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by p-hyvo
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There is nothing to support Cell Games base saiyans can take Namek Freeza, Goku's base not even with the greatest kaioken was close back then. It is all speculation due to not ever in the arc seeing a base saiyan fight. Or in the Buu arc for that matter, except fodder like Pui Pui or Yakon who were...
by p-hyvo
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier
Replies: 26
Views: 352

Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

But the SSJ multiplier is never stated to change or get weaker in fact. When characters do better and what not that is due to them getting stronger. Case in point SSJ3 Goku being stronger in 17 arc then Majuub when last arc they were flipped. Gt gaps are just huge Gt gaps are sure huge, but they wo...
by p-hyvo
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:45 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11322
Views: 760840

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Well MSSJ has to have a multiplier of 50 because 50 is the multiplier used in every other source so I came up with this theory Yeah, the only exception to that Is grade 4 , that Is as strong as a regular ssj multiplier wise. But grades 2 and 3 are infact stronger as multipliers hmm so do you think ...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There is nothing to support Cell Games base saiyans can take Namek Freeza, Goku's base not even with the greatest kaioken was close back then. It is all speculation due to not ever in the arc seeing a base saiyan fight. Or in the Buu arc for that matter, except fodder like Pui Pui or Yakon who were...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier
Replies: 26
Views: 352

Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Yeah the gaps are big. Gt is weird and have Goku at Vegito level by GT the multipliers dont change and nothing shows that. Base Goku GT> Kid Buu>>most other characters No, not really. Going by scaling, everyone from the baby saga on Is stronger than everyone in z. Base baby saga Goten>Kid baby>baby...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34567
Views: 1471564

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

But Frieza's golden form is equal to God base Goku turning SSJ Blue. God transformations are broken and no way is the Golden Frieza form just 10x Frieza's base. By your logic Goku going from base to blue is an increase of 10x? that makes no sense. My point is SSJ god is already too much and if Goku...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11322
Views: 760840

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

thanks for the feedback! I thought Cell was still stronger than Gohan simply Gohan was stronger than Goku and was the only one at the time who can reach a new level of power(SSJ2). The grades were a working theory about how they work because I don't really agree with the grades receiving a boost la...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The grade multipliers
Replies: 6
Views: 177

Re: The grade multipliers

Well , grades have to be stronger than normal ssj as a multiplier. Simply do grade 2 = x60 or x62,5, and grade 3 = grade 2 X1,5 that's perfect.
Also, i forgot ti Say that grade 2 appears ti be quicker than standard ssj other than stronger, the only form with the Speed issue Is grade 3
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier
Replies: 26
Views: 352

Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

I dont know where your x40'000/x16'000 multipliers are from nor the SSJx2 comment, can you explain just so I understand better. Much appreciated. Also thanks for checking out my theory Gt perfect files explains that baby Vegeta's forma works like Saiyan transformations, with base being ssj, stronge...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34567
Views: 1471564

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Hmm that's really hard to say. Frieza's golden form has a boost that is equal to god base Goku turning SSJ Blue. SSJ Blue is 10x the strength of SSJ god if I'm not mistaken so I would say Golden Frieza for the sake of an easier answer is a similar boost. If so I would say he would at least Buuhan l...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:28 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11322
Views: 760840

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Alright well let's get it out of the way. These are not official and don't take them as fact. take this as my interpretation of comments and the manga itself. The way I will organize my power levels is by doing categories. No chronological order simply categories in which I detail every form of the...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We know Krillin insisted that she restrain herself lest someone get killed during the competition as he was heading off with everyone else to Babidi's. At first Mighty Mask was considered an anomaly, but still human from #18's perspective. She was able to avoid a projectile from their Super Saiyan ...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well in Super they slaughter no difficulty but in Z never in my opinion. should have clarified my bad The would even in buu saga, since base Goten and trunks could keep up with 18 in a fight in wich 18 had no reason to suprpess her power We know Krillin insisted that she restrain herself lest someo...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I see everyone is talking about power levels of Humans vs Frieza and so on. Here is my too sense. Please correct me on errors it will help with my upcomming project. I do not believe any base Saiyan or human can beat Frieza. I believe in saiyans never reach hundred million in base let alone one hun...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30983
Views: 1572786

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How does Ultimate Gohan and Android 17 stack up compared to everyone now? Neither are as strong as the current Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Gohan is stronger than Android 17 but after that it's all pretty vague. Like is Gohan stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku? Legendary Super Saiyan Kale? Super Saiya...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:40 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11322
Views: 760840

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Alright well let's get it out of the way. These are not official and don't take them as fact. take this as my interpretation of comments and the manga itself. The way I will organize my power levels is by doing categories. No chronological order simply categories in which I detail every form of the...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34567
Views: 1471564

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Hmm that's really hard to say. Frieza's golden form has a boost that is equal to god base Goku turning SSJ Blue. SSJ Blue is 10x the strength of SSJ god if I'm not mistaken so I would say Golden Frieza for the sake of an easier answer is a similar boost. If soo I would say he would at least Buuhan ...
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34567
Views: 1471564

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Koitsukai wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:12 pm
Freeza unlocks the Golden form in Namek.

Namek Golden Freeza vs Perfect Cell

Namek Golden Freeza vs Super Buu

Namek Golden Freeza vs Buuhan
Cell and the buus still win. There's ti much gap ti be filled by a possibly x50 boost on freezers side
by p-hyvo
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier
Replies: 26
Views: 352

Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

I have a theory on what the potential multiplier for ssj4 is if there is one. Now I know ssj4 is regarded as "Unleashing the full potential of the user" which sounds as though the power is dictated more by the person and not some sort of set boost like other forms. However if the form has a multipl...
by p-hyvo
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier
Replies: 26
Views: 352

Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

I have a theory on what the potential multiplier for ssj4 is if there is one. Now I know ssj4 is regarded as "Unleashing the full potential of the user" which sounds as though the power is dictated more by the person and not some sort of set boost like other forms. However if the form has a multipl...