Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by kamehahaha » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:36 pm

Vados may be a villain, or she may not. We'll know when the show gets there. Here's why I think she's not a villain: she could easily beat everyone except for Whis. And why shouldn't she just do it and get it over with? Nah. It seems as if personal ambition doesn't exist for Whis/Vados. They're sole reason for existing is to train and take care of the current God of Destruction. Right now that's Beerus and Champa.

The Champa arc might end with the introduction of a threat or a villain, though. So, I think that the next arc will have a true villain. Hit will join forces with Goku/Vegeta, and Cabba will also join them to fight the next villain.

I can be wrong, and if I am and Vados is the villain, they better have a damn good reason as to why she's trying to be sneaky about it.

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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:05 pm

Could you say that Champa was the main guy in the story. U7 was fighting against his team and he wanted to switch the Earth from Universe 7 with his. Not to mention he still try to kill the Universe 7 team (or at from what I've read).
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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by Bullza » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:34 am

Well the arc is all but over and there isn't really going to be a "main villain" as such is there?

Though if anyone were to be considered the main villain of the arc it would obviously be Champa. He may not have really fought anybody in the arc nor is he particularly evil but he is the antagonist of the arc.

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Post by marcbret87 » Mon May 02, 2016 3:40 am

Bullza wrote:Well the arc is all but over and there isn't really going to be a "main villain" as such is there?

Though if anyone were to be considered the main villain of the arc it would obviously be Champa. He may not have really fought anybody in the arc nor is he particularly evil but he is the antagonist of the arc.
I guess you could consider Champa to be the main bad of the arc but it wasn't really like that. In any event, after guessing so much who would be the big bad and what would the tournament lead to it seems everything was allright and the series is moving into different territory.

It's still a bit surprising given that initially the portrayal of Champa/Vados collecting the Super Dragon Balls hinted that they had evil intentions and in the end nothing really happened of the sort.

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon May 02, 2016 6:55 am

It's ok and refreshing not to have a main villain, it's the tournament arc after all, both 21st and 22nd TBs didn't have main villains.

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Post by HeroR » Mon May 02, 2016 7:43 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:It's ok and refreshing not to have a main villain, it's the tournament arc after all, both 21st and 22nd TBs didn't have main villains.
Well, technically the primary villain of the 22rd tournament was the Crane Hermit. He just wasn't fought.
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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by marcbret87 » Mon May 02, 2016 8:19 am

HeroR wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:It's ok and refreshing not to have a main villain, it's the tournament arc after all, both 21st and 22nd TBs didn't have main villains.
Well, technically the primary villain of the 22rd tournament was the Crane Hermit. He just wasn't fought.
While Hermit Crane wasn't fought, Tien was, and I would argue he was indeed the main villain given that he breaks Yamcha's leg in the quarter finals. Even if by the end he had already switched sides.

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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon May 02, 2016 9:17 am

marcbret87 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:It's ok and refreshing not to have a main villain, it's the tournament arc after all, both 21st and 22nd TBs didn't have main villains.
Well, technically the primary villain of the 22rd tournament was the Crane Hermit. He just wasn't fought.
While Hermit Crane wasn't fought, Tien was, and I would argue he was indeed the main villain given that he breaks Yamcha's leg in the quarter finals. Even if by the end he had already switched sides.
He was more of an antagonist than the main villain.

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Post by TheDBZmaster100 » Mon May 02, 2016 12:18 pm

TheDBZmaster100 wrote:It would be a nice subversion if this arc does have a main villain, the U6 participants are enough as antagonists.
I'm glad that such a thing has occurred.

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Post by HeroR » Tue May 03, 2016 12:14 am

Kuririn Fan wrote: He was more of an antagonist than the main villain.
He was the one driving the vengeance plot and tried to get his students to kill the Turtle School. He was the villain, he just remained unfought and had Tien do the lifting. When Tien turned on him, he was ready to kill both Goku and Tien himself.

Champa is an antagonist since he never directly threatened the heroes, he just drove the plot. Even in the end, the only people he was ready to kill was his own team.
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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Tue May 03, 2016 2:30 am

HeroR wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote: He was more of an antagonist than the main villain.
He was the one driving the vengeance plot and tried to get his students to kill the Turtle School. He was the villain, he just remained unfought and had Tien do the lifting. When Tien turned on him, he was ready to kill both Goku and Tien himself.

Champa is an antagonist since he never directly threatened the heroes, he just drove the plot. Even in the end, the only people he was ready to kill was his own team.
I was talking about Tenshinhan, Crane Hermit was totally unimportant imo, it was all about Ten.

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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by HeroR » Tue May 03, 2016 2:53 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote: He was more of an antagonist than the main villain.
He was the one driving the vengeance plot and tried to get his students to kill the Turtle School. He was the villain, he just remained unfought and had Tien do the lifting. When Tien turned on him, he was ready to kill both Goku and Tien himself.

Champa is an antagonist since he never directly threatened the heroes, he just drove the plot. Even in the end, the only people he was ready to kill was his own team.
I was talking about Tenshinhan, Crane Hermit was totally unimportant imo, it was all about Ten.
He wasn't important since he was the one who drove Tien to be a dick and encouraged his students to murder the entire Turtle School to avenge Tao. Tien was merely the Dragon. The most dominate physical force that Goku had to fight, but the one driving the whole thing was the Crane Hermit. Think of it like Dabura and Babidi. Dabura was the biggest physical threat, but he wasn't the primary villain, Babidi was despite being weak.
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Re: Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Tue May 03, 2016 3:02 am

I don't know, Crane Hermit was unimportant in my opinion, nothing like Babidi, it was clearly Tenshinhan's arc.

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