Why are new games ignoring base Teen Gohan?

[DBZAOTA482]

I understand why Spike games would do it since transformations were treated like different characters with their own set of moves but even Dimps is doing it now with Xenoverse and it's just weird even though transformations were always just there to boost stats and even in the case of Budokai, gain access to certain moves.

Why is this happening?

[Viewtiful Jess]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

[ArchedThunder]

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

[Shin]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Well by this logic, shouldn't Base Adolescent (Adult) Gohan not be in the games either? He didn't fight or do anything substantial.

[ArchedThunder]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Well by this logic, shouldn't Base Adolescent (Adult) Gohan not be in the games either? He didn't fight or do anything substantial.

He still had substantially more screen time though. For the Cell arc Super Saiyan WAS Gohan's base form.

[Lord Beerus]

What the point? As ArchedThunder and Viewtiful Jess have pointed out, the character, well that form of the character specifically, doesn't do much.

[Anime Kitten]

Absolutely no logical reason that us as fans can uncover and conclude.

If he didn't have any fights, then why not exclude Base Androids Saga Vegeta or Base Resurrection 'F' Vegeta?

[ArchedThunder]

Absolutely no logical reason that us as fans can uncover and conclude.

If he didn't have any fights, then why not exclude Base Androids Saga Vegeta or Base Resurrection 'F' Vegeta?

Like I said, for the Cell arc Gohan's base form really is his Super Saiyan form. We never see Gohan transform into the form into Super Saiyan as "Teen Gohan" in the arc, he's already Super Saiyan when he shows up as "Teen Gohan" and we only see him fall out of Super Saiyan after the villain is defeated.

[Shin]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Well by this logic, shouldn't Base Adolescent (Adult) Gohan not be in the games either? He didn't fight or do anything substantial.

He still had substantially more screen time though. For the Cell arc Super Saiyan WAS Gohan's base form.

But What Was Done Is The Question.

I also don't find it necessary to have a base form for Cell arc Gohan in the games, but we shouldn't ignore the double standard between the two. Only thing Cell arc Gohan did in his base form that was in important I guess was... wear a nice suit at he end. Base Teen Gohan only went to high school and acted like a complete nerd lol.

[Viewtiful Jess]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Well by this logic, shouldn't Base Adolescent (Adult) Gohan not be in the games either? He didn't fight or do anything substantial.

Base Great Saiyaman - Super Gohan still did more than Adolescent Gohan.
He does all of his school stuff in his base.
Trains Videl in his base (for the most part).
He fights in the tournament in his base, minus saving Videl and fighting Kibito.
Shows up to Babidi's and remains in his base til Dabura.
Z-Sword in Base.
Ultimate Gohan is essentially his powered up Base form.

Adolescent Gohan passed out at the end of Cell, said goodbye to Trunks and was in 1/3rd of Bojack Unbound. It's kinda self explanatory!

[Anime Kitten]

Screentime = importance?
Let's just put Bulma in then. And Adult Chi-Chi. And all those characters who got screentime but aren't fighters.

[Shin]

I think it's because with Ultimate Tenkaichi forward they discovered Base Adolescent Gohan is not a necessary character. He appears for only a few moments after the Cell Games, and Bojack Unbound, so why even put it in when he is shown in Super Saiyan more often?

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Well by this logic, shouldn't Base Adolescent (Adult) Gohan not be in the games either? He didn't fight or do anything substantial.

Base Great Saiyaman - Super Gohan still did more than Adolescent Gohan.
He does all of his school stuff in his base.
Trains Videl in his base (for the most part).
He fights in the tournament in his base, minus saving Videl and fighting Kibito.
Shows up to Babidi's and remains in his base til Dabura.
Z-Sword in Base.
Ultimate Gohan is essentially his powered up Base form.

Adolescent Gohan passed out at the end of Cell, said goodbye to Trunks and was in 1/3rd of Bojack Unbound. It's kinda self explanatory!

School stuff is just as important as being passed out, let's be real here. Gohan didn't fight in the tournament in his base form, he transformed into SSJ2 and got jobbed drained!

