Kazuki Takahashi (YuGiOh creator) was a fan of Dragon Ball

[DragonBallFoodie]

He claimed it as one of his influences. While he was more strategic and far-thinking than Toriyama, the influence is clear.





RIP sir.

[Ssj3Engels]

"R.I.P.", I guess...

[mecha3000]

"R.I.P.", I guess...

I guess??? Really?

Anyway, RIP Kazuki Takahashi. Your legacy lives on.

[Grimlock]

From time to time, I go back to Yu-Gi-Oh!, whether to watch a bunch of episodes, play the games or listen to soundtracks... I have been doing all of them for these last weeks (as I managed to buy Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist and been playing it a lot). So to wake up this morning to this news is beyond words. Takahashi felt so close to me as I've been reading his name nearly everywhere.

I tend to say that Dragon Ball Heroes, specifically the Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission manga and that one special anime episode focusing on the kids playing the game, feels like a "polymerization" between the Dragon Ball and Yu-Gi-Oh! franchises to me, a perfect blend that I still hope they do more of those in the future, and to know that Takahashi himself was a fan of Dragon Ball makes me feel so connected to two of my beloved childhood series at the same time.

"Heartbreaking" isn't enough to describe this sad day and his passing. Hopefully we can maintain his legacy and that it lives on forever. May the King of Games rest in peace.

[mute_proxy]

R.I.P.

Which shonen mangaka isn't a fan of Dragon Ball though?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

Devastating news. I like many people my age grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh, it was my second favourite anime next to Dragon Ball. I loved the anime, manga and of course the card game. May Takahashi rest in peace, he's with Atem now.

[mecha3000]

And now shinzo abe has died. A tough week for japan. I know this isnt related to dragon ball, but my condolences to everyone affected by takahashi and abe's passings. Both icons taken tragically.

As for yugioh, i was never a fan but i do remember it was WAY bigger in the 2000s than it is now and my friends/family played and watched it so it was a presence in my life. And that english theme intro is iconic! Ill always treasure those memories and also cherish the time we have left with toriyama with us

[MasenkoHA]

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

[DBZAOTA482]

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yes, especially considering Kaiba isn't that much of an asshole in the Japanese version and the manga. Just a determined hard-worker.

[MasenkoHA]

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yes, especially considering Kaiba isn't that much of an asshole in the Japanese version and the manga.

I mean, he absolutely was a sociopathic asshole in the early manga. But I'm pretty sure he was toned down right when duel monsters became the sole focus of the story which means in the Duel Monsters anime he was only an asshole for the first episode.

[DBZAOTA482]

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yes, especially considering Kaiba isn't that much of an asshole in the Japanese version and the manga.

I mean, he absolutely was a sociopathic asshole in the early manga. But I'm pretty sure he was toned down right when duel monsters became the sole focus of the story which means in the Duel Monsters anime he was only an asshole for the first episode.

Atem literally destroyed the evil in his heart so of course... beyond that point, Kaiba is only really an asshole to Jonouchi which is understandable when you look at it from his perceptive.

[WittyUsername]

I remember Yu-Gi-Oh having been just as big a deal in the U.S. as Dragon Ball back in the day. It’s a bit of a shame that the franchise eventually just became little more than an excuse to promote the card game. The manga apparently isn’t even that big of a big seller. People are mostly familiar with the anime.

[DBZAOTA482]

I remember Yu-Gi-Oh having been just as big a deal in the U.S. as Dragon Ball back in the day. It’s a bit of a shame that the franchise eventually just became little more than an excuse to promote the card game.

Yu-Gi-Oh was one of the fastest growing media franchises back in the day so at its peak, it was arguably a bigger franchise than Dragon Ball though obviously the latter stood the test of time much more.

[Hellspawn28]

I haven't cared about Yu-Gi-Oh since 2005 and I try to get back into it, but they made the game way too crazy for me. This is still sad news considering that he still had friends, family, and a loyal fan base.

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yeah, it's pretty much a common trope in Shonen anime and manga.

Goku & Vegeta
Kenshiro and Shin
Guyver I & Guyver III
Yugi & Kiba
Ash & Gary
Naruto & Sasuke

There's probably more that I'm forgetting.

[Adamant]

Kaiba was clearly inspired by Vegeta.

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yes, especially considering Kaiba isn't that much of an asshole in the Japanese version and the manga. Just a determined hard-worker.

He built an entire amusement park and hired professional soldiers and an escaped mass murderer as "staff" just to get back at a kid for beating him in a card game once.

[MasenkoHA]

I remember Yu-Gi-Oh having been just as big a deal in the U.S. as Dragon Ball back in the day. It’s a bit of a shame that the franchise eventually just became little more than an excuse to promote the card game. The manga apparently isn’t even that big of a big seller. People are mostly familiar with the anime.

Tbf the franchise was an excuse to promote the card game the minute the more popular Duel Monsters tv series was made.

I get that Takahashi didn't create the manga to sell a card game, which was just one one of many "games" featured in the story for the first few years or so, but that is ultimately what it evolved into and that's why it was brought over to the States.

[jjgp1112]

They have nothing in common other than the vague rival archetype

Yes, especially considering Kaiba isn't that much of an asshole in the Japanese version and the manga. Just a determined hard-worker.

He built an entire amusement park and hired professional soldiers and an escaped mass murderer as "staff" just to get back at a kid for beating him in a card game once.

Well it had more to do with the death hallucinations Yami put him through than anything, but his game obsession is the root cause I suppose.

[Hellspawn28]

Funimation even try to dub Yu-Gi-Oh back in 1999, but nothing happen https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.an ... KdzYz-pzoJ

[MasenkoHA]

Funimation even try to dub Yu-Gi-Oh back in 1999, but nothing happen https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.an ... KdzYz-pzoJ

What's interesting is as best I can tell the Duel Monsters anime didn't start airing in Japan until April 2000 so either Funimation was trying to license the Toei tv series or they knew about the Duel Monsters anime going into production before it actually aired in Japan. Which I guess is possible? That seemed to be how it worked with Saban getting Digimon out in the US only 6 months after fuji tv started airing it in Japan.

[Dr. Casey]

What's interesting is as best I can tell the Duel Monsters anime didn't start airing in Japan until April 2000 so either Funimation was trying to license the Toei tv series or they knew about the Duel Monsters anime going into production before it actually aired in Japan. Which I guess is possible? That seemed to be how it worked with Saban getting Digimon out in the US only 6 months after fuji tv started airing it in Japan.

Yep, April 2000. By the time that thread was posted in November '99, Duel Monsters had almost definitely already been announced. Most anime tend to be publicly announced at minimum close to a year before they actually air.