Goku's clothes from King Kai

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:05 pm

King Kai gave Goku a suit with his own logo on the back that was of very good material. Later on when his suit is shredded against Vegeta and while recovering in the hospital Goku says he received a new suit from King Kai. During the training this one is destroyed also, and we get to see a closet full of clothes from King Kai.

My question: How the hell did King Kai transport those to earth? He couldn't zap Goku back, and there's nobody to run Snake Way.

Payne222 · Post by **Payne222** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:29 pm

Toriyama-Sensei probably didn't really care about how Goku got his cloths. He was more into the important parts of the story, seeing as how he had a week to do each chapter.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:19 pm

Payne222 wrote:Toriyama-Sensei probably didn't really care about how Goku got his cloths. He was more into the important parts of the story, seeing as how he had a week to do each chapter.

Well duh, I'm just curious if I'm missing out on something.

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:28 pm

Isn't Piccolo able to make a cloth appear out of nowhere? Presumably, he did the same.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:51 pm

Neon Z wrote:Isn't Piccolo able to make a cloth appear out of nowhere? Presumably, he did the same.

Goku specifically said that King Kai sent him new clothes.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Pieter wrote:
Neon Z wrote:Isn't Piccolo able to make a cloth appear out of nowhere? Presumably, he did the same.
Goku specifically said that King Kai sent him new clothes.

Transferring people is one thing, but fizzling clothes into existence? I don't see it as impossible or unrealistic for the given situation.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:06 pm

I'm not sure if my question is clear, I know King Kai is able to make clothes out of nowhere, we see him do it. What I'm wondering is how the new clothes could be sent to earth from the afterworld, something Goku said had happened.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:13 pm

Pieter wrote:I'm not sure if my question is clear, I know King Kai is able to make clothes out of nowhere, we see him do it. What I'm wondering is how the new clothes could be sent to earth from the afterworld, something Goku said had happened.

Cuz' Stone Cold said so? Again, I don't see why this is so hard to figure out. If he can make clothes appear on someone 4 feet away from him, why not someone who's in the realm of the living on a faraway planet? We don't know the limits or lack thereof of Kaio-sama's powers, so I just accept that idea that he's capable of making some Gi appear on Earth very, very far away from himself.

the_abberration · Post by **the_abberration** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:18 pm

Pieter wrote:I'm not sure if my question is clear, I know King Kai is able to make clothes out of nowhere, we see him do it. What I'm wondering is how the new clothes could be sent to earth from the afterworld, something Goku said had happened.

Try this: (Athough it did not happen in the manga/anime)

Kaio-sama had the clothes sent by Baba Uranai. She can travel between the world of the living and the dead.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:20 pm

I think Duo's got the best answer, but if you want something more elaborate, Kaio can, and does, communicate with anyone in either realm. He could easily get Enma to send someone to pick up some stuff and bring it back to the check-in station. And from there Kami could easily pick it up, and bring it back to the mortal realm.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:12 pm

I've never seen King Kai make clothes out of thin air but I have seen him "repair" Goku's tattered clothes. As for Goku getting the clothes, it was probably just a whatever moment for Toriyama or the old fortuneteller could've given him the clothes when he was in the hospital.
-Rick

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:55 pm

desirecampbell wrote:I think Duo's got the best answer, but if you want something more elaborate, Kaio can, and does, communicate with anyone in either realm. He could easily get Enma to send someone to pick up some stuff and bring it back to the check-in station.

Someone, but who? Few people made it to Kaiô's place at all, let alone quickly.
I guess we do have to assume that he just "magically sent" (or "materialized"... same idea, really) them because they're just clothes, and he can do that. Eh.

'Would have been simpler to just give Gokû normal clothes, really.

Mystic Jack · Post by **Mystic Jack** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:23 am

He could always have used Baba to do it... Or just used Instantaneous Movement.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:10 am

Mystic Jack wrote:He could always have used Baba to do it... Or just used Instantaneous Movement.

PRETTY sure Kaio-sama doesn't teleport, otherwise he would've run away fro his planet when CELL appeared from thin air.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:31 am

Can someone check Kaiô's comment when Goku first shows him his Shunkan Idô during the Cell arc? I think it is relevant to the discussion at hand!

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:34 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Can someone check Kaiô's comment when Goku first shows him his Shunkan Idô during the Cell arc? I think it is relevant to the discussion at hand!

Paraphrasing: Teleporting? I could've taught you that. -King Kai
I remember him saying something like that in both the manga and anime. As for King Kai not teleporting himself, he probably didn't have enough time to do so. Hell if he could teleport, Goku's return to earth wouldn't be so dramatic, eh?
-Rick

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:40 am

Yeah, that's the line as I remember it.

Duo, you have a giant manga library at your disposal (I'm not at home or I'd look myself); get searching!

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:43 am

Maybe it was similar to how Goku couldn't just teleport anywhere and could only go where there was someone he knew.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:09 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Yeah, that's the line as I remember it.

Duo, you have a giant manga library at your disposal (I'm not at home or I'd look myself); get searching!

Geez, it's like you know me. The collection is in a drawer 3 meet from my head, hold on.

-40 seconds later-

DBZ Vol. 17, page 116, chapter 119:

Son Goku - "I might be able to pick up their Chi if I at least knew which way to focus."

Kaio-Sama - "Wow. Teleportation!! When did you learn that?!" (frame change) "I'll bet the Yardrat taught you...awfully convenient, isn't it...?"

Son Goku - "...could you be quiet?"

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:28 pm

Mystic Jack wrote:He could always have used Baba to do it...

Baba can cross the Snake's Way?

Or just used Instantaneous Movement.

In that case, why didn't he do that with Gokû himself so that he would be back on Earth before most of his friends got killed by the Saiyans?

(of course, the same applies for Mr. Popo's magic carpet... that one would have been "slightly helpful", considering Piccolo died before Gokû could reach the battlefield..)