Does Super really have more plotholes than all of DBGT?

[vegeta623i]

I was on youtube the other day and I came across a review of the recent episode of dragon ball super(episode 22) and the guy doing the review was complaining about the many plotholes this episode had(which I didn't agree with) and he said that he noticed that dbs has had more plotholes than all 64 episodes of GT I wanted to know is this true?

[successoroffate]

I was on youtube the other day and I came across a review of the recent episode of dragon ball super(episode 22) and the guy doing the review was complaining about the many plotholes this episode had(which I didn't agree with) and he said that he noticed that dbs has had more plotholes than all 64 episodes of GT I wanted to know is this true?

Youtubers are not a reliable source for any type of discussion. They're (most of them) liars and clickbait masters.

Regarding Plotholes...Well, Super does have its plotholes, just like GT does. I think all the plotholes are minor. It shouldn't be something stopping you from loving or watching the show.

[VegettoEX]

If "plotholes" is a reason to dismiss something, the original manga must be dismissed due to its various plotholes (and by "plotholes" I don't mean "I disagree with this power/strength comparison statement").

Many of the things people describe as plotholes are simply story elements they personally don't like, or don't have the creativity to work around and understand. It's a word that's lost all meaning in general fandom critical analysis.

If you haven't noticed them, or they don't bother you, then there is no problem here!

[Eire]

It's hard to argue without examples.

[LuckyCat]

Very often one will reach out to find "plot holes" in media one doesn't enjoy. On the other hand, if you enjoy something, you're more willing to forgive the same issues and dismiss them as minor. I think it has to do with the suspension of disbelief, but like Eire said it's hard to analyze what's going on without examples.

[Eire]

When one is bored, he starts to complain. When the series is entertaining or emotionally moving you can forgive a lot, but when you don't like something every flaw looks like a giant mistake. Case in point: Hunger Games- author clearly doesn't know how totalitarian regime works, but hey, it's soooo moving when Katniss volunteer.

I've also noticed that the less author try, the more people tend to forgive. Dragon Ball is fun, fight and slapstick, so it has to be big black plot hole that would make me to complain. Death Note on the other hand tries to pass poor man's Raskolnikov as legimate drama and I desperately wanted to forget that I gave it a chance.

[Hellspawn28]

The real reason why Freeza men are so strong because of training. The only real plot in the ROF saga so far IMO is why Gohan became so weak in such a little amount of time. Gohan likely stop training after Buu, but still had his mystic form in Movie 13 and BOG.

[DBZAOTA482]

No, but it's setting itself up there.

[Doctor.]

There's no proper definition of a plot hole to make this a legitimate argument. You can give a vague enough definition where every contradiction counts as a plot hole, or you can narrow it down enough where nothing is.

[fadeddreams5]

It has less to do with plot holes, and more to do with absolutely lazy writing, nonsensical plot points (within context of series), and lack of creativity. Well, mostly in RF and its arc.

Inb4 DBZ was the same...

[Doctor.]

Inb4 DBZ was the same...

You're a psychic.

[Lord Beerus]

I haven't noticed any major plot holes in Super so far. Some inconsistencies with strength, perhaps, but no plot holes.

[Zephyr]

Inb4 DBZ was the same...

You're a couple hours late on that, actually.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Inb4 DBZ was the same...

You're a couple hours late on that, actually.

Not to mention that, loathe as one might be to admit, Dragon Ball/Z does have plenty of plotholes and lazy writing of it's own, and we still love it for what it is.

[Soppa Saia People]

I was on youtube the other day and I came across a review of the recent episode of dragon ball super(episode 22) and the guy doing the review was complaining about the many plotholes this episode had(which I didn't agree with) and he said that he noticed that dbs has had more plotholes than all 64 episodes of GT I wanted to know is this true?

Who was the reviewer ?

[superrayman3]

The only real "plot hole" I can think of that Z has (if it can even be considered a plot hole at all) is Dr Gero since he never appears or is even mentioned in the original DB portion of the manga or anime at all, and yet Goku knows who he is when trunks says his name despite never meeting him to the best of our knowledge, but that's a minor plot hole at best and not enough to ruin the story.

[MozillaVulpix]

It might, for all I know. I don't purposely pay attention to them. Z had plenty of things that seemed like plot holes, but were retroactively explained later on.

But I think that, because we have the movies to compare it to, and how it's still in familiar territory, plot holes are easier to spot. GT had all new characters and new villains and new powerups. You could come up with any explanation you liked for things like Rild or Baby or SSJ4.

GT doesn't actually have THAT many plot holes. But plot holes isn't the sole reason why GT isn't well-received.

[Gaffer Tape]

The only real "plot hole" I can think of that Z has (if it can even be considered a plot hole at all) is Dr Gero since he never appears or is even mentioned in the original DB portion of the manga or anime at all, and yet Goku knows who he is when trunks says his name despite never meeting him to the best of our knowledge, but that's a minor plot hole at best and not enough to ruin the story.

It's never implied Goku knows who Dr. Gero is.

[Gyt Kaliba]

The only real "plot hole" I can think of that Z has (if it can even be considered a plot hole at all) is Dr Gero since he never appears or is even mentioned in the original DB portion of the manga or anime at all, and yet Goku knows who he is when trunks says his name despite never meeting him to the best of our knowledge, but that's a minor plot hole at best and not enough to ruin the story.

It's never implied Goku knows who Dr. Gero is.

As best as I can remember, Goku actually seemed curious as to who that was for the split second before Trunks finished explaining. The only thing Goku recalled was the Red Ribbon Army.

[FortuneSSJ]

Define Ploholes.
Lately, I've seen a lot of people using that term like: I don't like this = plothole.

There are no plotholes so far.
You can argue Goten/Trunks/Marron not freaking grow up is plothole, but that's subjective. Since we have no confirmation that they still care about EOZ, and that Super is happening much sooner than the Movies, timeframe wise.