Why does nobody hate on Piccolo for dying?

[floofychan333]

Piccolo died twice in DBZ and I think he died in Super, so he's died as many times as Krillin. So why doesn't anyone hate on Piccolo for dying so much? I mean, I like Piccolo, but I think fans are unfairly biased towards him in this case.
Note: I'm not counting future timeline deaths or GT deaths.

[Iberian_Saiyan]

Piccolo died for a greater cause not in vain or anything. Kuririn's death during the Freeza arc unleashed the Super Saiyan within Son but the rest was.. meh.

[apex_pretador]

what a thread? you are asking why no one is hating piccolo?

It is up to opinion of the fans. They can like or hate anyone. Not because of "dying".

Also, because this thread is about piccolo:

[Hellspawn28]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

[gaberparadiso]

The real question is: why does nobody hate on Chiaotzu for being completely useless?
At least, Piccolo sacrificed himself to save Gohan from Nappa's attack, while Krillin's death by Frieza allowed Goku to become a SSJ, so his death was necessary for something important.
On the other hand, Chiaotzu died less times than Krillin, but anything he did was completely pointless: he tried to prevent Piccolo Daimao to express his wish and gets himself killed, he got his arse kicked by Cyborg Tao, who was far weaker than the other Z-Fighters, he tried to blow himself up to kill Nappa, but to no avail.
I mean, Yajirobe was far more useful than him: if he hadn't cut off Vegeta's tail, Goku and the others would have been killed by him.
And for that matter, even Puar is more useful than Chiaotzu: he's not even a side character, but at least he transformed into a pair of scissors to slice off Oozaru Goku's tail, otherwise each of them would have been dead.

[Wezenheim]

If it is any consolation, I think the Kuririn death memes are incredibly stupid.

[Cipher]

The real question is: Why does no one hate on Lunch for having blue hair?

[gaberparadiso]

Another legitimate question is: Why are earthlings surprised to see a SSJ, and are totally ok to be ruled by a DOG?

[Kuririn Fan]

Chiaotzu died 3 times, just like Kuririn and Piccolo.
Both Goku and Vegeta died 2 times.
Everyone at least once.
Unless you're Mr Satan.

[Hellspawn28]

Another legitimate question is: Why are earthlings surprised to see a SSJ, and are totally ok to be ruled by a DOG?

In the Dragon Ball world, superhumans and aliens are common knowledge to them. I guess people are not use too seeing people's hair change from normal to yellow so quick.

[gaberparadiso]

BTW, Mr. Satan isn't an useless character: he threw 16's head to the battlefield, and scolded humans for not raising their hands for the Super Genkidama.
Besides, he never died, if we exclude ROF saga, in which Frieza destroyed Earth.

[Kuririn Fan]

BTW, Mr. Satan isn't an useless character: he threw 16's head to the battlefield, and scolded humans for not raising their hands for the Super Genkidama.
Besides, he never died, if we exclude ROF saga, in which Frieza destroyed Earth.

Who said that he's useless? He redeemed himself in the Boo arc and became likeable bastard.

[TheMikado]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

It seems way more fitting. I'm sure Piccolo still has certain feelings of atonement and probably would really enjoy spending eternity dealing out justice. I imagine he would get pretty bored anywhere else in the afterlife except for maybe working with Yama, which he technically is doing but on a higher management scale.

[Kuririn Fan]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

It seems way more fitting. I'm sure Piccolo still has certain feelings of atonement and probably would really enjoy spending eternity dealing out justice. I imagine he would get pretty bored anywhere else in the afterlife except for maybe working with Yama, which he technically is doing but on a higher management scale.

It's still depressing and not Dragon Ball.

[dbzfan7]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

It seems way more fitting. I'm sure Piccolo still has certain feelings of atonement and probably would really enjoy spending eternity dealing out justice. I imagine he would get pretty bored anywhere else in the afterlife except for maybe working with Yama, which he technically is doing but on a higher management scale.

Agreed. Piccolo in heaven would be bored out of his mind. Him being in hell is perfect. Being the guy to keep hell in check is great. Having him "die" and have absolutely no real affect on anything is much worse. He could have not died in Super, and not a god damn thing would be different.

Though people shit on Krillin because people look down on those who aren't macho or stare in the face of fear like a badass. Krillin is realistic. He isn't strong, and he has a right to be afraid. He's far more relatable. It's also linked to child characters too. If you're scared but still despite that stick around, or fight for what's right, you're still a pussy for some reason because you're scared, unlike the macho hero. It's really annoying. Having fear is considered weakness. I think overcoming fear is much better than just charging in and then going out.

[DBZAOTA482]

The real question is: why does nobody hate on Chiaotzu for being completely useless?

They do... it's just no one gives a shit about Chiaotzu.

Anyways, Piccolo is too swag to be made fun of.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

I agree, that always bothered me.

[TheMikado]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

I agree, that always bothered me.

Well like I said before he would be much happier there dealing out justice to bad guys. More importantly his death as a means of destroying the black star Dragonballs tied into the overarching theme in GT about abusing them. In Themis scenario the "worse" case happened. Emperor Pilaf a bad guy got his hands on them. The final arc is all about misusing that power. In that sense piccolo dying for that reason was a bit of foreshadowing and was a great theme for the final chapter and end cap for the entire series which started out with seeking for these things in the first place.

[lancerman]

I didn't like Piccolo's death in Super and GT. At least in Super, he was wish back and got a chance to become stronger again. In GT, they used him as a plot device to get Goku out of Hell and had Piccolo stay in Hell forever. Having Piccolo in live in Hell forever is a bad way to end his legacy in my opinion.

I agree, that always bothered me.

Well like I said before he would be much happier there dealing out justice to bad guys. More importantly his death as a means of destroying the black star Dragonballs tied into the overarching theme in GT about abusing them. In Themis scenario the "worse" case happened. Emperor Pilaf a bad guy got his hands on them. The final arc is all about misusing that power. In that sense piccolo dying for that reason was a bit of foreshadowing and was a great theme for the final chapter and end cap for the entire series which started out with seeking for these things in the first place.

I kind of liked the symbolism of the son of the Demon King becoming the man to rule over and deal justice in Hell. It's fitting.

Anyways to answer the thread's questions, it's because Piccolo had active deaths. He chose to save Gohan. He was actually helping in the fight with Buu and got up in a planet destroying attack.

Kuririn was helplessly lifted by Freeza and blown up like a none factor. Then he was turned into candy and eaten by Boo. That's a far cry from Piccolo.

[apex_pretador]

Chiaotzu died 3 times, just like Kuririn and Piccolo.
Both Goku and Vegeta died 2 times.
Everyone at least once.
Unless you're Mr Satan.

Chiaotzu died 4 times:

- Piccolo
- Suicide
- Kid Buu
- Freeza

Also, freeza killed satan.