The fusions between Goku and Vegeta

BROLEROT · Post by **BROLEROT** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:05 pm

Gotenks was the fusion between two super saiyans and he was able to reach ss3 . Vegetto and Gogeta were fusions made from a ss3 combining with a ss2.How far would people say Gogeta and Vegetto could transform if they were desperate ?At that stage could they have had enough power to turn ss4 or with their tails removed would they have only been able to become a really powerful ss3?

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:41 pm

How many threads are you going to create? Multiple forum members have notified you that your spelling and grammar is very poor. Please re-read the forum rules that you obviously skipped.

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Magica · Post by **Magica** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:47 pm

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Gotenks was the fusion between two Super Saiyans, and he was able to reach Super Saiyan 3. Vegetto and Gogeta were fusions made from a Super Saiyan 3 combining with a Super Saiyan 2. How far would people say Gogeta and Vegetto could transform if they were desperate? At that stage could they have had enough power to turn Super Saiyan 4, or with their tails removed would they have only been able to become a really powerful Super Saiyan 3?

Now see? That wasn't so hard to type out in full grammatical sentences.

And doesn't Gogeta already turn Ssj4 anyway?

BROLEROT · Post by **BROLEROT** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:35 pm

For the love of god it's not that bad . It's quite clear what I mean .I am not making these mistakes to piss people off .

BROLEROT · Post by **BROLEROT** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:37 pm

I meant the Gogeta From the rebirth of fusion movie.

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:51 pm

Dude double posts are a no, no. To answer your question I'm going to go with they might have been able to go SSJ3, who knows nobody can be sure on questions like these. On the other hand though, when Goten and Trunks transformed into Gotenks he was in the chamber for quite a while and he might have trained and learned to go SSJ3 where as Gogeta didn't have time to do the training so he couldn't master it.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:14 pm

The Super Saiyan stages are never really identified with Vegetto or Gogeta. They're both either Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2, but it stands to perfectly good reason that they can reach Super Saiyan 3.

With Gogeta, when they fused they were either Super Saiyan 1 or 2. But he never transforms or has any need to. He's just there, in some super form, so I don't really see a need to clasify it. It's just Gogeta.

As for Vegetto, he starts off in his base form, but soon enough transforms into his Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 state. Once again, it doesn't really make much difference which form this actually is. He calls himself Super Vegetto in this state, so I say we really don't need to narrow down a number to it. There's no need to say Super Saiyan Vegetto or Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto. It's just Super Vegetto.

Now, with Gogeta's appearence in GT, he's a Fusion of two Super Saiyan 4. There's not really much question about this, and I would say just to call it Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

So there you have it. Most of them don't really need any Super Saiyan whatever number applied to them, anyway, and none of them ever needed to transform into Super Saiyan 3. But to answer your question, they probably could, but it would have been a waste as that stage uses up so much Ki.

But they wouldn't have just been able to change into a Super Saiyan 4 unless both Goku and Vegeta knew the skill and could change at will, or if Vegetto / Gogeta was able to change into a golden Great Ape and bring it under control, which is entirely possible if it were to happen to a tailed Vegetto, but the Fusion time limit would pose a problem for Gogeta. As Super Saiyan 4, they only had a ten minute time span to stay fused, afterall. A golden Great Ape might pose the same problem, in which case, bringing it under control and becoming Super Saiyan 4 would probably use up enough time / Ki to bring the remaining Fusion time down to zero, if not close to it.

_Jrinu_ · Post by **_Jrinu_** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:54 pm

BROLEROT wrote:For the love of god it's not that bad . It's quite clear what I mean .I am not making these mistakes to piss people off .

We know you're not doing it on purpose man, it's just that on this forum we members have a certain amount of respect for our moderator and the rules he has put in place. We go out of our way to enforce these rules whenever we see necessary to do so.

That being said, if you would like to continue posting on this forum, take a gander over at the forum rules to find out a few things you've been doing wrong. Anyway, I hope that cleared things up, and I look forward to your future input on the forum.

