When did the series drag for you?

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

Now don't get me wrong I love this series through and through, it's my favorite anime/manga of all time. However like any other series sometimes it feels like the series has run it's coarse and it feels like it's dragging to the finish line. To me, I guess it's the middle of the Buu saga, everything was great in the first half but as the 2nd half it just seems like it dragged on a bit and I am guy who enjoyed the long Goku vs Freeza fight, What are your guy's thoughts?

[huzaifa_ahmed]

Z-era, when I wasn't watching Kai. Or reading the manga.

[SaiyanGod117]

I guess it's the middle of the Buu saga, everything was great in the first half but as the 2nd half it just seems like it dragged on a bit

Similar to how I felt, when I was reading the manga. Toriyama had something going with the first half, but after Vegeta scarifies himself. Particularly that's the point the storytelling takes a hit and drags, as for the anime it's during the Mid-Namek when the when Dragon Ball turn to stone that's when that horrible filler kicks in. Buu Saga had a lot of filler as well, but the animation and art was consistently good throughout the whole arc. While for the Cell Saga, it really wasn't problem of pacing, but appearance- once the fight against Goku vs Android 19 started. Mostly whole arc would take after the look of that fight, from that point on.

[sintzu]

Z's Namek arc was really slow, especially during Goku's fight with Freeza. Kai thankfully fixed this.

The 2nd slowest part would be DB's RRA arc although it's nowhere near as slow as the above. I read it's better in the manga so I probably won't have an issue with it there.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

I guess it's the middle of the Buu saga, everything was great in the first half but as the 2nd half it just seems like it dragged on a bit

Similar to how I felt, when I was reading the manga. Toriyama had something going with the first half, but after Vegeta scarifies himself. Particularly that's the point the storytelling takes a hit and drags, as for the anime it's during the Mid-Namek when the when Dragon Ball turn to stone that's when that horrible filler kicks in. Buu Saga had a lot of filler as well, but the animation and art was consistently good throughout the whole arc. While for the Cell Saga, it really wasn't problem of pacing, but appearance- once the fight against Goku vs Android 19 started. Mostly whole arc would take after the look of that fight, from that point on.

Mid Namek filler despite the Giant Crabs didn't bug me as much although I see what you mean. It was more of the begining when they met the orphans or the fake namekians seems all over the place.

[DBZAOTA482]

Manga

Most of the latter Majin Boo Saga

Anime

Many times. The RRA arc and especially Namek/Freeza arcs in general felt really dragged out.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'm a very patient when it comes to my storytelling, I even enjoy Z's pace for the most part. However, there are definitely a certain few places that are an absolute chore to get through. For me, those consist of the Wedding Arc, the Namek filler where Bulma loses the Dragon Ball, and the Garlic Jr. Arc. As for newer material, the FT Arc drags for almost half of its episodes, but I've been fine with the pace of the rest of it. I'm not counting the US Arc yet, but I suspect it'll be fine as long as you're watching in bulk.

[precita]

The only time it really dragged was Goku Vs. Freeza on Namek. 30 episodes of the same fight, even with everything that happened in it, was way too much.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

The Universal Survival story arc in DBS is ass dragging and it's so boring. Just get to the fucking tournament already!

In the original, it was the islands portion with Vegeta and Trunks in the Cell arc. However, good Kikuchi music and Wakamoto made up for it. The original series had the advantage of consistently good acting and music, so I wasn't much bothered by it's slow pacing.

[Boo Machine]

It's very hard for me to get bored. But I would say it was the last half of GT where I was struggling not to fall asleep. So I guess that's when it started dragging for me.

[TheGodfather93]

The Boo arc was too damn long. Way too much crap happened that ultimately amounted to nothing, and Boo had way too many forms. It was such a chore to get through the first time. It had its epic moments, as with every arc, but that doesn't take away from all the crappiness.

[DHM211]

Most of the Namek arc in the Z anime, and most of the first two arcs of Super.

