I don't understand why Toriyama doesn't let the girls fight

[precita]

...beyond a small handful of scenes.

Many shonen shows have female fighters. 18 being regulated to a mother after the Cell arc has always been one of the greatest mistakes with the character. Its why I was hoping for a time skip with an older Pan and Bra as the new "Goten and Trunks" and being young Saiyan fighters, but I doubt that will ever happen at this point.

[omaro34]

There's currently a female character in Vados who is arguably the strongest person in the series thus far if you think about it. She is stated to be a little stronger than Whis, and we all know those two can man handle Beerus or Champa.

[Soppa Saia People]

Dude Arale fought a lot in Dr. Slump, granted they were squashes but still. Not to mention she's the strongest character until like Vegeta.

[DBZAOTA482]

Toriyama mentioned in an interview that females were hard for him to draw. That could be why.

[Chuquita]

Arale returning as a member of Team Beerus would've been fun. I enjoyed how Arale and Gokû interacted.

I am sad about 18's lack of involvement, arguably more sad about Videl's personality alterations.

[MozillaVulpix]

On the one hand, it's really frustrating how few female fighters are.

On the other hand, I'd rather have that than have a bunch of bland, one-dimensional female fighters who are only there to show off their boobs and how useless they are without a man.

Dragon Ball may not be the best in terms of their female characters, but at least it didn't resort to that.

[Cipher]

This is one of the things that bothers me most about Super. #18 and Videl have really been shortchanged, and with them a lot of the series strong female presence.

I know Toriyama can do better, because of Dr. Slump's being bold enough to feature a female protagonist and a number of strong female secondary characters, even with its typical pervert-gag humor (time and culture), and Dragon Ball generally having a pretty good track record with its female cast, at least until the recent material.

Vados is the star of hope right now -- but she's also an inhuman sociopath at best.

[Gorou]

Vados, for me, it could also be the main villain of the saga

[omaro34]

Arale returning as a member of Team Beerus would've been fun. I enjoyed how Arale and Gokû interacted.

I am sad about 18's lack of involvement, arguably more sad about Videl's personality alterations.

I concur. 18 was one of the strongest fighters on earth minus the Saiyans in the ROF Arc. Her not going to the battlefield and weaker characters such as her husband Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi being there didn't make much sense to me.

Videl's personality definitely changed from Z to Super. In the original English Dub in the Great Saiyaman saga she was portrayed as this girl who was a badass, protected the innocent, and had a lot of pride and confidence in her skill as a fighter. In Super, she's just this loving mother in the background.

[Khin]

I concur. 18 was one of the strongest fighters on earth minus the Saiyans in the ROF Arc. Her not going to the battlefield and weaker characters such as her husband Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi being there didn't make much sense to me.

Videl's personality definitely changed from Z to Super. In the original English Dub in the Great Saiyaman saga she was portrayed as this girl who was a badass,protected the innocent, and had a lot of pride and confidence in her skill as a fighter. In Super, she's just this loving mother in the background.

Videl already been acting soft ever since she knew that Gohan was really the one who killed Cell and not Satan.

[Lord Beerus]

Toriyama, by his own admission, can't write female characters beyond the "strong willed" type.

The women I draw all have the same sort of personality. I can’t draw gentle girls; I only know how to draw ones who are strong-willed.

[precita]

So then what's the problem? All 4 of the lead females (Bulma, Chi Chi, Videl and 18) were strong-willed. I mean whoever wrote Super made Videl demure and motherly but she's not supposed to be like that.

Also I don't see why people are bringing up Vados. Sure she's most likely one of the most powerful characters in the franchise, but she's probably not going to do any fighter (even Whis barely fights beyond training Goku/Vegeta), and I doubt she'll do much beyond the next arc.

[Cipher]

Toriyama, by his own admission, can't write female characters beyond the "strong willed" type.

The women I draw all have the same sort of personality. I can’t draw gentle girls; I only know how to draw ones who are strong-willed.

Which is great. We're not really seeing them in Super though.

[Khin]

We have Freeza.Who's arc just ended.So yes,we have a woman who fought.

Spoiler:

Jokes aside.Bulma is no fighter.Chi Chi,Videl and 18 already fought before,and they're really weaklings at this point.18 got a chance in ROF,but as Kuririn said,no one could look out for Maron.So it won't be surprising if we didn't saw them fought.

[Cipher]

#18 could've shown up in the fight against Freeza's men. Gohan and Videl could be doing a bit of co-superheroing, which was the greatest thing about them in the Boo arc. There could be a female fighter among the contestants in the God of Destruction tournament (and frankly I'm shocked there isn't one).

There's nothing preventing these things from happening. Bulma's at least been active lately, which is nice.

[Khin]

Seriously though.Why do fans tend to request girl fighters so badly ? Not too long ago,many people are disappointed by how Cabba doesn't end up being a woman.And we didn't see any female SSj.

[Cipher]

Seriously though.Why do fans tend to request girl fighters so badly ? Not too long ago,many people are disappointed by how Cabba doesn't end up being a woman.And we didn't see any female SSj.

Because the series has plenty of appeal across genders, and it's a shame to not see that represented in the cast, and it's made a bit more frustrating by seeing some of the stronger women in the cast shift into demure background roles.

That, and it's just nice to see any series, especially a popular children's action series, be a bit more inclusive. Girls historically haven't gotten many action-capable role models in series aimed at the shonen demographic, but Dragon Ball's in a perfect place to buck that trend, if it wants. Fighters' strength being decided by magic and ki is pretty god damn egalitarian.

[WittyUsername]

I honestly think the biggest offender of not allowing women to fight in the series came in the form of 18 staying behind to look after Marron, while Kuririn went off to fight Freeza's goons. Considering that 18 is a lot stronger than her husband, wouldn't it make more sense for her to go and fight Freeza, while Kuririn stayed behind to look after Marron? Aside from that, there's also the fact that none of the fighters in the current tournament arc are female.

Granted, Vados is a bit of a step in the right direction, but we're probably never going to see her take part in an actual fight. Plus, she also comes off as a bit of a jerk compared to her brother.

[precita]

We really need to see a Pan and Bra fighter combo. It was really bizarre in GT that Bra wasn't a fighter when she had Saiyan gens. They really missed some opportunities there.

[Khin]

I honestly think the biggest offender of not allowing women to fight in the series came in the form of 18 staying behind to look after Marron, while Kuririn went off to fight Freeza's goons. Considering that 18 is a lot stronger than her husband, wouldn't it make more sense for her to go and fight Freeza, while Kuririn stayed behind to look after Marron? Aside from that, there's also the fact that none of the fighters in the current tournament arc are female.

Granted, Vados is a bit of a step in the right direction, but we're probably never going to see her take part in an actual fight. Plus, she also comes off as a bit of a jerk compared to her brother.

Kuririn just come out of retirement.It's the perfect opportunity for him to fight again.So he can't leave the chance.And it's not like Freeza's mooks are strong anyway so it doesn't matter if 18 is way stronger than Kuririn because Kuririn alone can solo them all.