Why is Broly so over-hyped?

[AvatarReiko]

I honestly don't get it. What was it about him why fans wank him so hard? He is essentially Saiyan version of super 13.

[EmmaWinters]

The first Broly movie is more seriously-toned which make it stand out in a lot of people's minds. FUNimation's replacement score was also a lot of kids' introduction to nu-metal/hard rock. A large part of it is nostalgia, but many fans just simply love "powerhouse" characters. His power is maximum, after all.

[rereboy]

Because he is, quite literally, the legendary Super Saiyan. All the saiyans reached ridiculous levels of power as the series went on but Broly is supposed to be, in potential, greater than any of them. So, obviously, it's rather easy to "wank" his power. As for why would the fans want to do that, well, even though Broly is just one-tone, the truth is that he is rather fun as a hulk-type adversary who just wants to wreck everything up.

[voltlunok]

Ok so I'm gonna try to explain without delving too deep into fan wanking myself.

First off, Broly pretty much represents the casual western or at least US perception of what Dragon Ball is to a T. He's got insane power, he's a brutal fighter, he has a MAXIMUM POWER TRANSFORMATION!!! That is why I think he's wanked so badly because he represents that skewed view of DEE BEE ZEE, fighting, powering up and being the strongest. Now a more personal reason to me is that there is a lot to actually discuss about Broly, specially taking into account some of the recent material. There is a very interesting discussion to be had about Broly's potential, his power, the concepts behind him. He's actually interesting if you can look past all the screaming and clotheslining the guy does.

It's implied that Broly has NEVER TRAINED (Sound familiar?!) and yet he's near SPC in terms of power in movie 8! That's....a lot of raw talent and power! Imagine if Broly trains or worse, if he can use LSSJ while calm, if he's able to rein his power in. I'm not gonna say "Oh if Broly trained he'd be the most powerful thing in Dragon Ball!" no, what I will say is if he did train or could, he'd probably shoot up pretty high, pretty quick but no one wants to talk about that! Ever! It's just...sad. Cause Broly's fans really have crippled any chances of a fun discussion about the guy by wanking him so hard (Even though I think the whole stigma about Broly fans is blown way out of proportion these days.)

Other things are that Movie 8 was so...different from the others. It had a much more serious tone, a rather interesting villain who is simultaneously so anti Toriyama while also being so Toriyama that the irony could kill a man! Looking past Broly's exterior shows some interesting stuff. In terms of inspiration and concepts, he really is the Nega-Goku. Goku got all the fun and cool stuff from Sun Wukong while Broly kinda got the shaft and got everything dark and cruel about Sun Wukong.

All in all I think that Broly is interesting and if people were open to it, could have a genuinely fun conversation about him but...like I said above, his fans have destroyed any chance of that because the mere mention of his name causes other fans to eyeroll and go "Oh...you like Broly? Begone you filthy casual. Come back when you start liking a more interesting character like Piccolo or Tenshinhan." aaaaand boy is that not getting old!

[Doctor.]

It's implied that Broly has NEVER TRAINED (Sound familiar?!)

It's implied he trained. He was born with 10,000.

[voltlunok]

It's implied that Broly has NEVER TRAINED (Sound familiar?!)

Of course it's implied. He was born with 10,000.

Yes, I know. There are other implications but yes that is definitely a big one.

[Doctor.]

Oops, I worded it wrongly. What I mean is that it's implied he trained since he was born with 10,000, which is relatively weak.

[Absolute Ice]

The video-games also help him in being wanked in levels beyond comprehension. The only flaw about Heroes is that, just look at what JM7 has brought upon us.

[voltlunok]

Oops, I worded it wrongly. What I mean is that it's implied he trained since he was born with 10,000, which is relatively weak.

Ah I see. Well derp on us both yeah? While I can see where you're coming from. The way Paragus talks, it sounds like Broly's power just kinda grew. He never really talks like Broly trained or that Paragus trained him. But I still think he has an absurd amount of untapped potential...both training and narratively but we're in the in universe thread so I'll just leave the narrative stuff out for now. :X

[Doctor.]

Oops, I worded it wrongly. What I mean is that it's implied he trained since he was born with 10,000, which is relatively weak.

