Goten

[SquadronGOD]

So why exactly does everybody assume that goten was conceived in the 10 day wait up til the Cell Games?

[Lunatic Fringe]

The birth would've had to have happened when Present Trunks was about a year old, meaning the conceiving couldn't have happened during the three year wait for Gero and his creations except for the final year. Once Goku recovered, he immediately went to train in the RoSaT with Gohan and as you say, had ten days of down time before the Cell Games. That's the only window of opportunity for Goten to be conceived before Goku dies to Cell had it not happened during the final year of the three year wait.

[SquadronGOD]

Ok. So is it totally insane to think that he could have been conceived in late 766?

He was born in 767, correct?

[Nejishiki]

Correct, that is his birth year and circumstances prevented Goten's birth in the main timeline.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Ok. So is it totally insane to think that he could have been conceived in late 766?

He was born in 767, correct?

Considering that the final year of the three year wait fits between late 766 and mid 767, no, I wouldn't find it insane.

[SquadronGOD]

Is it more likely that he's conceived in late 766 or born prematurely at the end of 767?

[Lunatic Fringe]

Is it more likely that he's conceived in late 766 or born prematurely at the end of 767?

The premature birth, actually. I forgot about this but the Cyborgs appear in May 767. For Goten to be conceived in late 766, wouldn't Chi-Chi have shown signs of pregnancy by the time the three years are up?

[SquadronGOD]

Some girls show fast. Most don't really have a noticeably larger stomach until about 5 or 6 months though. My girlfriend doesn't at least. Haha

[Lunatic Fringe]

Some girls show fast. Most don't really have a noticeably larger stomach until about 5 or 6 months though. My girlfriend doesn't at least. Haha

Let's say that "late 766" means December 31, 766. Gero and #19 show up on May 12, 767. That's 5 months and that's only if it happened on 12/31/766. She'd definitely show signs of pregnancy by then. I think the premature birth holds more weight between both situations now that I think about that.

[SquadronGOD]

True. Goku knew he couldn't defeat Cell. Do you think he probably knew he was gonna die?

[manwolf]

The question is a saiyans pregnancy last the same as a human pregnancy. If is this the case then we have two options, a seventh moth pregnancy for Goten or that Goten are conceived before the android saga, this make sense cause Goten can be conceived before the android saga and born in Late 767 with a normal pregnancy, the thing is in the future Goten are not conceived but killed in the womb, or by some reason the death of Goku provokes that Goten doesn't born.

So if Saiyans have less that seven moth pregnancy Goten can be conceived in cell saga but if is a normal pregnancy then Goten needs to be conceived before the androids saga.

[DBZAOTA482]

Goten was a Super Saiyan sperm so he was born MUCH faster than the average baby.

[ekrolo2]

Goten was probably born faster. This is the same species that's so designed for combat they stay in their prime into their 80s and gain strength from near death experiences. It stands to reason that, due to their lower numbers, they'd probably give birth faster to compensate for said lower numbers.

[SquadronGOD]

Yes, but apes stay pregnant for as long as humans do.

[Cipher]

There's actually no reason he couldn't be fathered shortly before the androids arrive. Goku contracts his virus and dies two years before that in Trunks' timeline, so that would already explain why he isn't around there. And the entire android/Cell arc takes place in around two weeks.

Re: the extremely odd conversation taking place above: Chi-chi's body would determine the rate of Goten's development. A baby's DNA doesn't change the way its mother's body operates.

[manwolf]

In TV special Goku dies in November, so it is make sense that with the death of Goku, Goten cannot be conceived in the future if his birth is between september and December of 767.

The thing is that Goten have six years old and not seven in the tournament cause he born in after May and the tournament is in May.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Goten was a Super Saiyan sperm so he was born MUCH faster than the average baby.

What? Why are you ruining Pans achievement as a SSF (Super Saiyan Fetus) by placing Goten as SSS? Hahahaha

[TheDevilsCorpse]

There's actually no reason he couldn't be fathered shortly before the androids arrive. Goku contracts his virus and dies two years before that in Trunks' timeline, so that would already explain why he isn't around there. And the entire android/Cell arc takes place in around two weeks.

Goten is 7 at the Tenkaichi Budokai of the Buu Arc, which takes place May 7th, AGE 774. For all intents and purposes, Goten SHOULD have been born before the Robits ever even showed up May 12th, AGE 767.