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by LunarMoon
Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I find Goku to be the worst character in this show
Replies: 561
Views: 93630

Re: Goku is officially the worst character in this show


Gokuu isn't a real person, he's a character in fiction. He doesn't have to be the sort to really care about that sort of thing, especially when he isn't actually responsible for the act you are accusing him of. It's okay to like characters who go against real-world morality. That's the very ...
by LunarMoon
Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is Akira Toriyama trying to make us hate Goku?
Replies: 153
Views: 23445

Re: Is Akira Toriyama trying to make us hate Goku?

Oh come now. Goku enjoys fighting, but not wiping out civilizations.

Episode 78 set up the precedent that Goku doesn't care about causing the death of zillions as long as he can get a good fight out of it, which is what Raditz promised.

But hey, who am I to interrupt the sociopath Goku ...
by LunarMoon
Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is Akira Toriyama trying to make us hate Goku?
Replies: 153
Views: 23445

Re: Is Akira Toriyama trying to make us hate Goku?

I feel like if we had this Goku throughout the series, he would fight Raditz, not save his son, but because it'd be fun to fight.

If we had this Goku throughout the series, he wouldn't have needed to kidnap Gohan in the first place because Goku would have taken Raditz up on his offer.

https ...
by LunarMoon
Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:56 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Goku's "OOC" moments are compensation
Replies: 45
Views: 7663

Re: Goku's "OOC" moments are compensation

Of course I'm not defending Goku here, he did feel like an utter asshole. But I personally think he's a better character for it. We started disliking Walter White after a certain point too for things he did, but it just added to his complexity.
Walter White cared deeply for his friends and family ...
by LunarMoon
Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Bulma or Chi Chi?
Replies: 44
Views: 17450

Re: Bulma or Chi Chi?

Bulma, hands down. Built a time machine, invented the dragon radar, helped build the faster-than-light drive for the trip to Namek, created the android-deactivation device, and repaired an alien spacecraft when she was five years old, surpassing her father by performing a feat that he was unable to ...
by LunarMoon
Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:11 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Pui-Pui?
Replies: 64
Views: 17712

Re: How strong is Pui-Pui?


He said that about a suppressed Goku.

"As you are now, you wouldn't be able to defeat Freeza. You transform, right?"
"Yep."
(becomes a super saiyan)

We have never seen a base saiyan take out an opponent who was above Frieza. Best feat we've seen from of any base saiyan is found in Goku's ...
by LunarMoon
Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Pui-Pui?
Replies: 64
Views: 17712

Re: How strong is Pui-Pui?


I just answered that question. He can't sense energy.
Kaioshin sensed Gohan's energy at the world tourney, he also was the first one to sense Goku turning SSJ3 from otherworld. And even if he can't (though he can) surely he can just watch the performance of Pui Pui and compare it to himself, and ...
by LunarMoon
Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

Although that's not to say he won't help someone if he sees they need it but he doesn't actively go look for people to help like Gohan does.

This I agree with. He helps out characters such as Turtle, and cares about doing so, and will risk his life against characters such as Majin Vegeta to stop ...
by LunarMoon
Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

At the same time, Goku's motives are much closer to Vegeta than they are to, say, a self-declared "champion of justice" like Videl.
Vegeta was straight-up evil, and ended up literally killing more people than Hitler. Most people’s morals are far closer to those of Videl than to those of Pre-Buu ...
by LunarMoon
Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Pui-Pui?
Replies: 64
Views: 17712

Re: How strong is Pui-Pui?

Roughly as high as 18,000, but as low as 1,500. The guy bragged about training in 10x Earth's gravity before being toyed with by Vegeta in his base.

Weaker than final form Freeza for sure. He MIGHT be stronger than one or all of the first three forms, but there's nothing substantial supporting it ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

Goku sometimes displays "do-gooder" motivation, but it always ultimately seems to lose out to his desire to fight strong guys.

It only really lost out with Vegeta and Piccolo. You're thinking of Vegeta, who actually became infamous for it, and almost more trouble than he was worth, by constantly ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:52 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

And why would it be? He'd obviously prefer to fight someone strong without his friend dying, but that doesn't mean fighting isn't number one on his list. Toriyama stated this a few posts up. Read dbzfan7's post.

"Number 1" on his list implies that when push comes to shove, he'll choose one over ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

How do you know that? Yes, Goku wanted to avenge his friend, but as a whole fighting is his number 1 priority. Toriyma himself said that.

Toriyama said that fighting is his number 1 priority? Where did he say that? His friend died and he got to fight a challenging opponent in exchange. Nothing ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

I really don't see how you come to that conclusion. Just because he cares more about improving himself than his family and friends, doesn't mean he's exactly like Vegeta prior to the Buu arc. You also seem to be under this impression that Goku can't care about others while still caring more about ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

I really don't see how you come to that conclusion. Just because he cares more about improving himself than his family and friends, doesn't mean he's exactly like Vegeta prior to the Buu arc. You also seem to be under this impression that Goku can't care about others while still caring more about ...
by LunarMoon
Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:19 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

Re: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

I doubt if a murder would to kill 80 people...I doubt Goku would care unless the murder is a strong foe. GreatSaiyaman MIGHT care. But Goku would't.


http://thedaoofdragonball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/majin-vegeta-kills-audience-dbz.jpg

Killing people for kicks and giggles is a great way ...
by LunarMoon
Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"
Replies: 36
Views: 7394

"Goku Only Cares About Fighting (And Food)"

Is complete and utter rubbish that an extremely large number of dub detractors appear to believe, many of whom will hyper focus on his motivation for sparing of Vegeta whilst ignoring every piece of characterization that had occurred throughout the previous 240 chapters of the manga. The common line ...