Gotenks was the fusion between two super saiyans and he was able to reach ss3 . Vegetto and Gogeta were fusions made from a ss3 combining with a ss2.How far would people say Gogeta and Vegetto could transform if they were desperate ?At that stage could they have had enough power to turn ss4 or with their tails removed would they have only been able to become a really powerful ss3?

As for your original topic question, I suppose Gogeta/Vegetto could have transformed beyond their levels, but there was no need to. They were clearly stronger than both Janemba and Buu, and unnecessary tranforming would waste both time and energy.

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:05 pm

_Jrinu_ wrote:

That being said, if you would like to continue posting on this forum, take a gander over at the forum rules to find out a few things you've been doing wrong. Anyway, I hope that cleared things up, and I look forward to your future input on the forum.

We go out of our way to enforce these rules whenever we see necessary to do so.

Maybe too far. Come on he's had it pointed out on several occasions and has already been linked to the rules again. Give the guy a chance to change his ways. You don't have to keep telling him.

_Jrinu_ · Post by **_Jrinu_** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:08 pm

Yeesh... I thought I was being really nice.

This was actually the first post of his I saw, I hadn't realized that he had already been warned in more than one thread, that's my bad.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:54 am

Addressing the original question and ignoring the grammar shortcomings: Why do you care? There's no way at all to know.

BROLEROT · Post by **BROLEROT** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:44 am

I have some extra questions on the fusion topic. During the fight with Super 17 when he was beating the snot out of most of the z fighters would a fusion between Vegeta and Gohan created a fighter strong enough to hold his own against super 17?If Bulma had not come up with the idea on how to make Vegeta a ss4 and Vegeta had suggested fusion to Goku in the final fight,would their fusion have had any benefits over Goku at ss4 (I am guessing Goku would have to go down to ss2 to make his power level equal to Vegeta)?

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:07 pm

Yawn... dude your making me sleepy, who cares besides you? Your asking questions nobody can be sure on. On the first though I'm going to go with, em, no. And on the second, em, I don't think that Goku and Vegeta in the ''final fight'' could defeat Omega Shenron as Gogeta without being SSJ4. Is that another no, I'm not sure...

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:15 pm

BROLEROT wrote:I have some extra questions on the fusion topic. During the fight with Super 17 when he was beating the snot out of most of the z fighters would a fusion between Vegeta and Gohan created a fighter strong enough to hold his own against super 17?If Bulma had not come up with the idea on how to make Vegeta a ss4 and Vegeta had suggested fusion to Goku in the final fight,would their fusion have had any benefits over Goku at ss4 (I am guessing Goku would have to go down to ss2 to make his power level equal to Vegeta)?

Stop obsessing over who could beat who. This isn't pro-wrestling (unless you're watching a Broli movie). Just love the series for what it is and let power comparisons fade into the back of your mind to rarely be touched upon. It's like being concerned with how many people your girlfriend could beat up - it's not about that!

It's especially irritating when it's questions that are pointless and unanswerable.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:45 pm

After looking through superstar and comparing him to Brolerot, is Brolerot his brother? superstar asking about speed and this guy strength. Anyway, I think Goegeta could have gone SSJ3 if he trained like Gotenks. Vegeta would have to lower his power level if he wanted to fuse with Gohan, due to Gohan not training and loss of his Ultiamate power-up. I don't think he hold up thought... And Gogeta would be dead against Omega Shenron if he didn't went SS4.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:05 pm

Duo wrote:It's like being concerned with how many people your girlfriend could beat up - it's not about that!

"Girlfriend"?

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:53 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Duo wrote:It's like being concerned with how many people your girlfriend could beat up - it's not about that!
"Girlfriend"?

Some of us have girlfriends, Single-seat-Rocketman

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:55 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Duo wrote:It's like being concerned with how many people your girlfriend could beat up - it's not about that!
"Girlfriend"?
Some of us have girlfriends, Single-seat-Rocketman

It's lonely out in space.

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