So the ending of Z

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So the ending of Z

Post by Kishido » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:59 pm

How do you think to lit will be rewritten? Will they change some dialogue or what do you think they plan.

They easily can still make Goku train Uub without mentioning him being da strongest or something.

Or do you think they will competely scrap it.

Or maybe an alternate theory... What if all this god powers they now have will be forgotten for the sake of humanity.

What I mean is that it is not normal that a mortal has this godlike ki and all this. What if Omni King or whoever will let the cast forget everything and they never met Beerus and Co?

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Avok » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:07 pm

They can tweak a few lines, but I hope they left it as it is. That ending was perfect on it's own.
But it makes me wonder: If they leave it as it is, how in the hell are they going to make new series and movies in the future? They'll go further? Makes you think...

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:11 pm

Avok wrote:They can tweak a few lines, but I hope they left it as it is. That ending was perfect on it's own.
But it makes me wonder: If they leave it as it is, how in the hell are they going to make new series and movies in the future? They'll go further? Makes you think...
Toriyama has overcome this so many times and just simply writes stuff.

Besides, as long as Super makes merchandise (which it does), it will go as long as Super makes money.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:21 pm

They'll probably redesign some of the characters. Goten and Trunks look way too tall.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:30 pm

Avok wrote:They can tweak a few lines, but I hope they left it as it is. That ending was perfect on it's own.
But it makes me wonder: If they leave it as it is, how in the hell are they going to make new series and movies in the future? They'll go further? Makes you think...

I think it was a weak ending. However the narrator said there was many more battles after goku left..... so really....just do that. Have them do more fights like GT did.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by LightBing » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:31 pm

I hope they rewrite it. The ending is abrupt and there's way too many new elements to factor in. The only thing I hope they maintain is Oob's introduction and Pan kicking some ass.
Goku abandoning his family in the middle of the tournament is awful. He has the Shunkan Ido... I didn't particularly liked that part.

With the 12 Universes, Super has the potential for a bunch of story's. I'm not in a rush to get there. Although I don't wanna be stuck in the lost decade forever.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:33 pm

I don't keep up with Super much, but I thought I read that Goku already told Vegeta about Uub, which completely contradicts Z.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Kishido » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:48 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I don't keep up with Super much, but I thought I read that Goku already told Vegeta about Uub, which completely contradicts Z.
Well if Goku leaves out this quote about Uub it can still exist and he can train Uub.

Problem is how Uub can still even become close to the god level.

And as bad as GT was I still actually liked the concept of Super Saiyan 4 far more than this boring colored swaps.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:07 pm

Kishido wrote: Problem is how Uub can still even become close to the god level.
By training. Worked for Vegeta and Frieza.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Kishido » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:11 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Kishido wrote: Problem is how Uub can still even become close to the god level.
By training. Worked for Vegeta and Frieza.
Well true that but why should Goku see him God level potential while he gives no damn about Fat Buu.

But most likely you are right... Even if I still like the idea of them getting rid of their god powers. It is just too much in my eyes

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Kishido wrote:
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Kishido wrote: Problem is how Uub can still even become close to the god level.
By training. Worked for Vegeta and Frieza.
Well true that but why should Goku see him God level potential while he gives no damn about Fat Buu.

But most likely you are right... Even if I still like the idea of them getting rid of their god powers. It is just too much in my eyes
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:27 pm

I don't think much of anything will be changed from EOZ. I mean, Oob and Pan have already booked their place in the ending. The only anomaly left is Bra, who continues to seemingly not exist. And time-frame for which she has to mentioned to have her age work with the end of Z is passing by.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:00 pm

Slap the the GT ending on to it.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Quantum-Kakarrotto » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:16 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Slap the the GT ending on to it.
That is the one thing I love about GT, the ending to the series just felt more, complete to me than the original ending. That being said, I hope Super actually goes passed the Z ending somehow so we can see the future battles with Goku and Uub.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by sintzu » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:32 am

I think Super will end like both versions of the manga but the ending will take into account the new stories that happened up to that point.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by perucho1990 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:58 am

Couldnt they just explain it happened in one of the timelines created by Black/Cell/Trunks?

IMO it would be the most logical explanation.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by simtek34 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:11 am

A few months ago I was thinking about the losing god powers idea my self. But that forgetful Toryama has to remember a certain somebody sooner or later.

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Or should Toryama rewrite the manga ending for the 2nd time?

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Xeztin » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:17 am

It probably wont have an EoZ and if it ends it'll be entirely different, EoS.

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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Alruneia » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:05 pm

simtek34 wrote:A few months ago I was thinking about the losing god powers idea my self. But that forgetful Toryama has to remember a certain somebody sooner or later.
Have a better picture:

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The whole Bulla thing is a bit of a mess in Super, honestly. I think she's the key to connecting Super and EoZ, though. If she keeps not appearing, then there probably won't be a bridge between Super and EoZ, and they'll either never go there or overwrite it with something else. If she does, and I hope she does to an unreasonable degree, it'll show that they intend for this thing to work out with the rest of the series. They'll find a way.
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Re: So the ending of Z

Post by Rubens » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:54 pm

I also believe that the end of Z might remain sort of the same, with a few tweaks since Super already contradicts a few things (I think in the Z manga Bulma hadn't seen Goku for 5 years, something like that - Pan has already born and she's suppose to be 4 by then), and also because Oob was already made refence. I also hope Bra/Bulla is born :|
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