Is Bulma immoral

[Aim]

This is something that’s been on my mind for a while now, is Bulma immoral? Hear me out.

The Dragon Ball world by no means perfect, there’s poor people, rapists, overall disgusting people, but there’s also some good. This is where Uub and such would come in. I want to talk about Bulma though, and more specifically her ability to easily make life better for the world.

This idea came to me because someone brought up Gero could probably have powered the electricity of the entire world but instead he used the energy devices on the Androids for infinite ki. This brings me to Bulma. There’s no reason a genius like Bulma couldn’t invent a way to power the entire worlds electricity, this includes also giving food to those villages on the outskirts of nowhere.

You may think she’s doing this already however I beg to differ, the fact we saw Uub essentially work his butt off to carry food or water is enough proof to me there’s still essentially similar issues in the Dragon Ball world than what we have going on irl. Not to mention Nam, and the fact his village was poor as hell. As it is we produce enough food irl to feed the entire planet, it baffles me someone like Bulma wouldn’t have tried to fix this problem in her reality, or even her father.

I guess it comes down to the basic problem we find ourselves in today; capitalism.

I’d like to hear all of you peeps thoughts.

[PurestEvil]

I dunno, FWIW Bulma also made out with the guy who ordered the murders of half her friends and tried to wipe out humanity before.
I would say she is selfish.

[SupremeKai25]

I dunno, FWIW Bulma also made out with the guy who ordered the murders of half her friends and tried to wipe out humanity before.
I would say she is selfish.

This is a good argument to make. She married a monster who tried to destroy the Earth (mundicide) and actually did destroy other planets (like the insectoid planet, which was inhabited by an entire civilization). She married someone whose hands are stained with the blood of billions of innocent people, so yeah I'd say she is very immoral, some might find her downright disturbing (because she had sex with someone who committed mundicide).

[goku the krump dancer]

Its not on Bulma to solve all of the world's problems, her contribution to society is due to the "Capsule" technology that her and her father's company is named after. That said, it was that same capsule tech that allowed Nam to secure acres of what for his village, that only experienced a drought because of the Sun, which is something that can't really be fought against in Old World villages like that. There's no reason to believe she didn't write Oob's family a nice hefty check after she figured out what was going on post the 28th tournament but even still she's not obligated to do that. She's one of the world's geniuses not the only one, since even she was initially confused by Gero's android blue prints.

[Yuji]

Assuming she and her family pay taxes, she shouldn't be morally obliged to do anything else else. You could argue in the same breath that everyone is immoral because they don't take an hour out of their day to gather up the dragon balls to fix the world's problems. Of course this is without getting into the argument of what exactly you define "immoral" as being.

I wouldn't say it's a question of capitalism, it runs deeper than that. It is essentially the trolley problem repurposed once again: is it immoral not to act knowing you could? I don't think so but responses will differ.

[precita]

Yes she flashed Roshi.

[BWri]

Its not on Bulma to solve all of the world's problems, her contribution to society is due to the "Capsule" technology that her and her father's company is named after. That said, it was that same capsule tech that allowed Nam to secure acres of what for his village, that only experienced a drought because of the Sun, which is something that can't really be fought against in Old World villages like that.

Pretty much this. I equate her to the real world's existing billionaires. Compared to them, she's much more moral because its unlikely that her company engages in activities such as union busting, slave wages, pollution, and corruption. Outside of that low bar, her contributions to the world are in her and her families technological prowess and what that itself brings to the world (more good than harm, I think).

If we go by her disposition, I'd say Bulma is amoral or simply neutral. If good or evil rules the world, Bulma will find a way to survive and live life in the way she wants. The future depicts her as a sort of freedom fighter, but I think that's due to the fact that the androids have been systematically wiping everyone out. I get the sense that if Frieza had subjugated the world during his 1st invasion, that Bulma would no doubt live a life as one of his subordinates and continue her technological exploits under Frieza's banners. Getting all she could out of the deal.

Her attraction to an evil person like Vegeta is primal so I can't exactly blame her for that, but her acting on it and seeking out coupling with someone like him is, again, self serving and amoral. It borders on immoral, but there's nothing inherently evil in attraction and sex between two consenting adults. But it does show her as someone who is impulsive and indulgent.

I think, ultimately, Bulma's traits give her a greater potential to be immoral but she thankfully has Goku in her life which has helped her manifest her good tendencies. She's always down to help collect the Dragon Balls to restore her friends, which is fairly selfless.

There's no reason to believe she didn't write Oob's family a nice hefty check after she figured out what was going on post the 28th tournament but even still she's not obligated to do that.

I think this one's a miss though. I don't think she'd do that unless she needed something from Uub or Goku asked her to do it.

[Vijay]

Dude....whatcha sayin? Rapists? In dragonball?

Ofc there are some perverts, but rapists???

I think Bulma's just a rich spoilt kid. While Goku/Nam/Uub are hardworkers who gotta battle it out to survive. Similar to rl lol

Well, Chichi is daughter of Ox King. She too is spoilt to an extent.

While Videl, daughter of World Champion is special as she knows her root

Though no matter how rich you are or technologically advanced u may be, its your heart & mind decides your adventure & life journey.

[Jack Bz]

Dragon Ball's moral system is pretty upside down and the characters are pretty openly selfish most of the time. The characters would sooner wish for a boyfriend or panties before wishing for an end to hunger or poverty. It doesn't mean that they're bad people necessarily but in the real world they probably would be.