[Gog]

Honestly, out of everything in Dragon Ball what dragged out the most for me would be all of Goku's scenes in the Red Ribbon Army Arc. Not when he's interacting with other characters like Kuririn, Bulma, and Commander Blue mind you. Those would have to be my favorite parts of the arc. But, when he's by himself, and he's by himself for long periods of time in this arc. His whole naivety gag only really works when he's in a group.

Kid Goku also doesn't have enough personality to be by his lonesome in Dragon Ball.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The Boo arc was too damn long. Way too much crap happened that ultimately amounted to nothing, and Boo had way too many forms. It was such a chore to get through the first time. It had its epic moments, as with every arc, but that doesn't take away from all the crappiness.

I'm sorry... nothing? That's a bizarre opinion, I think most people would agree that despite all of the previous hiccups, the Boo Arc's tail end brought several of the best character moments in the entire series.

[precita]

The Boo arc was too damn long. Way too much crap happened that ultimately amounted to nothing, and Boo had way too many forms. It was such a chore to get through the first time. It had its epic moments, as with every arc, but that doesn't take away from all the crappiness.

The Boo arc overall has so many different arcs going on in it:

- Otherworld/Pikkon tournament in the anime
- Great Saiyaman episodes
- World tournament episodes with Trunks/Goten and what we see with 18/Mr.Satan
- Babidi's ship episodes
- Majin Vegeta Vs. Goku
- Initial Fat Buu appearance Vs. Vegeta/Gohan/Goku
- Fusion training with Trunks/Goten and Gotenks
- Mr. Satan befriending Buu
- Time chamber fight with Gotenks ghosts (my favorite)
- Ultimate Gohan
- Vegito
- Episodes in Buu's body
- Final climax with Kid Buu and Goku/Vegeta on the Kai's world


Unlike other arcs, the Boo saga had so many different mini-arcs and changes going on in it I never got bored.

[TheGodfather93]

The Boo arc was too damn long. Way too much crap happened that ultimately amounted to nothing, and Boo had way too many forms. It was such a chore to get through the first time. It had its epic moments, as with every arc, but that doesn't take away from all the crappiness.

I'm sorry... nothing? That's a bizarre opinion, I think most people would agree that despite all of the previous hiccups, the Boo Arc's tail end brought several of the best character moments in the entire series.

I meant in regards to seemingly major things happening with no real payoff. Vegeta blew himself up to try and stop Boo, only for Boo to survive. Goten and Trunks learnt fusion and Gotenks transformed into SSJ3, only to do nothing against Boo but get absorbed by him. Gohan got his potential unlocked by Elder Kai and achieved a humongous power boost, only to get cocky against Boo and get absorbed as well. Goku and Vegeta fused into Vegetto and beat Boo around for a bit, and while they did accomplish some stuff, they still didn't kill Boo off. In the end, the day was saved by Goku and his Genkidama (I admit, having to rely on the life energy of everyone on Earth to stop Boo was a pretty good way to end the arc). Some might say each of the events leading up to this had a purpose, and I get where they're coming from. But it could also be said that these events just pad out an already bloated arc even further.

[SHINOBI-03]

The only time it really dragged was Goku Vs. Freeza on Namek. 30 episodes of the same fight, even with everything that happened in it, was way too much.

Actually, it was 19 episodes. 9 episodes as regular Goku and 10 as Super Saiyan.

The Boo Saga however? One day took about 47 episodes and the next day took no less than 30 episodes! And people joke about the 5 minutes of Namek?! The Boo Saga took it to a whole different level!

[ABED]

The RRA drags quite a bit, The Freeza fight drags, especially before Goku gets to the battlefield. There are only so many times I can deal with "Yes, we aren't going to die! Fuck we're screwed! Yes, we got him, we might just make it out alive! Shit, he's still alive and he's transformed!" The Cell arc drags during the episodes between 17 fighting Piccolo and Cell issuing a challenge to Trunks. The Buu arc as a whole drags a lot.

[DrakenballP]

Most of Z, honestly. I won't watch Z again, I'll stick to Kai if I want to re-watch.

[ABED]

Kai takes care of most of the pacing issues, but the Buu arc still drags even in the manga. It's ironic given that it also feels as though Toriyama was rushing to the finish.