Evil
Majin Boo - Chaotic Evil
Vegeta - Lawful Evil
Freeza - Neutral Evil
Cell - Chaotic/Lawful Evil
Majin Boo - Chaotic Evil
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Saiyans in general are Neutral Evil.
Vegeta - Chaotic Evil at Start of Z. Chaotic Neutral by Super
Freeza - Lawful Evil
Gero - Lawful Evil
Cell - True Neutral / Chaotic Neutral
Good Buu - Chaotic Neutral
Super Buu - Neutral Evil
Kid Buu - Chaotic Evil
Beers - Neutral Evil
Vegeta - Chaotic Evil at Start of Z. Chaotic Neutral by Super
Freeza - Lawful Evil
Gero - Lawful Evil
Cell - True Neutral / Chaotic Neutral
Good Buu - Chaotic Neutral
Super Buu - Neutral Evil
Kid Buu - Chaotic Evil
Beers - Neutral Evil
Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Vegeta (Saiyan / Frieza arc): Neutral Evil on the surface, but with a deeply buried embodiment of Chaotic Evil that emerged on rare occasions - Although portrayed as a battle craving villain with a constant urge to multiply his body count, he was internally seeded with a strategic mentality that drove him to kill accordingly. Conquering planets was probably his top priority, while creating casualties was likely only a secondary perk.
Additionally, not only did he spare two individuals that he had originally intended on killing, he also formed an alliance with them for the sake of accomplishing a greater goal. Even after having that goal somewhat realized (Frieza's defeat), he chose not to kill them, despite clearly possessing the ability to do so.
That being said, his anger would often instantly bring out his Chaotic Evil tendencies, as is evidenced when he found sport in viciously beating Goku.
Frieza: Probably started off as Neutral Evil and then slowly transitioned into Chaotic Evil after being backed into a corner - During the early days of his rule, he probably only went on a killing spree for the purpose of expanding his empire and/or suppressing opposition. He presumably preferred lounging around and watching his conquest flourish versus inconveniencing himself to get in a few extra irrelevant kills.
However, as he was forced to endure humility, his passion for recreational killing became more apparent. Despite having enough power to instantly obliterate every one of his opponents, he chose to slowly inflict excruciating pain upon them for the purpose of feeding his twisted desires. The act of individually killing Krillin was likely only to watch Goku suffer the mental anguish of watching his comrade brutally die.
Dr. Gero: Neutral Evil - Barring the atrocities committed by the Red Ribbon Army, Dr. Gero didn't seem to have too much interest in unnecessarily creating causalities. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm sure he reveled at the prospect of taking innocent lives, but his priorities seemed more in line with striking at the right moment versus going above and beyond to cause suffering.
Imperfect / Semi-Perfect Cell: Probably sat somewhere in between the boundaries of Neutral Evil and Chaotic Evil, but closer to the former - He was quite cunning and calculated in the sense that he played it safe and avoided encountering even the weaker Z-Fighters that he could have easily tortured for his own amusement. One could argue that taking the lives of millions of civilians was for the purpose of sheer enjoyment, but I feel he was merely seeking to supplement his power. After all, that's how he was designed right? Had there been no need to absorb additional energy, he probably would have cut to the chase, and gone straight for the androids. On the contrary, with the cells of Frieza partially fueling his existence, he probably would have had no issue causing unwarranted chaos once put in the right moment.
Perfect Cell: Neutral Evil / Chaotic Evil, but more prominently associated with the former - His desires to destroy Earth and kill the Z-Fighters seemed only secondary to his thirst for a good challenge. Had this not been the case, he presumably would not have given his enemies ten full days to prepare themselves.
Buu: Chaotic Evil - What more can I say about the vile menace whose sole existence revolves around wreaking havoc and senseless killing? Assuming we're talking strictly about Kid Buu, the guy is a killing machine who would take the life of another even if there was absolutely nothing in it for him. There is no waiting for the right moment for this ruthless villain, he simply kills for the purpose of killing and satisfying his insatiable obsession for destruction.
