Kanzenshuu

Woah, man. There's no need to get insulting. desirecampbell may have lost his temper back there-- definitely, I think he could have handled himself a little better than he did-- but he absolutely was not attaking you directly . I can see it, and I think everyone else can too. So there's no reason ...

Shut the fuck up about the speed shit! For Christ's sake, maybe - just maybe - they weren't talking literally . Maybe he just did it much quicker than they expected.

FUCK! *Calm down, Des, calm down. Breathe in - breathe out.*

Seriously man. What is your question? "Is Guy_1 stronger than Guy_2 ...

So why did he depower and try to fly away with Freeza still alive?

Uh... I am talking about the fight when Goku first transformed into a Super Saiya-jin. We already know at the end of the fight Freeza's Ki was rapidly decreasing and Goku no longer had any desire to fight him.

Um... yeah? Freeza ...

Goku hits Freeza six times (three punches, one elbow, one kiai, one headbutt) before Freeza attacks Namek. Meanwhile, he's chatting with Freeza and linviting Freeza to hit him with ki attacks, then laughing at him when those attacks fail. That's not the actions of someone in a blind fury.

Goku ...

Goku was holding back against non-100% Freeza. If he had used his full power, he could have killed Freeza just as quickly as Trunks later did.

Oh really? I couldn't notice that, especially when an ENRAGED Goku PHYSICALLY beating Freeza to death after blowing up his best friend, yeah he was ...

And where exactly does it state that Goku wasn't holding back either?

I have to say...you're really dense. Based on all of the evidence we've given you, you still don't get it.

And to reply to your last post..Freeza WASN'T AT FULL POWER when facing Trunks, and was CAUGHT OFF GUARD .

Uh.. Goku ...

Goku only had a small amount of trouble against Freeza on Namek while Freeza was at Full Power. I just scanned through the manga...Freeza only got two good hits on Goku at Full Power. One being his first punch at full power, and the blow that blew Goku in the water. Plus, Freeza's full power only ...

Bull. Trunks did nothing that SSJ Goku on Namek couldn't have done.

Oh really?

Trunks EASILY handed an upgraded Freeza his ass while holding back. I recall Son Gokuu having trouble with a weaker Freeza on Namek. :roll:

We know Gokuu became stronger after the fight but I doubt no stronger than ...

Well I have to go with Trunks in this case. Trunks EASILY killed Freeza and his Father.The way Trunks killed them was above anything that Goku has done.

I ask because when Future Trunks tests Goku with his sword Goku blocks it with just his finger but then states that Trunks was not trying.

Who was stronger between the two?

Thanks for the heads up!.

I see! So Goku can use it at will when in battle, but he put two fingers to his head to concentrate to find where he is going.

So everything is instant the thought proces of using this technique wow.

What horrible grammer/spelling. Of course this is nothing new for superstar.

Wow, so I made a ...

I see! So Goku can use it at will when in battle, but he put two fingers to his head to concentrate to find where he is going.

So everything is instant the thought proces of using this technique wow.

Yeah, their are lots of instances where Goku doesn't even put two fingers to his head and uses Shunkan Idou!

When he first arrives out of the Room of Spirit and Time Goku just uses the technique to go see Cell face to face!

So does that mean that their is no DELAY when using this technique, and he ...

Hi, (yes it is a legitimit question) I was wondering about how does Goku use this technique?

We see Goku in the canon manga use the Shunkan Idou without putting two fingers to his head!

Sometimes when he travels long distances he puts the two fingers to his head!

My question is can Goku use the ...

BrollysKin wrote:[Oh my God....

Translation: I really have nothing to say to refute Super Star's statement.

I don't think it has anything to do with different times, that sounds kind of lame.

The real reason is because it was supposed to be an epic final battle so it had to be long (and even longer in the anime) but if you're looking for an explanation in the story. I'd say Freeza underestimated the ...

It's got to be somewhere!

All I need VegettoEX or anyone who has the Daizenshuu's to do is go look in Daizenshuu 2 at the battle scenes and see if any info concerning speed is being stateed in the "In Depth Battle scenes." Daizenshuu book 2. Radditz, and especially Freeeza and Goku's Super Speed ...

I die a little inside as well when a Dragonball fan of little faith makes comments like these.

Hey, it never hurts to ask and try!

Who knows it might come up someone may find something!

Yeah I can post links to the Forums where their are threads going over 50 plus pages of flaiming on DBZ speed and powers! Saying that everyone can beat them especially Superman and various others. It is bad and harsh criticism.

I just need something official from the Daizenshuu's or the Anime Guide ...