Was Toyotaro left in the dark regarding "Super Hero" or was it a ruse?
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Was Toyotaro left in the dark regarding "Super Hero" or was it a ruse?
Starting in with Olibu's drawing in his side project ("Toyotaro Drew It") in March of 2021, and up to the point Pikkon's drawing was released in that year's July, with the rest of the fighters from the Grand Kai's Planet tossed into it all at once, it felt as if Toyotaro was hinting that these folks would be related to the back-then-unknown movie. Do you think it was done on purpose or was Toyotaro left outside the movie plannings?
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I’m pretty certain Toyotaro knows the Granolah arc is before super hero so we’ll get answersGeraldo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:28 am Starting in with Olibu's drawing in his side project ("Toyotaro Drew It") in March of 2021, and up to the point Pikkon's drawing was released in that year's July, with the rest of the fighters from the Grand Kai's Planet tossed into it all at once, it felt as if Toyotaro was hinting that these folks would be related to the back-then-unknown movie. Do you think it was done on purpose or was Toyotaro left outside the movie plannings?
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I don't think him drawing them was an admission they would be in a movie. I think it was more he draws a character who has not been in the manga yet. And what bigger pool of characters then a filler arc around the series peak could there be.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Did I miss something? What do they have to do with the movie?
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There's no reason for Toyo to be a part of DBS SH's planning, besides he has enough on his plate as it is. He probably is as curious as the rest of as, and asked Toriyama about it, also there must've been some pointers in order to not contradict the movie.
AFAIK, those characters aren't showing up in the movie. Those characters he draws have more chances of appearing or being referenced in his manga (like Bardock) rathen than in a project he has nothing to do with.
AFAIK, those characters aren't showing up in the movie. Those characters he draws have more chances of appearing or being referenced in his manga (like Bardock) rathen than in a project he has nothing to do with.
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That doesn’t answer anything that’s just you guessing if Toyotaro knows about the movie planning or not. All these guys work together Toriyama works with Toyotaro since he started the Super manga.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:20 pm There's no reason for Toyo to be a part of DBS SH's planning, besides he has enough on his plate as it is. He probably is as curious as the rest of as, and asked Toriyama about it, also there must've been some pointers in order to not contradict the movie.
AFAIK, those characters aren't showing up in the movie. Those characters he draws have more chances of appearing or being referenced in his manga (like Bardock) rathen than in a project he has nothing to do with.
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Of course it's me guessing, I'm not Toyo, Tori, nor know them in real life. I you wanted an actual, undisputable answer about what Toyo does or does not know, you should've addressed the producers, not other fellow forum members...KentMan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:57 pmThat doesn’t answer anything that’s just you guessing if Toyotaro knows about the movie planning or not. All these guys work together Toriyama works with Toyotaro since he started the Super manga.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:20 pm There's no reason for Toyo to be a part of DBS SH's planning, besides he has enough on his plate as it is. He probably is as curious as the rest of as, and asked Toriyama about it, also there must've been some pointers in order to not contradict the movie.
AFAIK, those characters aren't showing up in the movie. Those characters he draws have more chances of appearing or being referenced in his manga (like Bardock) rathen than in a project he has nothing to do with.
Also probably the OP should say if my post answered anything or not, after all he did ask what we thought, not what we know.
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That again makes no sense we know that Toyotaro works with Toriyama and no where did I say that any forum members would know anything about whether he knew the movie planning or not. I don’t know how you never read the interviews that basically answer yes him and the boss work together and they never butt heads.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:58 pmOf course it's me guessing, I'm not Toyo, Tori, nor know them in real life. I you wanted an actual, undisputable answer about what Toyo does or does not know, you should've addressed the producers, not other fellow forum members...KentMan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:57 pmThat doesn’t answer anything that’s just you guessing if Toyotaro knows about the movie planning or not. All these guys work together Toriyama works with Toyotaro since he started the Super manga.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:20 pm There's no reason for Toyo to be a part of DBS SH's planning, besides he has enough on his plate as it is. He probably is as curious as the rest of as, and asked Toriyama about it, also there must've been some pointers in order to not contradict the movie.
AFAIK, those characters aren't showing up in the movie. Those characters he draws have more chances of appearing or being referenced in his manga (like Bardock) rathen than in a project he has nothing to do with.
Also probably the OP should say if my post answered anything or not, after all he did ask what we thought, not what we know.
