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What the hell is even the point of Ultra Instinct if it can't even win the the one fight it has?

It's bad enough they replaced the more epic looking Omen for this but now it's not even going to win ? seriously, if they were going to have Goku lose why not just let him keep Omen if the end result ...

BlueBasilisk wrote:What the hell is even the point of Ultra Instinct if it can't even win the the one fight it has?

It beat Kefla.

Good chapter, but those rushed eliminations of Jimize and Katopesla are bad.

17 mvp of the chapter anyway.

I agree about Jimeze but how was Katopesla's elimination bad? Nink was eliminated the same way yet you don't say anything about him. Katopesla had nothing going for him. The anime just ...

So the raw is out.

I am kinda sad for Katopesla, Prum form the sniper duo and Jimeze to be already out before they do anything unlike the anime, I was looking forward to the mangas to see more about the side characters it doesn't look it will be the case.

Green wrote:

Did they really just leak it like that?

Meme finds a way.

Maybe it's just the light on the picture.

Is it me or sometimes the subtitle aren't exactly what they are saying in japanese?

I feel they add jokes or nicknames in place where they weren't.

ZombieVito wrote:

Lord Beerus wrote: He never was. He was just really strong.

He's base level IMO.

He could be SS tier though.

First form Freeza killed Piccolo( who is above namek Freeza) and beat a weak SSJ Gohan.

SSB Goku had him looking a little worn out and gave him PTSD during the recruitment arc

The spoilers also say 17 and Golden Freeza together will be pushing him.

Indeed but that is of very little information value. Remember, Golden Freeza and Ultimate Gohan couldn't defeat Dyspo without ...

Lord Beerus wrote:

Well... that went nowhere.

His ultimate form did reach the blue tier.
He managed to fight blue tier character like blue Goku, the robot fusion and now Dyspo.

The official twitter tweeted about the ending:
https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 4060643328

Really dislike this notion the DB fandom has taken of "in order to be important or very powerful, you must be hyped up or foreshadowed". Which is the reason the fanbase misunderstood Dispo's potential.
Yeah, especially since a lot of the first introduced character from an universe weren't the ...

Dyspo isn't alone, look like blue pride trooper has a restraining ability or something with his ropes.

Calling it, we'll be getting at least a "tie in" ending with Super that shows some first parts of GT, even if it is just something never seen before like Pilaf, Mai and Shu becoming old again, Kibitoshin returning or whatever. Or not even caring about that and just showing something like Goku ...

What is the problem? The power scale is so fucked up that we don't even know how strong the base saiyans are. Also, if SS2 Trunks was able to fight with SSB tier enemies, why can't Roshi be SS3 Gotenks tier as well?

Because Roshi hasn't beaten anyone that's SS3 Gotenks level of Power nor does he ...

We saw Tagoma beat Roshi, Tien with everyone.
And then Ssj Gotenks came and put Tagoma to the ground with one shot.
The show has already showed that Gotenks is superior to Roshi.

And base Goku also destroyed Roshi with a kamehameha.
ps: I like Roshi.

Arcs later we see Gotenks being trashed by ...

How?
If there isn't any stated slowing down from God mode but only thing stated is SSB is being stonger than God, it's the basic rule of stonger being more speedy
SSG has a skinnier body, I am just emetting a hypothesis that this form is faster and that it's the reason Goku use it against Dyspo ...

I am not saying that Blue has a speed reduction

I am saying that maybe SSG is faster.

How?
If there isn't any stated slowing down from God mode but only thing stated is SSB is being stonger than God, it's the basic rule of stonger being more speedy
SSG has a skinnier body, I am just emetting a ...

Blue is never said to be slower and it's literally SS, the form which is said to be the best overall
We know that Blue is stronger, we don't know how much, it could be close in the anime.
Maybe SSG could be a little faster with the skinny body, and it's why Goku use it against Dyspo who is very ...

Maybe it's faster and Dyspo is fast.
Blue is never said to be slower and it's literally SS, the form which is said to be the best overall
We know that Blue is stronger, we don't know how much, it could be close in the anime.
Maybe SSG could be a little faster with the skinny body, and it's why ...

Maybe it's faster and Dyspo is fast.