Goku and co agreeing to let Gero create and unleash killer androids onto the world rather than stopping him years before he does it should land them all a prison sentence.

[MyVisionity]

I don't see anything wrong about Bulma's relationship with Vegeta. He wasn't actively engaging in murder and wiping out planets anymore. I can't think of any real reason why she wouldn't get together with him.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Considering she tried shoting a kid with a gun, and use her sex appeal on a minor to get a Dragon Ball out of him, I would say yes, Bulma is inmoral.

[Polyphase Avatron]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... sIsUseless

[BWri]

I don't see anything wrong about Bulma's relationship with Vegeta. He wasn't actively engaging in murder and wiping out planets anymore. I can't think of any real reason why she wouldn't get together with him.

He'd just taken part in the genocide of the Namekians and openly bragged abut it with a smirk on his face. Bulma literally heard him say it. He killed them within that week, maybe even a few days prior. At best her desire to get with him was selfish. It doesn't speak well of her character.

[SSJgogeto]

Dude....whatcha sayin? Rapists? In dragonball?

Ofc there are some perverts, but rapists???

Well, yeah

[TobyS]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... sIsUseless

The difference is between DB and marvel is that reed is supposed to be a super hero and a good guy. So it's immersion breaking a guy who can make a time machine can't make vertical farms and clean energy.

However all the DB characters are selfish bastards and don't really pretend to be otherwise, and that's funny and fine, and so it's not ruining shit at the back of your mind.

All billionaires are kinda bastards, extracting the surplus labour from their workers in the form of profit . Committing untold structural violence by hoarding that much wealth. But no less bastardy then the entire dragon team letting two cyborgs they know wipe out the earth be completed because they think it will be fun to do Kung Fu on them as long as they are prepared this time and have worked out harder.

It could be CC is a living wage paying carbon neutral employer with a massive educational outreach and philanthropy program but the fact they weren't assassinated by the likes of Taopaipai by some other billionaire means they probably aren't.

We don't really know how the government or tax system works in the dragon world. Maybe Marxism was never a thing and the proles never achieved class consciousness anywhere.

The nameks seem like agrarian communists and are stronger and spirituality more evolved then humanity so make of that what you will...

[MyVisionity]

He'd just taken part in the genocide of the Namekians and openly bragged abut it with a smirk on his face. Bulma literally heard him say it. He killed them within that week, maybe even a few days prior. At best her desire to get with him was selfish. It doesn't speak well of her character.

That was like two years before they even got together. He was no longer murdering people when they hooked up.

It's not selfish at all. What's done is done. The past isn't pretty, but that's life.

[BWri]

He'd just taken part in the genocide of the Namekians and openly bragged abut it with a smirk on his face. Bulma literally heard him say it. He killed them within that week, maybe even a few days prior. At best her desire to get with him was selfish. It doesn't speak well of her character.

That was like two years before they even got together. He was no longer murdering people when they hooked up.

It's not selfish at all. What's done is done. The past isn't pretty, but that's life.

She invited him into her house that same day and flirted with him. She just learned he wiped out a village. It's clear cut that she was acting on her attraction. That's not the past.

[WittyUsername]

Bulma’s shown doing a number of questionable things to get what she wants at the start of the series, including being willing to bribe a younger kid with her panties.

I don't see anything wrong about Bulma's relationship with Vegeta. He wasn't actively engaging in murder and wiping out planets anymore. I can't think of any real reason why she wouldn't get together with him.

Even if Vegeta wasn’t actively murdering innocent people anymore, there’s never any indication that he feels the least bit remorseful over his actions. He’s also clearly shown to not give a crap about Bulma or Trunks initially. Trunks was conceived because of a one night stand, not because Bulma and Vegeta had some kind of budding romance as part of his ongoing redemption arc. The fact that the Cell saga tries to paint Bulma as the voice of reason among the Dragon Team only serves to make her getting in bed with Vegeta all the more jarring.

[pepd]

There are things most people can do to improve the world and they choose not to, so I think the popular consensus would be that no. The moral line is subjective and, I think, gradual bar of greys. It depends on how much she is aware of the problems she could solve, her believe in her capacity to contribute to solve them, and how much it affects her; we don't know DB world problems, but given that she is a massive genius and she is totally confident in her abilities, I would probably feel her in a not so light shade of grey.

[jjgp1112]

Bulma’s shown doing a number of questionable things to get what she wants at the start of the series, including being willing to bribe a younger kid with her panties.

I don't see anything wrong about Bulma's relationship with Vegeta. He wasn't actively engaging in murder and wiping out planets anymore. I can't think of any real reason why she wouldn't get together with him.

Even if Vegeta wasn’t actively murdering innocent people anymore, there’s never any indication that he feels the least bit remorseful over his actions. He’s also clearly shown to not give a crap about Bulma or Trunks initially. Trunks was conceived because of a one night stand, not because Bulma and Vegeta had some kind of budding romance as part of his ongoing redemption arc. The fact that the Cell saga tries to paint Bulma as the voice of reason among the Dragon Team only serves to make her getting in bed with Vegeta all the more jarring.

Yeah, like Vegeta didn't really express ANY guilt for his actions until the Moro arc. Bulma was clearly thinking with her vagina. Hell, when Goku asks her where Vegeta is when they meet up on May 12, Bulma even scoffs at the idea of continuing to live with him and doesn't even blink when he doesn't try to save her and Trunks - she only even gets mad when he makes a scary face that scares Trunks . Clearly, she knows Vegeta's evil and doesn't care.