Kanzenshuu

First: the Super anime is meaningless for power-level discussions, as only the Arcade is canon to the events. In the Arcade it's SS3FP Cumber&Super Hearts vs Jiren, Goku&Golden Metal Coola Trunks got a power-up in his Rage form. And we haven't been told how Fu managed to get him away from being erased

It's probably a waste of time to even think about it, but in the anime, was Jiren supposed to be the most skilled fighter ever on top of being the strongest? Yep. Anime Jiren is THAT overpowered. To be fair, though, he might not be the MOST skilled in the tournament. It's possible some of the other...

Blue progression should be looking more and more like God. Like, SSB-2 should have pupils, slim body and LESS spiky symbolizing it's God perfecting going Super Saiyan. Hell remove the aura, so Blue Evolution and Complete Blue from the manga can be "stepping stones" to Blue-2 as it combines their cha...

NEW ATTACK!
Gogeta:Xeno SS4 Kaioken's attack is Soul Judgement
(passive is Scarlet Burning Fighting Spirit)

Dark King Mechikabula's attack is Dark Judgement

Didn't get anything from this banner. But good luck to the rest of y'all. :thumbup: Your wish for good luck for us has been fulfilled by Shenron: LR Goku4, LR Vegeta4, INT Angel Freeza, AGL Turles, AGL Trunks GT, Toppo, TEQ #16(FighterZ), Vegeta Blue Evolution, plus a number of dupes and tons of SR...

I honestly don't know why Toriyama/Toei introduced yet another new Saiyan form in RoF. People didn't like SSGod. that's it. So they reverted to the ever-popular Super Saiyan design, but recolored it to sell it as a SSG upgrade. note how Blue even loses the trademark "slim" silhouette and pupil eyes...

Yes. Blue instead of Kaiohken would have been so much better! As alternative: Blue as a short-cut to the full power of God. Like, they can turn God\use God Ki but they only have a fraction of the power shown by the Ritual in BoG. They are even weaker than SS3 while on God Ki, because they need to re...

An interesting tidbit of the Italian release: Beside the theatrical dub, it also has the same dub with the TV names. And, most important, the subtitles aren't just the transcription of the dub(as way too often happens) but a whole different translation, with different terminology in some instances. ...

DNA wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 am

Xeno Goten never got past base, why would Xeno Pan be any different? Don't hold your breath.

Gote:Xeno just got Ultimate a few sets ago...


Also: the database sadly doesn't specify what form they are using, we need to wait for the cards being out and people publishing fotos\data of the back

Pan:Xeno will skip Super Saiyan and go straight to Ultimate.

Koitsukai wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:43 pm

I never understood why the anime had Goku and Vegeta eat the senzu before fusing (wasting one senzu) and the manga had the senzu be eaten after the fusing

IIRC in the anime they ate half senzu each.

which was promptly discarded as Freezer go to that level in 3 months

Zamasu55 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:43 pm

Nah mate, it's just like TFS Vegeta said: power levels are bullshit (in Heroes).

in heroes ANIME.

I'll wait for the arcade to see what they do

note well: the stronger ToP Goku had to go Blue Kaioken x20 after breaking his limits twice before he could be GoD-class At the very best, Buu-saga Vegetto could go SS3 and become 8 times as strong than Super Vegetto In the hypothesis Super Vegetto was about twice as strong as a Super Saiyan Blue->a...

And Boo Arc Vegito being stronger than the Blues as well as portrayed in Legends since Vegito was alluded to be superior to a Super Saiyan 4 in strength. The Legends material and Heroes do seem to be consistent with each other even if maybe by coincidence. Super Saiyan 4 was stated being equivalent...

MisteryOne wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:28 pm

Gogeta getting Kaioken before Goku himself seems kinda weird

if that's in fact Kaiohken, might simply be that Goku's body cannot sustain SS4+Kaiohken, while Gogeta's can.

While it's SDBH and always weird, Golden Metal Cooler seemed to pretty definitively be stronger than SS3 Cumber in the latest episode, albeit at the cost of overheating pretty easily. Anyone have anything from the manga or games to contextualize this? Arcade isn't updated to those events yet. Ignor...

or, you know.
Goku favoring skipping SS3 and SSG and go Blue for anything stronger than SS2 unless he's showcasing or saving stamina.

Goku underestimating Berserker Kale(or at least her continuous growth in power) and Holding Back(C) too much would explain everything much more cleanly

Pan xeno(as far as manga lore goes) is pan directly from the shadow/evil dragon arc of GT. Hope this clears things up for you. Are we SURE she's from GT Shadow Dragon? Because from what I remember of the manga summaries, they met her after the Dark Gogeta shenanigans in GT World, but it wasn't stat...

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:41 am

Where are you guys getting she looks older?

might be the different pose and\or clothes, but she looks taller, if not much