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Goku tanked a flamethrower in the RR arc iirc.

That's a good question, imo i could see shenron doing something like forcibly re-joining Piccolo and Kami if they made a wish like that.

oh wow, thought I posted it there, but does it seem sound?

The best speed feat put ssj3 tier characters at mach 1000+,[the speed of solar wind iirc] so what this topic basically tries to do is guess at how fast characters are that are weaker and stronger than ssj3.[*Note, this assumes powerlevels do not scale linearly with strength/speed, ie: having twice ...

/\This, why is it so hard to believe that he was just suppressing his ki?

Super 17 was beaten by exploiting a weakness iirc.

I think you're looking way too deep into this.

I like the points Chibi made, they make a lot of sense.

On Topic though, GT Base Goku would have to be at least 10 times stronger than Z Goku to overwhelm Majin Buu at SSJ just look at these figures:

Z Goku Base: 1
Z Goku SSJ3: 400

GT Goku Base: 10
GT Goku SSJ: 500

Although this is just how it ...

Nah GT is all powerscaling, Gotenks is the only guy in DB with feats.

Rocketman, you're looking a little too deeply into this imo. This is the same series that has talking dogs and cats, it doesn't have to make sense.

No love for black Gohan??? Suggestions for buffs/nerfs you'd like to see?

Nam, he just didn't get enough screen time imo

Yeah, in all actuality, Gotenks was probably stronger than Goku, but as a fan I just dont like the idea of Goku's new hax transformation being weaker than a fusion of two 7 year olds.

All Buu saga DBZ characters are class 100+ imo, it takes a lot more strength to punch and kick with 40 tons on your body than to just flat out bench it. For example I can bench 165 lbs fairly easily, but I'm not Swinging my arms around with even half of that on them. It be a big effort to try and do ...

Something I saw on the Shi shi rendan boards inpspired me to start this, I think it was Naruto UNH 3 rebalanced or somthing like that, one of the members went into the game and messed with the coding to rebalance it. For now, I'm focusing on this project, I'm taking pre calc right now and some other ...

Technically it doesn't have to have been a "supernova sized explosion", does it? The common way of detecting a supernova is that they're bright. The ki from their fight could have been as luminous as a supernova without actually being a supernova, because ki's funny like that.
True but this is DB ...

Depends, pre or post op? Because other than Cyborg Tao's obvious superiority, there's really no implication that one was stronger than the other.

Rocketman wrote:

Kaboom wrote:"Goku and Vegeta cause supernova-sized explosions during their final battle"

No sir, I don't like it.

You're about to get mondo dissed...take it back.

Hellspawn28 wrote:So who in Dragon Ball would be a good match up for Nova (Richard Rider)?

DBO Vegetto, if we use powerscaling, Vegetto could hypothetcially make that supernova feat SSJ or SSJ2 Goku has look infinitely smaller in comparison to what he can do.

The crater looks more like a flat out hole, but still punching someone to the moon is pretty hardcore no one in DB except maybe Vegetto could even begin to replicate somthing like that.[If you assume potara fusion is AxB]