Coolers revenge... after goku dies of the heart virus...

[TobyS]

I just noticed from the DB wiki they claim one of the Daizenshuus shoves the movie as happening during the android training... a year after the heart virus kills goku in cells, trunks, and the double trunks timeline.

How do you think this would have played out.

I can see it going one of two ways.

Events play out like in the movie, Cooler does not transform for the weaker vegeta.

Vegeta is trying to reflect the deathball and losing.

Piccolo Makansapos him perhaps during the ball struggle.

Or.

Someone anticlimatically tells him Goku is dead, and cooler just leaves.

How do you imagine it playing out, yes I know it's not canon.

[MasenkoHA]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking?

The movie fits mostly okay with the main series, better than the previous four at any rate Goku not using his instantaneous movement technique is probably the most glaring problem but these characters seem to forget techniques all the time.

[TobyS]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking?

The movie fits mostly okay with the main series, better than the previous four at any rate Goku not using his instantaneous movement technique is probably the most glaring problem but these characters seem to forget techniques all the time.

I mean the daizenshuu claims the year this movie would have taken place is the year after goku dies of the heart virus.

So this means in the 3 timelines goku dies of the heart virus cooler would come after he's already dead.

So I'm just asking how do you see the movie playing out sans goku (but with vegeta and everyone else left out)

[miguelnuva1]

Goku dies 6 months before the Androids appear and Cooler's revenge should happen right after Trunks appears.

Where does the daiz place it?

[GurixDr34]

I like to think that one of those movies takes place in Cell timeline or in GT timeline

[Shintoki]

Goku dies 6 months before the Androids appear and Cooler's revenge should happen right after Trunks appears.

Where does the daiz place it?

since the movies take place in their own dimension, i think it's fair to have cooler appear right after goku died and just leaving since the guy he come after just bloody hell died

[Vhanos]

The movie fits mostly okay with the main series, better than the previous four at any rate Goku not using his instantaneous movement technique is probably the most glaring problem but these characters seem to forget techniques all the time.

Another one is Gohan having the same hair as he did when he was on Namek. His hair wasn't the mushroom hair style when they went back to earth and Goku returned. And Gohan having a tail, which he no longer does after the Saiyan arc/saga.

[MasenkoHA]

The movie fits mostly okay with the main series, better than the previous four at any rate Goku not using his instantaneous movement technique is probably the most glaring problem but these characters seem to forget techniques all the time.

Another one is Gohan having the same hair as he did when he was on Namek. His hair wasn't the mushroom hair style when they went back to earth and Goku returned. And Gohan having a tail, which he no longer does after the Saiyan arc/saga.

It's not uncommon for parents to keep giving their kids the same stupid haircut. Chi Chi could have just cut his hair again.

Goku's tail grew back more than once and it took intervention from God (Kami Sama) for it to never grow back again. It's not really contradictory for Gohan to grow his tail back.


Yeah obviously Gohan has his bowl cut because that's what his hair looked like when the movie was produced and his tail is just there so Coola's men can identify him but it doesn't cause too much issue.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Another thing i've noticed is that Gohan's various haircuts through the series resemble Yamcha's to some degree, though i don't know if that was merely a coincidence on Toriyama's part or he intentionally reused those for Gohan because he liked them given unlike Goten (at least in the Buu arc) who inherited Goku's signature Saiyan hairdo at least until he was a teenager at End of Z post time skip.

[WittyUsername]

I can’t say I care for the idea of slotting Movie 5 in the three year wait for the artificial humans. Sure, I guess it technically works if you give some leeway, but that obviously wasn’t Toei’s intention. The movie was produced while the Freeza arc was coming to a close in the manga. That’s why the characters are sporting their Namek-era designs, and why Goku seemingly can’t go Super Saiyan at will.

If anything, I think it would make more sense to assume that Movie 5 takes place in a timeline where the Genki Dama was successful in killing Freeza, so Goku never became a Super Saiyan on Namek.

[miguelnuva1]

I can’t say I care for the idea of slotting Movie 5 in the three year wait for the artificial humans. Sure, I guess it technically works if you give some leeway, but that obviously wasn’t Toei’s intention. The movie was produced while the Freeza arc was coming to a close in the manga. That’s why the characters are sporting their Namek-era designs, and why Goku seemingly can’t go Super Saiyan at will.

If anything, I think it would make more sense to assume that Movie 5 takes place in a timeline where the Genki Dama was successful in killing Freeza, so Goku never became a Super Saiyan on Namek.

Movie 6 places M5 at the start of the Android trainning and even so Goku is confirmed to have killed Frieza with Super Saiyan in m5.

[MasenkoHA]

If anything, I think it would make more sense to assume that Movie 5 takes place in a timeline where the Genki Dama was successful in killing Freeza, so Goku never became a Super Saiyan on Namek.

Coola says he sees how Goku could beat Freeza after Goku turns Super Saiyan. And while it's given the majestic treatment with Messiah Toei Goku reviving the little bird,its not treated like it's the first time he's become a Super Saiyan. The Super Saiyan transformation on Namek definitely happened.