Why Is Chaozu Seen As A Z Fighter By The Cell Arc To Some?

[Big Green The Yoshi]

I mean he doesn't even help out against the Cyborgs and Cell, and even before that Tenshinhan told him to stay behind during the fight with the Saiyans. Yajirobe is way more useful and notable and he doesn't even fight after the Vegeta fight either. Not to mention it honestly surprised me how forgettable he was in the Manga.

[Ki Breaker]

I mean he doesn't even help out against the Cyborgs and Cell, and even before that Tenshinhan told him to stay behind during the fight with the Saiyans. Yajirobe is way more useful and notable and he doesn't even fight after the Vegeta fight either. Not to mention it honestly surprised me how forgettable he was in the Manga.

He is seen as a z fighter because he is. I do not understand what you mean..
He did die for them against nappa, just because he dosen't fight anymore dosen't mean he isn't a z fighter

[Zephyr]

He shows up here with the rest of the gang:


That's always made me feel that he was "important" still, for some reason.

[precita]

The last time Chiaotzu went with the others is when Cyborg Freeza came to Earth. After that he was irrelevant which is why he didn't show up at the Cell games with Tenshihan and Yamcha.

[Akyon]

He shows up here with the rest of the gang:


That's always made me feel that he was "important" still, for some reason.

This image here. I do wonder if Toriyama originally planned for Chaozu to be in the Cell saga but at the last second couldn't come up with ANYTHING for him to do and just dropped him from the lineup.

He's still with the other Z fighters flying through the air next to Shenron in Super's opening. Really at this point Master Roshi should be replacing him.

[DBZAOTA482]

Chiaotzu literally sacrificed his life to save Earth. He still deserves to be considered a Z-Warrior either you like him or not.

[Zephyr]

He's still with the other Z fighters flying through the air next to Shenron in Super's opening. Really at this point Master Roshi should be replacing him.

At this point Roshi's already replaced Yamcha.

[precita]

Its kind of ironic than Yamcha is seen as a retired fighter yet he's been with the main cast in every saga and even Tenshihan was absent for the majority of the Buu arc.

[Akyon]

Chiaotzu literally sacrificed his life to save Earth. He still deserves to be considered a Z-Warrior either you like him or not.

Well that's true, but so did Roshi when he fought King Piccolo. Why is one a Z fighter, and the other not?

Also where does Yajirobe stand in all of this? He's technically stronger than Chiaotzu(at least in the Saiyan saga) and he fought the Saiyans attacking Earth too.

Maybe the real question is; what MAKES a Z Fighter a Z Fighter?

[dragonball0900]

I think what makes a Z fighter a Z fighter is to be present at many moments and want to be there. If we only consider DBZ, then Roshi was not present at all during the battles, he wasn't in the saiyan arc, when Mecha Frieza landed, or Androids. Yajirobe wasn't at the Mecha Frieza arc, and the reason he's probably not a Z fighter is because he doesn't like to fight at all, never goes with the others to the battle when they need him, the only time he did that was in the saiyan arc, but even so, he wasn't there when Piccolo, Tien and the others were alive (though at least that made him more useful in the end).

Chiaotzu, while not relevant at all, is at least there with the others. He wasn't in the androids arc, but he was on all the others. In the Frieza arc, he was one of the z fighers who were dead from the saiyan arc, and needed to be revived. I suppose that if for example Roshi was killed during the saiyan saga as well, he would probably be in the logo too. Chiaotzu is also Tien's inseparable friend, so I guess that's the main reason why he's there as well, when Tien is there Chiaotzu is there, when Tien is not there then Chiaotzu won't be there at all.

[Captain Strawberry]

Chiaotzu literally sacrificed his life to save Earth. He still deserves to be considered a Z-Warrior either you like him or not.

I agree. He died like a warrior. Fighting in battle.

Also, he has useful abilities so why not.

[precita]

Also where does Yajirobe stand in all of this? He's technically stronger than Chiaotzu(at least in the Saiyan saga) and he fought the Saiyans attacking Earth too.

Maybe the real question is; what MAKES a Z Fighter a Z Fighter?

Yajirobe flat out not wanting to fight and never wanting to be in the battles after the Saiyan arc is likely what keeps him out of the main cast as a fighter. Sort of the same reason Mr. Satan isn't seen as one despite being important to the defeat of the villains.

[floofychan333]

He could have showed up to fight the androids and Cell but Tenshinhan wouldn't let him because he was way too weak. So Chaozu isn't really a Z Fighter any more, just a character who's around because he's friends with the fighters and their social group.

[Saturnine]

You do realize that "Z Fighter" is a very loose and informal term?

[rereboy]

Its kind of ironic than Yamcha is seen as a retired fighter yet he's been with the main cast in every saga and even Tenshihan was absent for the majority of the Buu arc.

Yamcha is one of the original gang. He was in the Pilaf saga and he was the only other fighter besides Goku. Even Krillin only shows up later.

[Marco Polo]

Why are you saying Chaozu is a Z Fighter and Roshi isn't a Z Fighter? What's your basis for making these statements?

[dragonball0900]

Why are you saying Chaozu is a Z Fighter and Roshi isn't a Z Fighter? What's your basis for making these statements?

I don't know what others think, but I guess it's more like the letter Z represents to them in Dragon Ball Z more than Dragon Ball, so I think that makes Chiaotzu more of a Z fighter than Roshi. Maybe Roshi would be more like an ex-Z fighter.

[Kishido]

I see him as Pokemon

[precita]

Isn't "Z-fighter" a dub term FUNimation came up with? Do they ever say that in the Japanese version?

[DBZAOTA482]

Chiaotzu literally sacrificed his life to save Earth. He still deserves to be considered a Z-Warrior either you like him or not.

Well that's true, but so did Roshi when he fought King Piccolo. Why is one a Z fighter, and the other not?

Also where does Yajirobe stand in all of this? He's technically stronger than Chiaotzu(at least in the Saiyan saga) and he fought the Saiyans attacking Earth too.

Maybe the real question is; what MAKES a Z Fighter a Z Fighter?

Well, Chiaotzu and Yajirobe were actively involved (or wanted to) in fights during Z while Roshi was retired.