If we're gonna use amount of screen time to be a determining factor, we might as well put in the World Tournament Announcer in the games too since he trumps both base Gohans' amount of time.

[ArchedThunder]

Screentime = importance?
Let's just put Bulma in then. And Adult Chi-Chi. And all those characters who got screentime but aren't fighters.

For all intents and purposes Teen Gohan's base form in the Cell arc WAS Super Saiyan. The comparison to characters like Bulma and ChiChi makes no sense.

[Viewtiful Jess]

School stuff is just as important as being passed out, let's be real here. Gohan didn't fight in the tournament in his base form, he transformed into SSJ2 and got jobbed drained!

If we're gonna use amount of screen time to be a determining factor, we might as well put in the World Tournament Announcer in the games too since he trumps both base Gohans' amount of time.

Screentime isn't a determining factor. It's logic. Pseudo Super Saiyan has never been in the games, and now Base Adolescent Gohan isnt. It's not really a big deal.

Also, I'd love Bulma and Chi Chi in the games!

Also also WT Announcer is in the games!

[Shin]

School stuff is just as important as being passed out, let's be real here. Gohan didn't fight in the tournament in his base form, he transformed into SSJ2 and got jobbed drained!

If we're gonna use amount of screen time to be a determining factor, we might as well put in the World Tournament Announcer in the games too since he trumps both base Gohans' amount of time.

Screentime isn't a determining factor. It's logic. Pseudo Super Saiyan has never been in the games, and now Base Adolescent Gohan isnt. It's not really a big deal.

Also, I'd love Bulma and Chi Chi in the games!

It isn't a big deal, yes, but if we're gonna apply logic to one character, then let's apply it to the rest of the roster choice. Base Adolescent Gohan is only in because of the second Broly movie, I know.

Also also WT Announcer is in the games!

STOP

[Anime Kitten]

For all intents and purposes Teen Gohan's base form in the Cell arc WAS Super Saiyan. The comparison to characters like Bulma and ChiChi makes no sense.

Are you (I'm not stating, I'm asking) saying your ideal video game roster would exclude forms of characters that didn't do much?

[DBZAOTA482]

Screentime = importance?
Let's just put Bulma in then. And Adult Chi-Chi. And all those characters who got screentime but aren't fighters.

Adult Chi-Chi would honestly be a more logical roster addition than a lot of the characters both in XV and what fans want. She's shown plenty of skills and was the strongest woman till #18 came into the picture (still is if you consider #18's strength is not really her own).

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Doesn't stop them from adding Freeza Soldier fodder who didn't even have on-screen fight scenes.

[Shin]

Because he never did anything in that form and we only see him in that form for a short time after Cell is defeated.

Doesn't stop them from adding Freeza Soldier fodder who didn't even have on-screen fight scenes.

Their purpose in the roster is for mob fights in quests/missions. Teen Gohan virtually has no purpose in SP.

[Anime Kitten]

Their purpose in the roster is for mob fights in quests/missions. Teen Gohan virtually has no purpose in SP.

And why not? Why do the Freeza Soldiers need to be playable? There's no logic that applies only to Base Tween Gohan (that is, logic that can't be applied to someone else).

[ArchedThunder]

For all intents and purposes Teen Gohan's base form in the Cell arc WAS Super Saiyan. The comparison to characters like Bulma and ChiChi makes no sense.

Are you (I'm not stating, I'm asking) saying your ideal video game roster would exclude forms of characters that didn't do much?

No, I'd like base Teen Gohan, but his exclusion doesn't bother me because his base form for the arc was Super Saiyan. It's not just that base Gohan didn't do anything, it's that Super Saiyan WAS his base form.

Their purpose in the roster is for mob fights in quests/missions. Teen Gohan virtually has no purpose in SP.

And why not? Why do the Freeza Soldiers need to be playable? There's no logic that applies only to Base Tween Gohan (that is, logic that can't be applied to someone else).

For mob battles. Saibamen, Cell Jr and the Freeza Soldiers don't even have full movesets, they exist specifically to fight in mob battles, but they decided to allow people to play as them as well.