How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
Hawk9211
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 812
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Hawk9211 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:07 am

I know that toyotaro said something along the lines of struggling to keep up pages,but ignoring that how much pages can a manga reasonably have monthly or weekly?

From the series,I am keeping up.One piece goes on break after 4 or 5 issues.Nanatsu no taizai rarely goes on outside the magazine breaks.One punch man had 143 pages in 40 days and then 41 pages in 20 days.I know that dr stone mangaka is publishing two mangas,even though I don't read it.All these mangas except one piece have good consistent art.

Personally,I would really love if manga goes 60 pages a month or weekly.Please give your thoughts.
Why power levels are important?
The genre and roots of dragon ball

User avatar
prince212
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 797
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:30 pm
Location: wild west

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by prince212 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:42 am

Hawk9211 wrote:I know that toyotaro said something along the lines of struggling to keep up pages,but ignoring that how much pages can a manga reasonably have monthly or weekly?

From the series,I am keeping up.One piece goes on break after 4 or 5 issues.Nanatsu no taizai rarely goes on outside the magazine breaks.One punch man had 143 pages in 40 days and then 41 pages in 20 days.I know that dr stone mangaka is publishing two mangas,even though I don't read it.All these mangas except one piece have good consistent art.

Personally,I would really love if manga goes 60 pages a month or weekly.Please give your thoughts.
Of course i would take 60 pages instead of 45 , Toyotarō statement about manga being ahead or Catch up seems to be far impossible , if we calculate where we would be if 60 pages from the beginning ,means we will be the next chapter 43 instead of 32.... and to catch up the point of the series on tv .... y believe 15 chapters are needed
It was as if a whole lot of people ...were screaming in pain....

User avatar
Baggie_Saiyan
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:22 pm
Location: Atlantis.

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:49 am

prince212 wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:I know that toyotaro said something along the lines of struggling to keep up pages,but ignoring that how much pages can a manga reasonably have monthly or weekly?

From the series,I am keeping up.One piece goes on break after 4 or 5 issues.Nanatsu no taizai rarely goes on outside the magazine breaks.One punch man had 143 pages in 40 days and then 41 pages in 20 days.I know that dr stone mangaka is publishing two mangas,even though I don't read it.All these mangas except one piece have good consistent art.

Personally,I would really love if manga goes 60 pages a month or weekly.Please give your thoughts.
Of course i would take 60 pages instead of 45 , Toyotarō statement about manga being ahead or Catch up seems to be far impossible , if we calculate where we would be if 60 pages from the beginning ,means we will be the next chapter 43 instead of 32.... and to catch up the point of the series on tv .... y believe 15 chapters are needed
To be fair he said he'd be ahead of the tv series not necessarily meaning his Manga adaptation, and he was indeed right he did designs with Toriyama for the arc which in turn Yamamuro then adapted into character designs for the tv series, as Toyo also said the anime staff were sending him stuff for the Trunks arc but the U.S arc was roles reverse.

Plus giving the fact said interview doesn't have a Japanese transcript there is no way of knowing if ANN translated accurately (unless Toyo did the interview in English).

Michsi
I Live Here
Posts: 4557
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:10 pm

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:01 am

I think around 40 pages is the norm for most monthly chapter releases. I know some people think that since weekly magazines like Shonen Jump and Shonen Sunday have around 20 pages for their titles, it only makes sense for the monthly titles to have more than twice that number, but I will say this : 45 pages is a lot of work.
The artists that manage to produce 20 pages weekly are a rarity and even then they need assistants to help them meet their deadline. Assistants which they pay out of their own pockets. I don't know what Toyotaro is getting paid, but I assume it's not the full rate since some of it probably has to go to Toriyama. And DBS manga seems to be doing well, but not great. That makes hiring assistants probably a little difficult.

