Why didn't Goku go back into the ROSAT before the Cell Games?

[PFM18]

Why didn't Goku go back into the ROSAT in the 10 days before the Cell Games? Piccolo was planning out when everybody would go in and he said Goku and Gohan would go in again last, but Goku didn't want to use the other 24 hours. He could have used all 48 but I don't think he even used up the first day. He was extremely relaxed in the time leading up to the Cell Games despite admitting that he couldn't beat Cell.

He knew that Gohan had a better chance than he did and he knew that Gohan could draw out more power with anger but was he really banking the entire planet on Gohan the entire time? If so then why wouldn't he encurage Gohan to keep training in the 10 days and/or continue training with Gohan? That way he could ensure the best possible chance that Gohan could come out victorious.

[Meshack]

He found another way to get stronger and that was having Super Saiyan cause less strain on the body.

[PFM18]

He found another way to get stronger and that was having Super Saiyan cause less strain on the body.

Ok but he already did that in the first ROSAT visit. Couldn't he further his gains if he went in again?

[Darkprince410]

He found another way to get stronger and that was having Super Saiyan cause less strain on the body.

Ok but he already did that in the first ROSAT visit. Couldn't he further his gains if he went in again?

He specifically felt like the gains he'd get from doing that would be needlessly torturous to him. Allowing Gohan's rage to give him the power boost needed to defeat Cell was what he was banking on in order to win.

In his own words:

Vegeta: “Well, well…So even the great Kakarot admits defeat against the rigors of that room…”
Goku: “Maybe…But pointlessly toughening up my body more than this is just torture, not training. But I won’t object if you guys enter that room again. It looks like you still have room left to toughen up more.”
Vegeta: “What was that…? I don’t like that…The way you said that made it sound like you’re saying that your true ability is greater than mine…”
Goku: “Yeah, a whole lot greater, I think.”

[Desassina]

Is that why Goku Black was still able to get a near death recovery and increase his power while Vegeta was not? That could have been a great reference. Perhaps Goku will get to Ultra Instincts in the manga through another.

[BlueVegerot]

Because 1 more day in there wouldn't have made any difference for him and he miscalculated gohans motivations so he didn't think it was necessary to give him another day in there.

7 years after the cell games, goku and majin vegeta were only somewhat stronger than cell games gohan so goku was probably right that 1 more day wouldn't have made any difference for him and instead would have hurt him

[shadowfox87]

It was explained that he wanted to rest for the last day and also let Gohan rest. The training was essentially maintaining the SSJ state while relaxed. Whis also later stated in DBS that the reason Vegeta never catches up to Goku is because he doesn't learn to relax and trains too hard. Part of training requires the body to relax. If you over stress your muscles and your body, you don't get better - you reach a saturation point. Ki is about genki (vigor), shoki (mind), and yuki (courage). In order to focus on any competition even in the real world, most athletes will spend the last day not exercising and taking it easy to relax their mind (shoki).

[Meshack]

Is that why Goku Black was still able to get a near death recovery and increase his power while Vegeta was not? That could have been a great reference. Perhaps Goku will get to Ultra Instincts in the manga through another.

Gokou-Black was able to get power ups from injury because Black never trained to his limit like Son Gokou and Vegeta. Although he does have Gokou's body, he has the mind of Zamasu and the body and mind are connected.

[shadowfox87]

Is that why Goku Black was still able to get a near death recovery and increase his power while Vegeta was not? That could have been a great reference. Perhaps Goku will get to Ultra Instincts in the manga through another.

Gokou-Black was able to get power ups from injury because Black never trained to his limit like Son Gokou and Vegeta. Although he does have Gokou's body, he has the mind of Zamasu and the body and mind are connected.

Actually, the zenkai boosts Black got was a result of him healing from Future Zamasu. This wasn't shown in the anime correctly as Black just got stronger from injury while zenkai works after getting healed. Each time he healed, Goku's cells fused with Zamasu's ki, making it more his own. When he got Goku's body initially, he couldn't access all of its strength and couldn't even turn SSJ. Just like Ginyu couldn't access Goku's strength either. As he healed more and more, he could access Goku's full power and get past the zenkai limit since it was his ki that was driving it. I explained and referenced the explanation Goku gives in the manga in my log power scale thread in my sig.

