If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
User avatar
Steven Bloodriver
I Live Here
Posts: 3499
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 pm

If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:12 pm

How strong would the first son of Goku have been as either a Super Saiyan 4 or Super Saiyan Blue by the time of the Battle of Gods Saga, Resurrection F Saga, Universe 6 vs. Universe 7 Saga, Copy-Vegeta Saga, and the infamous Future Trunks Saga?

User avatar
DBZAOTA482
Banned
Posts: 6995
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
Contact:

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:15 pm

I don't think Gohan could even train in his condition.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

User avatar
dragon boss z
I Live Here
Posts: 2047
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:19 am

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by dragon boss z » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:21 pm

Buu saga
He probably would of either stopped Majin Vegeta and Buu from being formed or just of destroyed Buu when he popped out.

Battle of Gods
He still would of been stomped by Beerus

Resurrection F
He would of made Frieza transform, but final form Frieza still would of beat him
If he unlocked SSB he would of beat Frieza.

Universe 6 v 7
He would of replaced Piccolo. If we put him in where Piccolo was, he either would of beat Frost or got poisoned. If he beat Frost he would make it up to Hit and then lose.
If he unlocked SSB he would of beat everyone on universe 6.

Copy-Vegeta saga
Toei filler that Gohan wasn't even in.

Black saga
If he doesn't have god power they still probably would of left him behind. If he became an SSB he would go to the future with them and they would of killed Black before he could of fused with Zamasu.

User avatar
floofychan333
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1378
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:03 pm
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by floofychan333 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:50 pm

Never stopped training? You mean literally?
"All of you. All of you must have KILL all the SEASONS!" -Dough (Tenshinhan), Speedy Dub of Movie 9.

"My opinion of Norihito's Sumitomo's new score is... well, very mixed. The stuff that's good is pretty darn good, but the stuff that's bad makes elevator music sound like Jerry freaking Goldsmith." -Kenisu

User avatar
ChiefWamsutta
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 946
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 7:11 pm

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:01 pm

dragon boss z wrote:Buu saga
He probably would of either stopped Majin Vegeta and Buu from being formed or just of destroyed Buu when he popped out.

Battle of Gods
He still would of been stomped by Beerus

Resurrection F
He would of made Frieza transform, but final form Frieza still would of beat him
If he unlocked SSB he would of beat Frieza.

Universe 6 v 7
He would of replaced Piccolo. If we put him in where Piccolo was, he either would of beat Frost or got poisoned. If he beat Frost he would make it up to Hit and then lose.
If he unlocked SSB he would of beat everyone on universe 6.

Copy-Vegeta saga
Toei filler that Gohan wasn't even in.

Black saga
If he doesn't have god power they still probably would of left him behind. If he became an SSB he would go to the future with them and they would of killed Black before he could of fused with Zamasu.
Pretty much sums it up, yeah.

User avatar
nickzambuto
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1705
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:53 pm

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by nickzambuto » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:51 am

Sheer effort isn't enough to make great gains. Look at Future Gohan as an example. Even if Gohan chose to dedicate himself to training, if he doesn't possess an actual passion for it, then he'll never be able to figure out how to break past walls and get around his limits. Future Gohan reached the legendary power of Super Saiyan and never even thought that there could be levels beyond that. He continued straining and stretching his power without ever actually improving much because that was the limit of a Super Saiyan. Unlike Vegeta, who was ambitious, creative, and crazy enough to say "this Super Saiyan power which I've dreamed of and idolized all my life wasn't enough. So I'll just find something better than Super Saiyan" Gohan never had the idea of something even higher being possible. He just continued stretching Super Saiyan, but to no avail.

The short of it is, even if he trained, he doesn't know how to draw out his own hidden power. If he trained on his own in between Cell and Boo, at best, he would have gotten moderately stronger than he was as a child. Not enough to actually change the events.

Souheil21
Newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:23 am

Re: If Son Gohan had never stopped training after the defeat of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga...

Post by Souheil21 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:35 pm

he would still be curb stomped by beerus, but later he would easily beat frieza and possibly unlock SSJB

Post Reply