Ah I see. Well derp on us both yeah? While I can see where you're coming from. The way Paragus talks, it sounds like Broly's power just kinda grew. He never really talks like Broly trained or that Paragus trained him. But I still think he has an absurd amount of untapped potential...both training and narratively but we're in the in universe thread so I'll just leave the narrative stuff out for now. :X

Well, it's possible his power just capped out at that point, even if it grew until adulthood.

[voltlunok]

Oops, I worded it wrongly. What I mean is that it's implied he trained since he was born with 10,000, which is relatively weak.

Ah I see. Well derp on us both yeah? While I can see where you're coming from. The way Paragus talks, it sounds like Broly's power just kinda grew. He never really talks like Broly trained or that Paragus trained him. But I still think he has an absurd amount of untapped potential...both training and narratively but we're in the in universe thread so I'll just leave the narrative stuff out for now. :X

Well, it's possible his power just capped out at that point, even if it grew until adulthood.

True true. I think overall he has untapped potential but with his mind the way it was and Paragus fearing his own son...risks weren't taken. Sadly though that's me jumping into speculation territory.

[rereboy]

Oops, I worded it wrongly. What I mean is that it's implied he trained since he was born with 10,000, which is relatively weak.

I think its rather obvious that his power just developed as his body developed and got older. It makes no sense for an adult to be as weak as a baby even if he never trained in his life.

[DBZAOTA482]

He's a powerhouse with a badass design. That's why.

[Hugo Boss]

It's implied that Broly has NEVER TRAINED (Sound familiar?!)

Yeah, I think this idea even fits Broly more than it fits Freeza, but then you would have to elaborate on why someone would revive him and if he would decide to train after all. At least there are plausible reasons to the revival of Freeza. It would be probably a better movie than 10 and 11, though.

[fadeddreams5]

I honestly don't get it. What was it about him why fans wank him so hard? He is essentially Saiyan version of super 13.

It's funny that LSSJ Broly is basically a palette swap of Super 13 with different hair. That, or evil USSJ Trunks (while he has no pupils during his transformation sequence).

But yeah, it's not so much his design (that's still part of it), but what he represents and is: the legendary super saiyan. Not only is he this, but his personality is unique among DBZ villains (first movie, anyways). He's mentally unstable, but conscious enough to enjoy watching the agony of others. Whereas someone like Kid Buu sees everything like a game due to his wild nature, Broly knows exactly what he's doing. He's pure satanic-level evil.

[Zelvin]

What most don't explore is that Brolly is actually more of a tragic character. A lot believe that going SSJ makes him insane. It's more accurate to say that the trauma he suffered when King Vegeta tried to have him killed, which forced his power to awaken much earlier than they perhaps should have, is what damaged his infant mind and drove him to insanity and why he just rampages for the enjoyment of it. If you look back in the anime, the flashbacks of Goku wth Granpa Gohan indicate that Goku was a wild and uncontrollable infant, always fighting and biting and was just mean for no apparent reason. It wasn't until Goku fell into a ravine and hit his head that he started behaving like a good boy.

Brolly, however, was a timid newborn who cried easily despite the sheer overwhelming power he was born with. You can immediately get the feeling that he could've perhaps been the first pure-hearted Saiyan born in millennia. Someone who had enormous power, but was gentle. You could even say that when Brolly was being suppressed by the control circlet, that his expression and demeanor was much like that of Android #16. He was just a gentle giant. Though the circlet was meant to keep his rage and power in check, and to keep him under Paragus' control, it may have given us a glimpse into what his personality may have been like had they not tried to kill him the day he was born. Just like how Goku's persona changed after bumping his head, Brolly's changed with being stabbed. He went from being timid and gentle, to overwhelmingly cruel and sadistic.

If Brolly had been sent to Earth by mistake, without being stabbed, it'd be no joke to say that he would've solved every crisis in a blink without effort. Or the world would've been destroyed in the 1st Full Moon. Or he could've inherently been able to control himself in oozaru form. There wouldn't have been anyone capable of stopping him. And he could subjugate pretty much every villain without effort, and have no need to kill anyone because they just aren't a threat to him. Even if Raditz appeared, Raditz would've fled immediately after reading Brolly's power. Vegeta and Nappa would completely abandon the planet, and more than likely there'd never be an expedition to Namek. Freeza would fail, the Namekians would be wiped out, and everything would just continue onward. Even under the idea of Brolly nuking the Red Ribbon Army as a kid and Gero planning Androids for the future, any version of Cell under these conditions would just end up being a much more toned down variant without the Cells of the other saiyans, or from Frost Demons like Freeza and King Cold. And there'd never be Future Trunks or time travel, because Brolly would just wipe the floor with the Androids easily. By the time Sub-Cell grew to maturity, he'd just be murdered by Brolly.