Super Buu was sort of the same way except he did display subtle tendencies of a Neutral Evil villain when he was willing to wait for his challenger to emerge.
Beerus: Neutral Evil - Because his responsibilities entail causing destruction, I'm not sure he would even be deemed as an evil character. Although he finds an exploding planet quite amusing, he doesn't go around blowing up planets for this reason. The delight that experiences when he sees one being reduced to a pile of rubble is a mere side effect of his job, not something that he chases.
Additionally, not only did he spare two individuals that he had originally intended on killing, he also formed an alliance with them for the sake of accomplishing a greater goal. Even after having that goal somewhat realized (Frieza's defeat), he chose not to kill them, despite clearly possessing the ability to do so.
That being said, his anger would often instantly bring out his Chaotic Evil tendencies, as is evidenced when he found sport in viciously beating Goku.
Frieza: Probably started off as Neutral Evil and then slowly transitioned into Chaotic Evil after being backed into a corner - During the early days of his rule, he probably only went on a killing spree for the purpose of expanding his empire and/or suppressing opposition. He presumably preferred lounging around and watching his conquest flourish versus inconveniencing himself to get in a few extra irrelevant kills.
However, as he was forced to endure humility, his passion for recreational killing became more apparent. Despite having enough power to instantly obliterate every one of his opponents, he chose to slowly inflict excruciating pain upon them for the purpose of feeding his twisted desires. The act of individually killing Krillin was likely only to watch Goku suffer the mental anguish of watching his comrade brutally die.
Dr. Gero: Neutral Evil - Barring the atrocities committed by the Red Ribbon Army, Dr. Gero didn't seem to have too much interest in unnecessarily creating causalities. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm sure he reveled at the prospect of taking innocent lives, but his priorities seemed more in line with striking at the right moment versus going above and beyond to cause suffering.
Imperfect / Semi-Perfect Cell: Probably sat somewhere in between the boundaries of Neutral Evil and Chaotic Evil, but closer to the former - He was quite cunning and calculated in the sense that he played it safe and avoided encountering even the weaker Z-Fighters that he could have easily tortured for his own amusement. One could argue that taking the lives of millions of civilians was for the purpose of sheer enjoyment, but I feel he was merely seeking to supplement his power. After all, that's how he was designed right? Had there been no need to absorb additional energy, he probably would have cut to the chase, and gone straight for the androids. On the contrary, with the cells of Frieza partially fueling his existence, he probably would have had no issue causing unwarranted chaos once put in the right moment.
Perfect Cell: Neutral Evil / Chaotic Evil, but more prominently associated with the former - His desires to destroy Earth and kill the Z-Fighters seemed only secondary to his thirst for a good challenge. Had this not been the case, he presumably would not have given his enemies ten full days to prepare themselves.
Buu: Chaotic Evil - What more can I say about the vile menace whose sole existence revolves around wreaking havoc and senseless killing? Assuming we're talking strictly about Kid Buu, the guy is a killing machine who would take the life of another even if there was absolutely nothing in it for him. There is no waiting for the right moment for this ruthless villain, he simply kills for the purpose of killing and satisfying his insatiable obsession for destruction.
Super Buu was sort of the same way except he did display subtle tendencies of a Neutral Evil villain when he was willing to wait for his challenger to emerge.
Beerus: Neutral Evil - Because his responsibilities entail causing destruction, I'm not sure he would even be deemed as an evil character. Although he finds an exploding planet quite amusing, he doesn't go around blowing up planets for this reason. The delight that experiences when he sees one being reduced to a pile of rubble is a mere side effect of his job, not something that he chases.
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Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Freeza is lawful evil since he had a well structured empire never just randomly blew up stuff
Buu is chaotic evil since randomly blowing stuff up is basically all he did.
Cell is neutral evil. He didn't care about ruling the universe like Freeza and sought perfection as opposed to pure destruction.
Beerus isn't evil at all. He's neutral neutral.
Buu is chaotic evil since randomly blowing stuff up is basically all he did.
