Kanzenshuu

There are limitations to Kai Kai, otherwise Nahare would be able to teleport to from earth to demon world at will. In demon world Nahare couldn't teleport to the location that he wanted, he needed Warp to get to his location.

If Nahare couldn't use Kai Kai to get from earth to demon world, then ...

SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 6:26 am
Okay then why is Super Saiyan 3 the same color as 1 and "powered 1/Super Saiyan 2"?

Is Super Saiyan 3 also just a "powered up version of Super Saiyan 1"?

Yep! To quote Toriyama directly:

Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan.

I also think, although it's not a visual thing but a storyline thing, that people don't notice how against Freeza, Toriyama sets a growing sense of despair as he takes every idea that the reader (even as a kid) would have, cranks it up to 11 just to tell you "sorry, doesn't work AT ALL even when ...

I definitely feel like the first time transforming into a super saiyan just rejuvenated Goku. He couldn't even move himself unsupported after the genki dama, and yet was basically totally fine while in base form later in the fight. Him and Freeza both seem to be pretty close to their full potential ...

On a side-note, this is the direct consequence of taking Dragon Ball as an apolitical, unserious work of art with terrible amoral protagonists and nothing to teach to its audience: Using its imagery as a display of dumb brute strength.


The Trump admin has used art and music, overtly political ...

It should be remade exactly the same except SSJ4 is updated to have Daima's design

I feel like if Super continues up to Granolah, it will for sure reference the broader cosmology that Daima introduced, because that arc in the manga already mentions that Namekians originally come from another dimension. I'd imagine maybe just a 5 second visual flashback to namekians on their ...

I really really love Toriyama's SSJ4 illustration. It definitely puts it ahead of the original design now (I could never decide before which one I preferred). It's much better than the anime design sheet.

I can not WAIT to see ultra instinct animated with similar production quality to Daima. Hell yesssss

For other modern projects, we're always hearing lines about sticking to Toriyama and very rarely seeing or hearing about letting a director lead a project. The least bland piece of Super Hero—aside from the Piccolo-heavy dialogue scenes, which would have been scripted by Toriyama—was the decision ...

Genki does seem weird. If it's just straight up a certain percentage of someone's energy, it makes no sense that Goten and Trunks didn't fuse beforehand before donating theirs. Who's to say each living being doesn't just have similar amounts of genki, so it's always more of a numbers game than ...

I think Goku only specifying that he could have beaten fat boo is pretty solid proof that Toriyama didn't retcon anything in the manga. Otherwise why specify?

Absolutely agreed that this has been retconned in the revival era though.

I'm keen for another Super manga arc because I do have quite a big curiosity on what a Toyotaro Super arc will look like with absolutely 0 Toriyama input. I don't have high hopes for it but I certainly want him to have a shot.

The quality of animation in that commercial was honestly really really nice. Looks both modern and 90s at the same time. If a new Dragon Ball series looked like that I would be stoked.

But now I'm actually confused. Was it made with AI? Is it some sort of upscale of the original anime?

I have so much nostalgia for Super, I even have a nostalgia of the copium. That's right, I have nostalgia of spring/summer 2019 when everyone was sure the anime would return


Lmao, I love this. That's just not a thing I would have expected someone to be nostalgic over and I love it.

Super anime ...

Reading this quote again, there is just absolutely no way to interpret this as anything other than Goku on namek being stronger than Freeza's full potential on namek:

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: “The Earthlings don’t matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by ...

Freeza's 2nd transformation (the xenomorph one) being stronger than SSJ Goku is just straight up one of if not THE most nonsensical power level statements I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of nonsensical stuff over the years! I don't know if I've seen anyone anywhere have that opinion.


I’m ...

DB Multiverse, DBZ Abridged, and Dragon Ball Evolution are my holy trinity.

Bonus points to the original DB manga since it started it all, I guess. It walked to allow the other things I mentioned to soar!

Do they remember their real names? Their new names seem to pretty imprinted onto them. There's no reason they would have even started using them otherwise

What if Babidi actually managed to fully control Vegeta?