User avatar
Hawk9211
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 812
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Hawk9211 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Michsi wrote:I think around 40 pages is the norm for most monthly chapter releases. I know some people think that since weekly magazines like Shonen Jump and Shonen Sunday have around 20 pages for their titles, it only makes sense for the monthly titles to have more than twice that number, but I will say this : 45 pages is a lot of work.
The artists that manage to produce 20 pages weekly are a rarity and even then they need assistants to help them meet their deadline. Assistants which they pay out of their own pockets. I don't know what Toyotaro is getting paid, but I assume it's not the full rate since some of it probably has to go to Toriyama. And DBS manga seems to be doing well, but not great. That makes hiring assistants probably a little difficult.
but 60 pages :(
Why power levels are important?
The genre and roots of dragon ball

Michsi
I Live Here
Posts: 4557
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:10 pm

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:23 pm

Hawk9211 wrote:
Michsi wrote:I think around 40 pages is the norm for most monthly chapter releases. I know some people think that since weekly magazines like Shonen Jump and Shonen Sunday have around 20 pages for their titles, it only makes sense for the monthly titles to have more than twice that number, but I will say this : 45 pages is a lot of work.
The artists that manage to produce 20 pages weekly are a rarity and even then they need assistants to help them meet their deadline. Assistants which they pay out of their own pockets. I don't know what Toyotaro is getting paid, but I assume it's not the full rate since some of it probably has to go to Toriyama. And DBS manga seems to be doing well, but not great. That makes hiring assistants probably a little difficult.
but 60 pages :(
is a monstrous amount of work. Sorry :?

Murata is an exception, but then again I don't think he has a regular schedule/deadline either. I think chapters get released randomly. Have to look into that. But my point is you shouldn't use the industry's top performers as a measuring stick. They are the exception, not the norm.

User avatar
Hawk9211
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 812
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Hawk9211 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:43 pm

Michsi wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Michsi wrote:I think around 40 pages is the norm for most monthly chapter releases. I know some people think that since weekly magazines like Shonen Jump and Shonen Sunday have around 20 pages for their titles, it only makes sense for the monthly titles to have more than twice that number, but I will say this : 45 pages is a lot of work.
The artists that manage to produce 20 pages weekly are a rarity and even then they need assistants to help them meet their deadline. Assistants which they pay out of their own pockets. I don't know what Toyotaro is getting paid, but I assume it's not the full rate since some of it probably has to go to Toriyama. And DBS manga seems to be doing well, but not great. That makes hiring assistants probably a little difficult.
but 60 pages :(
is a monstrous amount of work. Sorry :?

Murata is an exception, but then again I don't think he has a regular schedule/deadline either. I think chapters get released randomly. Have to look into that. But my point is you shouldn't use the industry's top performers as a measuring stick. They are the exception, not the norm.
I know,at least it should move to bi weekly even if he doesn't increase content(5 more pages should be reasonable if he does increase pages:D)Are there any bi weekly manga?
Murata doesn't have a schedule,you are right about that.
Why power levels are important?
The genre and roots of dragon ball

Michsi
I Live Here
Posts: 4557
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:10 pm

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:46 pm

Hawk9211 wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote: but 60 pages :(
is a monstrous amount of work. Sorry :?

Murata is an exception, but then again I don't think he has a regular schedule/deadline either. I think chapters get released randomly. Have to look into that. But my point is you shouldn't use the industry's top performers as a measuring stick. They are the exception, not the norm.
I know,at least it should move to bi weekly even if he doesn't increase content(5 more pages should be reasonable if he does increase pages:D)Are there any bi weekly manga?
Murata doesn't have a schedule,you are right about that.
There are magazines that appear every two weeks, but V-Jump isn't one of them. I doubt that a magazine that is mostly used for promoting video games and such would change it's publishing frequency for the sake of a series, even if that series is Dragon Ball. The only other option would be to have Shuiesha move it to another magazine, which I doubt would happen since the manga seems to exists to promote the anime, but I don't think they have a bi-montly magazine anyway.

User avatar
OLKv3
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1822
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:39 pm

Re: How reasonable is to manga having more pages?

Post by OLKv3 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:19 am

60 pages a week would be absolutely insane

Post Reply