Cell is neutral evil. He didn't care about ruling the universe like Freeza and sought perfection as opposed to pure destruction.
Beerus isn't evil at all. He's neutral neutral.
Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
I'd honestly say that Buu is the only Chaotic Evil character in Dragonball/Z.
Vegeta, Cell, Freeza, Piccolo etc all generally would rather rule the world/universe or want to prove they are #1, which means they're generally more Neutral Evil/Lawful Evil than Chaotic.
Possibly Freeza and Cell when denied want they want can fall into Chaotic tendancies, but it's more out of frustration/rage than anything else.
Vegeta, Cell, Freeza, Piccolo etc all generally would rather rule the world/universe or want to prove they are #1, which means they're generally more Neutral Evil/Lawful Evil than Chaotic.
Possibly Freeza and Cell when denied want they want can fall into Chaotic tendancies, but it's more out of frustration/rage than anything else.
Re: What type of evil do you consider the supervillains?
Vegeta [Earth/Namek]: Neutral Evil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralEvil
Vegeta was out for power. He was more than willing to step on the little guy on his way, but he appeared to be serving an evil lord (Freeza) while looking to overthrow Freeza. As one of the defining characteristics of the Neutral Evil archetype, he's willing to ally himself (if temporarily) with anyone who could potentially help him achieve his goal.
Freeza: Lawful Evil [As the overseer of his empire] / Chaotic Evil [As the foe of Goku, the Super Saiyan]
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulEvil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
Freeza initially maintained a gigantic empire with a system of rules and an order. That order was obviously evil, but it existed.
As the Namek arc progressed, Freeza visibly spiraled out of control, devolving from a system of hopping to one island to another seeking the Dragon Balls, to fighting his opponents directly, to eventually destroying the whole damn planet to kill one guy.
Imperfect / Semi-Perfect Cell: Lawful Evil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulEvil
He's working toward a single goal and his entire life revolves around that goal. It serves as his one rule, the one unbreakable law - to become perfect - that he'll do anything not to break it. He eats millions of people, sneak attacks Android #17, begs Vegeta to spare him, etc all to avoid having to abandon his goal.
Perfect / Super-Perfect Cell:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
After achieving perfection, Cell abandons his rule / code (as he's reached it), opting to focus on creating havoc and fear in the lives of those who follow order and good. His primary focus is to find or create an enemy who can give him a challenge, and he'll do it through manipulation and violence.
Majin Boo:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
The definition of Chaotic Evil. Just destroying Goodness and Order for no other reason than finding pleasure in it.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralEvil
Vegeta was out for power. He was more than willing to step on the little guy on his way, but he appeared to be serving an evil lord (Freeza) while looking to overthrow Freeza. As one of the defining characteristics of the Neutral Evil archetype, he's willing to ally himself (if temporarily) with anyone who could potentially help him achieve his goal.
Freeza: Lawful Evil [As the overseer of his empire] / Chaotic Evil [As the foe of Goku, the Super Saiyan]
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulEvil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
Freeza initially maintained a gigantic empire with a system of rules and an order. That order was obviously evil, but it existed.
As the Namek arc progressed, Freeza visibly spiraled out of control, devolving from a system of hopping to one island to another seeking the Dragon Balls, to fighting his opponents directly, to eventually destroying the whole damn planet to kill one guy.
Imperfect / Semi-Perfect Cell: Lawful Evil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulEvil
He's working toward a single goal and his entire life revolves around that goal. It serves as his one rule, the one unbreakable law - to become perfect - that he'll do anything not to break it. He eats millions of people, sneak attacks Android #17, begs Vegeta to spare him, etc all to avoid having to abandon his goal.
Perfect / Super-Perfect Cell:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
After achieving perfection, Cell abandons his rule / code (as he's reached it), opting to focus on creating havoc and fear in the lives of those who follow order and good. His primary focus is to find or create an enemy who can give him a challenge, and he'll do it through manipulation and violence.
Majin Boo:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticEvil
The definition of Chaotic Evil. Just destroying Goodness and Order for no other reason than finding pleasure in it.
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