The Son of Katas and Piccolo Daimaō...

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) I have a question to ask anyone reading this. What do you think would have happened if the Original Nameless Namekian never would have had any evil whatsoever in his heart?

Like for an example, what would have happened if the son of Katas would have had never split into Kami and Piccolo Daimaō from the Original Nameless Namekian having been born with an innocent personality like Dende?

2) Also, I have another question to ask, do you think that Piccolo Daimaō had made for an interesting villain?

[Dbzfan94]

1) If Kami and Piccolo never split, the Original Nameless Namekian would have become guardian/god without needing to split and be much stronger as a result.

2) I think Piccolo is a great villain.

[TobyS]

He could sort Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta out but if Freeza, androids or buu ever comes to earth they are fucked.

What's interesting is what happens to the dragon team. Tambourine doesn't kill Kuririn. He never drinks the water, with Goku getting no Kami training and the others probably still going to Karins he probably beats Kuririn in the final having more trouble with him and Tenshinhan. Kuririn probably beats Yamcha with effort. Probably using flying as a trump card at some point.

When Raditz arrives they need Kami to bail them out.

At the very least Goku dies but the dragonballs aren't gone, nor are they mentioned by Piccolo.

Without the dbs and assuming Goku dies vegeta doesn't care to go to earth.

Goku is rezzed and probably the next year Gohan is wished back.

The cast probably all goes to kami's and trains together to eventually get revenge/protect themselves if they ever come back.

Then it's just a matter of if the saiyans or Freeza stumble upon earth before the androids are built.

We probably get a human trunks going back in time and warning about the androids. I'm not sure what they can do about it even with prep time. Probably the remote is used as human trunks never enters the rosat and has no qualms killing the androids like Kuririn does.

Cell doesn't exist or may not be as strong. He might not even have kami's cells of he wasn't at the budokai or there wasn't a Saiyan fight. Probably doesn't exist in that case. There's a lot of butterfly effects there.

Supreme Kai hasn't heard of Goku probably and they deffo haven't discovered ss1 yet, certainly not 2. Supreme Kai and Kibito probably die. If Buus ball on earth is taken fine but if it's opened on earth everyone dies unless they get really lucky with some mafubas.

There's a bunch of other variables, like with Kami as the base where does he cap out, with no Nail can they beat #19 and #20? Do they exist? Does Kami have a son or wish for youth or find a mortal Kami replacement?

When does Goku get the virus if at all? I suspect kaioken is rolled out to the whole cast.

If Buu is never released somehow and babidi dies they might ask Kaioshin to train them or something.

Towa never gets beef with earth/Buu
Beerus never comes to earth or is placated with food. Did Beerus say he was going to kill Freeza? Raditz and Vegeta are free but keep away from the Ginyu force and people like that. Ironically this is when they might have the liberty to visit earth out of curiosity about where that kid they stole went or just cuz they don't have to go where Freeza tells them anymore.

The U6 tourney never happens or if it does the dragon team gets owned thus switching unis. That affects how the ToP teams work assuming he's still impressed enough by it.

Black never sees godly power pre top on God tube so he never kicks off.

Fuu is never sent off as a baby so doesn't do prison planet shit.

I can't remember how and why the demon realm stuff happened initially but probably mechikabura or Demigra take over everything eventually.

Eventually U6 or 7 are erased anyway unless the universe seed or tree or some scheme like it can topple him.

[Psajdak]

Goku would have surpassed him before even meeting Freeza.

[TobyS]

Goku would have surpassed him before even meeting Freeza.

Guru thinks the only person who could beat him is a super Saiyan until he hears they split and is like “that explains it.”

Goku's only about equal to third form Freeza without any kaioken or SS and Piccolos about equal to second form Freeza who's half as strong as them. That's with the inferior nail fusion rather than the much greater Kami fusion.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Goku would have surpassed him before even meeting Freeza.

Guru thinks the only person who could beat him is a super Saiyan until he hears they split and is like “that explains it.”

Goku's only about equal to third form Freeza without any kaioken or SS and Piccolos about equal to second form Freeza who's half as strong as them. That's with the inferior nail fusion rather than the much greater Kami fusion.

Son Goku had a Power Level of 3,000,000 when he was fighting equally with Fourth Form Frieza in the very beginning of their battle.

[TobyS]

Goku would have surpassed him before even meeting Freeza.

Guru thinks the only person who could beat him is a super Saiyan until he hears they split and is like “that explains it.”

Goku's only about equal to third form Freeza without any kaioken or SS and Piccolos about equal to second form Freeza who's half as strong as them. That's with the inferior nail fusion rather than the much greater Kami fusion.

Son Goku had a Power Level of 3,000,000 when he was fighting equally with Fourth Form Frieza in the very beginning of their battle.

Yes and Freeza had 1,???,??? In his second form and seems to double with each transformation.