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by ZombieVito
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I would like try to some more versus matches... 1. Goku (post-Saiyan arc, healed; can only go up to Kaioken x3), Gohan (from Ginyu-Goku fight), and Krillin (from Ginyu-Goku fight) vs Vegeta (from Recoome fight) vs Zarbon (monster form), Dodoria, and Ginyu-Goku 2. Tao Pai Pai (from RRA arc) vs Akkum...
by ZombieVito
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Current UI Omen Goku vs Full Power Broly Base Gotenks (Post-Rosat) vs Android 16 Base Vegito (Black arc) vs Android 17 (ToP anime) SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs SSJ2 Kefla Base Gogeta (Early Android arc) vs Semi-Perfect Cell Broly after a good fight. 16 finger flicks. Vegetto one shots him. Kefla powers down...
by ZombieVito
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So how strong was Beerus when he woke up? his initial power I mean, the least strong Beerus known to man, before taking things seriously vs Vegeta and vs SSG. I'm talking about the power he used vs SS3 Goku at King Kai's. It wasn't that much power because SS2 Vegeta managed to land some hits and pu...
by ZombieVito
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 26
Views: 462

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

Whis ko'ed Beerus with one attack, Gogeta played around with Broly and was never touched. Goku later says Broly might be as strong as Beerus. How is my estimation out of my ass. I was unable to find a single statement that said Gogeta wasn't at max power while fighting Broly. Also that Whis example...
by ZombieVito
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 26
Views: 462

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

Well since base Gogeta is Blue tier and needed to go to Blue to beat someone on the level of Beerus then MUI is stronger than Blue by around the amount Blue is stronger than base. So a really fucking big difference. No, Gogeta needed to go Blue to embarrass and not be touch by someone Beerus level ...
by ZombieVito
Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 26
Views: 462

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

Well since base Gogeta is Blue tier and needed to go to Blue to beat someone on the level of Beerus then MUI is stronger than Blue by around the amount Blue is stronger than base.

So a really fucking big difference.
by ZombieVito
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Hit and Super Saiyan Rage Trunks vs. God of Destruction Top/Toppo Toppo murders them in a second. 1. Moro (pre absorbing 7/3, no absorbing) vs Jiren 100%? 2. Vegeta (Current) vs UI Goku (3rd omen, Top)? Jiren. Even 1st Omen Goku wins. Ultimate Gohan (Buu saga) vs. Super Saiyan 2 Trunks (Zamasu saga...
by ZombieVito
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Android 20 (Initial) vs Future SSjin Trunks (Debut) Trunks is stronger but he doesn't know Gero can absorb energy so that might make him lose at the end. more fights 1) FT arc SSB Goku (1st appearence, the one that fought next to SS Trunks) vs U6 arc SSBKK Goku (regular kaioken) (if FT arc Goku win...
by ZombieVito
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

-New Battles- 1. 7/3 (Gohan, not injured) vs 17 (Moro)? 2. 17 (Buu saga) vs Super Buu (17 was able to dodge Buu’s extinction attack)? 3. UI omen Goku (eps. 116) vs GoD Toppo? 4. Saganbo vs FP Blue Vegeta (ToP, Manga)? 5. G. Frieza (RoF, no stamina issues) vs SsjB Copy Vegeta? 7/3 would have Gohan's...
by ZombieVito
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Correct me if I'm wrong (since I last read the manga like 3 years ago), but didn't Future Zamasu in the manga dodge a few punches from SSB Goku at one point? I'd say that puts his reaction speed relative to SSB Goku, meaning that he shouldn't have too much trouble reacting to anything Buu throws at...
by ZombieVito
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35046
Views: 1666648

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Just had this in mind concerning Present Zamasu and maybe Future Zamasu. You know the whole 'prodigy Supreme Kai fighter' thing. I don't remember if these match ups have been made before but it's worth a try. Grand Supreme Kai vs Present Zamasu South Supreme Kai vs Present Zamasu West Supreme Kai v...
by ZombieVito
Sun May 31, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

My point was meant to show that Fused Zamasu did not have his own unique soul, because otherwise Infinite Zamasu would have the saiyan hair. This was in reference to when you said that, if Vegito was anything to go by, the fused being has their own soul and is not just a vessel for one of the fusee...
by ZombieVito
Sun May 31, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fused Zamasu only had Zamasu's soul, as evidenced by the fact that Infinite Zamasu (i.e. the manifestation of his soul) appeared as the normal, immortal Zamasu. No sign of Black at all. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/a/a7/Formless_Immortal_Zamasu.png/revision/latest?cb=201708...
by ZombieVito
Sun May 31, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do you mind explaining why you think so? Because that's literally what fusion is. Vegetto's body isn't a vessel for Goku and Vegeta's minds to inhabit. He's a completely separate being born into the world when they fuse. If what you said was right then when Elder Kaioshin died he should have defuse...
by ZombieVito
Sat May 30, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’ve seen a theory that tries to explain why Zamas’ body was done in by Trunks using the genkidama power-up. Basically, it works with the assumption that Vegetto’s final kamehameha “killed” Goku Black’s half, which made Zamas weak enough. What do you think? That's not how fusions work at all. There...
by ZombieVito
Fri May 29, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yes. For all intentions and purposes, Merged Zamasu was up there. In the ToP scale, somewhere below 1st Omen Goku and Supressed Jiren. Ofc Vegito being above him. I personally don't have Giant Corrupted Fused Zamasu under even 2nd Omen Goku. While his normal Corrupted form I do have under Kefla, Go...
by ZombieVito
Thu May 28, 2020 11:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yes. For all intentions and purposes, Merged Zamasu was up there. In the ToP scale, somewhere below 1st Omen Goku and Supressed Jiren. Ofc Vegito being above him. I personally don't have Giant Corrupted Fused Zamasu under even 2nd Omen Goku. While his normal Corrupted form I do have under Kefla, Go...
by ZombieVito
Thu May 28, 2020 6:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786653

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

While it's clear that Fused Zamasu was no match for SSB Vegito in the manga, does the fact that Vegito had to go SSB prove that Fused Zamasu was easily above Base/SSJ Vegito? And I may say that Vegito was playing in the whole fight. In their first clash, he just played along until he could use the ...
by ZombieVito
Wed May 27, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1359

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

Mad Swami wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 4:25 am
Zamasu just fought like anyone else.
So is anyone else fight as a literal shield?
by ZombieVito
Tue May 26, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1359

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

My problem is just Zamasu and Black I feel never did anything interesting. They were just villains who eventually fuesed. The most different thing about them was Black's rapid growth in power showcasing new applications of Saiyan biology and godly moves which was cool. I think they needed conflict ...