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by ZombieVito
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 796

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

Also, I want to point out that after Vegito punched Zamasu into that building, Zamasu immediately got back up and was ready for the Final Kamehameha. If Vegito was so much superior to Zamasu, he wouldn't have recovered so quickly and he would have lost a limb or two as well, like in the manga. Dude...
by ZombieVito
Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 796

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

BagetaSama wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:14 pm
...how does that prove he took damage after the power-up?
Because he didn't have them when he and Giant Fused Zamasu are clashing fists.
by ZombieVito
Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Gohan and Kuririn are terribly low lol.

They are suppose to be the strongest after Vegeta and Piccolo when Mecha Freeza arrives.
by ZombieVito
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Just because a character says they can beat someone doesn't mean they could (especially an arrogant one like Freeza, who said in both versions that he could beat Jiren lmao). And while we're at it, SSB Goku didn't really do much to Base Toppo (who was supressed) at the preliminaries either, so noth...
by ZombieVito
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ofcourse Manga Gohan is lesser than MUI Goku, but nothing says he's weaker than Manga Freeza (who's in no way equal to MUI Goku, nor even CSSB Goku based on their Kale fight). And there's nothing in the anime that says 17 & Gohan where weaker than Freeza, nor anything that says Freeza could take on...
by ZombieVito
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?
Replies: 7
Views: 153

Re: How Much Weaker Was First Form Frieza During Planet Vegeta's Destruction?

He's the same.

Freeza said he never trained in his life in RoF so he has the same power since birth.
by ZombieVito
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34555
Views: 1466214

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Let's have some Piccolo matches. Piccolo [Cell Games arc] vs SSG2 Vegeta [Post 1st RoSaT]. Piccolo [Cell Games arc] vs SS Goku [Post RoSaT; When he displayed his "around half power" to Korin]. Piccolo [Boo arc] vs Perfect Cell [vs SSG2 Vegeta/SSG3 Future Trunks]. Piccolo [Beerus arc] vs Cell Junior....
by ZombieVito
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 796

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

There is EVERY indication Fused Zamasu was weaker than Vegetto at the time, following his power-up, Vegetto did not take a single hit and knocked Zamasu around easily, like hitting him into that building etc. This is false. Vegetto has scratches on him when he teleports to hit Fused Zamasu in the f...
by ZombieVito
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ofcourse Manga Gohan is lesser than MUI Goku, but nothing says he's weaker than Manga Freeza (who's in no way equal to MUI Goku, nor even CSSB Goku based on their Kale fight). And there's nothing in the anime that says 17 & Gohan where weaker than Freeza, nor anything that says Freeza could take on...
by ZombieVito
Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There's a lot that disproves it. Goku only uses Kaioken when he absolutely needs to. Both Gohan and 17 proved that they are at least a little better than SSB Goku at the start of the ToP through their fights with Goku. Plus, Manga Gohan matching Kefla is better than anything Freeza did in either ve...
by ZombieVito
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The preview is before the actual ToP begins so it obviously doesn't take into account SSBE and it's fairly obvious it also doesn't take into account Kaioken. There's nothing in the ToP that disproves it as well. There's nothing in the show itself that says that Toppo is stronger than Blue. Goku usin...
by ZombieVito
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34555
Views: 1466214

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

More fights -Burta vs Jeece -Burta vs Reecome -Jeece vs Reecome -Reecome, Burta, Jeece vs Ginyu -Ginyu Tokusentai vs Cooler Kikousentai (that is 5 vs 3) -Future Zamasu (no immortality) vs DBS 17. - Super17 arc SS2 Gogeta vs Super 17 (after killing 18 and Kid Goku) -FT arc Vegito Blue vs ToP SSBKKx2...
by ZombieVito
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Keep in mind that while Vegeta is weaker, the difference between them shouldn't be significant. At the lowest I would put him at a 9.5 to Goku and Freeza's 10.
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11316
Views: 757910

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Mad Swami wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:29 pm
ZombieVito wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:23 pm
I think 16 and Semi Cell are too close to eachother. The latter tanked the formers punch to the face after all.
fair, will fix. Thanks
No problem. Also props for not bloating everything up by having Gotenks low. People way overrate him.
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11316
Views: 757910

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I think 16 and Semi Cell are too close to eachother. The latter tanked the formers punch to the face after all.
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 796

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

BagetaSama wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:48 am
No he doesn't. He just talks about being faster, which he is, upon releasing his full-power.
Vegetto especially says Zamasu can't keep up with his speed.
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

....Why would Vegeta be weaker than Golden Freeza? Confirmed by official previews. Okay what are you talking about? Care to link it or something? Prior to Goku achieveing Ultra Instinct -Sign-, Frieza and Goku were tied for the No. 1 spot on Team Universe 7 in terms of power. https://pbs.twimg.com/...
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 796

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

I mean there's actually a sequence in the anime where, Vegetto does a power-up sequence where they zoom out and his aura gets larger and white lightning surrounds him, I would imagine this is to suggest that he is going full-power. After that scene, Vegetto dominates the fight in the anime too He d...
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

BagetaSama wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:33 am
....Why would Vegeta be weaker than Golden Freeza?
Confirmed by official previews.
by ZombieVito
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:08 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30954
Views: 1567052

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The narrator said Gohan rivaled Blue Goku so that puts him anywhere between 80-100% of Goku. Me personally, I put him at 80 since him and 17 failed to do anything to Toppo. The question is whether Toppo is relative to SSBKK or just SSB, because the Exhibition Match seems to suggest that, and Vegeta...