[Meshack]

Is that why Goku Black was still able to get a near death recovery and increase his power while Vegeta was not? That could have been a great reference. Perhaps Goku will get to Ultra Instincts in the manga through another.

Gokou-Black was able to get power ups from injury because Black never trained to his limit like Son Gokou and Vegeta. Although he does have Gokou's body, he has the mind of Zamasu and the body and mind are connected.

Actually, the zenkai boosts Black got was a result of him healing from Future Zamasu. This wasn't shown in the anime correctly as Black just got stronger from injury while zenkai works after getting healed. Each time he healed, Goku's cells fused with Zamasu's ki, making it more his own. When he got Goku's body initially, he couldn't access all of its strength and couldn't even turn SSJ. Just like Ginyu couldn't access Goku's strength either. As he healed more and more, he could access Goku's full power and get past the zenkai limit since it was his ki that was driving it. I explained and referenced the explanation Goku gives in the manga in my log power scale thread in my sig.

Well duhh. It doesn’t change the fact he got stronger from injury. That’s what the power up is. Look at Daizenshuu

[shadowfox87]

Well duhh. It doesn’t change the fact he got stronger from injury. That’s what the power up is. Look at Daizenshuu

Not just from the injury itself though. It's after being healed from that injury. In the anime, Black gets stronger after injury, no healing. That's what a zenkai is and has always been. You asked me to look at the Daizenshuu, well here it is, Daizenshuu 4:

[FoolsGil]

A better question would be, what changed between Z and Super, because now Goku is in ROSAT all the time.

[Meshack]

A better question would be, what changed between Z and Super, because now Goku is in ROSAT all the time.

He only went in there once.... Dende fixed the room.

[Meshack]

Well duhh. It doesn’t change the fact he got stronger from injury. That’s what the power up is. Look at Daizenshuu

Not just from the injury itself though. It's after being healed from that injury. In the anime, Black gets stronger after injury, no healing. That's what a zenkai is and has always been. You asked me to look at the Daizenshuu, well here it is, Daizenshuu 4:

Dude. I already know this. Why do you think the show never had Black getting healed? Have you ever heard the phrase “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”?

[shadowfox87]

Dude. I already know this. Why do you think the show never had Black getting healed? Have you ever heard the phrase “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”?

If you already know this, then you should know that a Saiyan doesn't get stronger simply by getting injured. Zenkais have never worked like that through all of DBZ. Otherwise, Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku would've simply gotten stronger without healing. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - this only works AFTER being healed. The anime showed it incorrectly. Future Zamasu healed Black after each fight and that's how he got stronger.

[FoolsGil]

A better question would be, what changed between Z and Super, because now Goku is in ROSAT all the time.

He only went in there once.... Dende fixed the room.

Made a mistake, that was Vegeta. Still though, Goku went in once more for 3 years, even though he claimed there was no point in Z.

[DBZAOTA482]

A better question would be, what changed between Z and Super, because now Goku is in ROSAT all the time.

Plot.

[Meshack]

Dude. I already know this. Why do you think the show never had Black getting healed? Have you ever heard the phrase “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”?

If you already know this, then you should know that a Saiyan doesn't get stronger simply by getting injured. Zenkais have never worked like that through all of DBZ. Otherwise, Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku would've simply gotten stronger without healing. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - this only works AFTER being healed. The anime showed it incorrectly. Future Zamasu healed Black after each fight and that's how he got stronger.

Still doesn’t change the fact Gokou-Black got stronger from injury.

[Meshack]

A better question would be, what changed between Z and Super, because now Goku is in ROSAT all the time.

He only went in there once.... Dende fixed the room.

Made a mistake, that was Vegeta. Still though, Goku went in once more for 3 years, even though he claimed there was no point in Z.

In Super SON GOKOU went in once but stayed for three days. Gokou even says there was no point in Super since they were at their limit but Vegeta insisted.

[FoolsGil]

He only went in there once.... Dende fixed the room.

Made a mistake, that was Vegeta. Still though, Goku went in once more for 3 years, even though he claimed there was no point in Z.

In Super SON GOKOU went in once but stayed for three days. Gokou even says there was no point in Super since they were at their limit but Vegeta insisted.

Don't you "SON GOKOU" me, I'll spell Goku how the hell I want.