If you look at everything in this fashion, then Brolly just turns into an unstoppable hero who'd never experience any challenges until Beerus shows up. And by then there may not be any more Saiyans around to make SSG. I don't think Brolly would ever get together with ChiChi or Bulma.

[Scarlet Spider]

What most don't explore is that Brolly is actually more of a tragic character. A lot believe that going SSJ makes him insane. It's more accurate to say that the trauma he suffered when King Vegeta tried to have him killed, which forced his power to awaken much earlier than they perhaps should have, is what damaged his infant mind and drove him to insanity and why he just rampages for the enjoyment of it. If you look back in the anime, the flashbacks of Goku wth Granpa Gohan indicate that Goku was a wild and uncontrollable infant, always fighting and biting and was just mean for no apparent reason. It wasn't until Goku fell into a ravine and hit his head that he started behaving like a good boy.

Brolly, however, was a timid newborn who cried easily despite the sheer overwhelming power he was born with. You can immediately get the feeling that he could've perhaps been the first pure-hearted Saiyan born in millennia.Someone who had enormous power, but was gentle. You could even say that when Brolly was being suppressed by the control circlet, that his expression and demeanor was much like that of Android #16. He was just a gentle giant. Though the circlet was meant to keep his rage and power in check, and to keep him under Paragus' control, it may have given us a glimpse into what his personality may have been like had they not tried to kill him the day he was born. Just like how Goku's persona changed after bumping his head, Brolly's changed with being stabbed. He went from being timid and gentle, to overwhelmingly cruel and sadistic.

If Brolly had been sent to Earth by mistake, without being stabbed, it'd be no joke to say that he would've solved every crisis in a blink without effort. Or the world would've been destroyed in the 1st Full Moon. Or he could've inherently been able to control himself in oozaru form. There wouldn't have been anyone capable of stopping him. And he could subjugate pretty much every villain without effort, and have no need to kill anyone because they just aren't a threat to him. Even if Raditz appeared, Raditz would've fled immediately after reading Brolly's power. Vegeta and Nappa would completely abandon the planet, and more than likely there'd never be an expedition to Namek. Freeza would fail, the Namekians would be wiped out, and everything would just continue onward. Even under the idea of Brolly nuking the Red Ribbon Army as a kid and Gero planning Androids for the future, any version of Cell under these conditions would just end up being a much more toned down variant without the Cells of the other saiyans, or from Frost Demons like Freeza and King Cold. And there'd never be Future Trunks or time travel, because Brolly would just wipe the floor with the Androids easily. By the time Sub-Cell grew to maturity, he'd just be murdered by Brolly.

If you look at everything in this fashion, then Brolly just turns into an unstoppable hero who'd never experience any challenges until Beerus shows up. And by then there may not be any more Saiyans around to make SSG. I don't think Brolly would ever get together with ChiChi or Bulma.

I really like bolded. Never thought of it that way. Then there's always baby Goku not shutting up with his incessant wailing.

Spoiler:

I feel like he'd end up similar to Android 16 personality wise had he lived a somewhat average Saiyan life.

[Khin]

I think its because too many people claim that his power is infinite and it rises as the fight goes on and many people believe that and they think Broly is like the Hulk of DBZ.
Broly is one of my favorite characters when i was a kid but due to his fanboys especially on youtube,i really dont like him that much now.

[Doctor.]

But yeah, it's not so much his design (that's still part of it), but what he represents and is: the legendary super saiyan. Not only is he this, but his personality is unique among DBZ villains (first movie, anyways). He's mentally unstable, but conscious enough to enjoy watching the agony of others. Whereas someone like Kid Buu sees everything like a game due to his wild nature, Broly knows exactly what he's doing. He's pure satanic-level evil.

So, like Freeza, but mentally challenged and without the same charisma?

[rereboy]

I really like bolded. Never thought of it that way. Then there's always baby Goku not shutting up with his incessant wailing.

I always fail to see how people find it logical that Broly went mad/evil because Goku cried, and not from his overwhelming power like it was showed in the flashbacks where he takes his father's eye out.