Kanzenshuu

It's pointless to argue with him, guys. He's locked himself into "I don't care" mode and isn't going to humor even plain logic.

Let's face it. Nobody is perfect. At the end of the day, most, if not all, of us have a personal connection to this franchise. A lot of times when other peoples views don't match with our own, we can't help but feel irritated or annoyed. Sometimes it comes out in nasty ways.We see this all the time ...

I can't take hokuten seriously. You're being really illogical, insisting that Vegetto can't carry over God Ki and is useless etc etc when we don't know that at all.

Here's what we know.

Base Goku (Buu) / Base Vegeta (Buu) < Base Goku + God Ki (FnF)/Base Vegeta + God Ki(FnF) < Hypothetical Vegetto ...

ssj4 is a potential unlock, so it will always be the strongest possible form that a saiyan can utilize.

GT gokus saiyan god form would be weaker than ssj4 since ssj4 unleashed all of the dormant power of his godly body.

This seems like a ridiculous thing to say.

SS4 and Super Vegeto were ...

I mean, I HATE superman, and I understand that sups would destroy Goku.

For Goku to have a prayer, it'd have to be a morals off, out of character match where Goku is willing to win via Instant Movement and take Sups to a planet under a red sun to depower him.

No, it's not different. It is literally exactly the same. Lmao.
No, it isn't. Beerus describes what happened to Goku's power. I don't understand how you interpret it like "You were trash before, you are trash again". If what you say was the case, then Beerus would have said "Your power decreased ...

I love how you say this like its a flat out, indisputable fact with no alternative, even though it's incredibly common for a speaker to use terms relative to himself/herself.

Do you expect everyone to add "to me" when they make statements about something be insignificant? There were numerous times ...

I understand what you are saying. I just think that this logic is false. Beerus wasn't talking about how he compares with God Goku & base/SS Goku, he was talking about how base/SS Goku compares to God Goku.

I love how you say this like its a flat out, indisputable fact with no alternative, even ...

"To Beerus" is the most important modifer in that sentence, and it's the only part you seemed to gently gloss over. If I'm a 6, yeah I'm leagues above a 4 or a 5.

If I'm a 10, the difference from a 6 and a 5/4 is going to be insignificant to me.
But this isn't what Beerus said, he said that Goku ...

If Goku is a 6 to Beerus' 10, and Goku drops to a 4/5 thats an insignificant difference to Beerus, yet represents a 16.66% or 33.33% change to Goku (respectively).
But a 4 or 5 is a significant decrease. For example, Vegeta was at 24.000 in Namek arc, and he was much stronger than Dodoria & Zarbon ...

He doesn't specify how could Goku transform into a God once again, so I think the most sense the ritual would make. Yeah, Goku did transform once again in the movie, but without knowing how he did it. I'm still more inclined to believe that wanted to point out that Goku is a prodigy to not need the ...

Vegeta [Earth/Namek]: Neutral Evil
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralEvil
Vegeta was out for power. He was more than willing to step on the little guy on his way, but he appeared to be serving an evil lord (Freeza) while looking to overthrow Freeza. As one of the defining ...

My impression?

Based on the slight explanations we've received about the forms, I get the impression that

(all percentages, except the first, are simply estimates. They show, however, where I think these powers/forms fall in order, just not to skill)
-The Ritual initially grants the recipient of ...

Is anyone else playing this game?

It's a neat time-sink and low-grade addictive. It's also pretty fun, as you can progress pretty meaningfully without paying anything into the game. It is a freemium game, though, so you will naturally be out-gunned by the whales who are pumping insane amounts of ...