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I had started this discussion because I've noticed that since October of 2018 and January of 2019 (included) all Toyotaro did on his side project was to hype the upcoming "Broly" movie; that's the only months old streak he had done prior to sticking to the Other World Tournament Saga characters (sans Tapikar whom he drew on November of 2019) between March and August of 2021; which made me suspect he wasn't in on any of the movie's plannings.
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Considering how taxating a mangaka's schedule is, I doubt he has enough time to meet with producers, the DB Room, or discuss some other project besides his own manga, he is already planning the next arcs, so his meetings with Toriyama probably are about those new stories, and not about the upcoming movie.Geraldo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:14 am I had started this discussion because I've noticed that since October of 2018 and January of 2019 (included) all Toyotaro did on his side project was to hype the upcoming "Broly" movie; that's the only months old streak he had done prior to sticking to the Other World Tournament Saga characters (sans Tapikar whom he drew on November of 2019) between March and August of 2021; which made me suspect he wasn't in on any of the movie's plannings.
I don't think he was credited for the Broly movie, though.
I'd say it was just a coincidence, but those characters he draws could be part, in some way, of the manga eventually. Bardock already made it into DBS, and there are a lot of hints at existing characters. The anime Yadratians were included, too, even if the Yadratians ended up having different designs.
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Considering that Toyotaro is a gigantic part of the DBS canon, it doesn't make sense at all that he would somehow not be aware that there would be a movie coming out.
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Re: Was Toyotaro left in the dark regarding "Super Hero" or was it a ruse?
Toyo not knowing about SH would be a gigantic fuckup from the DBRoom: not saying he should have all the details of the plot, but at least the general outline of the events is basically a necessity
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No don’t listen to what others think Toyotaro would never be in the darkankokudaishogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:44 am Toyo not knowing about SH would be a gigantic fuckup from the DBRoom: not saying he should have all the details of the plot, but at least the general outline of the events is basically a necessity
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I wouldn't make sense for Toyotaro to be left in the dark but that wouldn't surprise me since the current arc is supposedly ending soon even though we barely got any worthwhile content.
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I don’t think he was left in the dark. Why should he? He’s quite important nowadays, what would be the reason not to give him the plot of Super Hero? It would be dumb, as he should know how to move in his stories without interfering with it.
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Re: Was Toyotaro left in the dark regarding "Super Hero" or was it a ruse?
Geraldo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:28 am Starting in with Olibu's drawing in his side project ("Toyotaro Drew It") in March of 2021, and up to the point Pikkon's drawing was released in that year's July, with the rest of the fighters from the Grand Kai's Planet tossed into it all at once, it felt as if Toyotaro was hinting that these folks would be related to the back-then-unknown movie. Do you think it was done on purpose or was Toyotaro left outside the movie plannings?
Toyotaro actually mentioned that he drew the series of Afterlife Tournament fighters as the real-world Tokyo Olympic games were approaching. In a sense, "do your best, athlets!"
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About him being left in the dark about Super Hero.. I guess he is up-to-date, as he might connects the Granolah arc with the movie and possibly the following arc (which we don't have details yet).
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...that is what I mean. Was it that unclear?KentMan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:06 pmNo don’t listen to what others think Toyotaro would never be in the darkankokudaishogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:44 am Toyo not knowing about SH would be a gigantic fuckup from the DBRoom: not saying he should have all the details of the plot, but at least the general outline of the events is basically a necessity
I mean, he's part-writer of the manga, At the very least the general outline of the movie is a literal necessity for him to know
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Chapter 82 will answer if Goku goes to Broly or not thus more than likely setting up eventsankokudaishogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:55 pm...that is what I mean. Was it that unclear?KentMan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:06 pmNo don’t listen to what others think Toyotaro would never be in the darkankokudaishogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:44 am Toyo not knowing about SH would be a gigantic fuckup from the DBRoom: not saying he should have all the details of the plot, but at least the general outline of the events is basically a necessity
I mean, he's part-writer of the manga, At the very least the general outline of the movie is a literal necessity for him to know
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Re: Was Toyotaro left in the dark regarding "Super Hero" or was it a ruse?
Those drawings aren't meant to hint at anything, he just picks characters from the series he has never drawn before and draws them. That's it.
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Toyotaro have never participated in the movies I don't see what's new