Is Goku the main one to blame for Boo's hatching?

[ABED]

I could see his plan in tryin' to find their hiding spot by letting them do that but there's one big flaw in that. He saw Gohan's power and he knew Gohan could take them out yet he still screwed Gohan over like a freakin' dog in heat. Yeah, I'm not a big Kaioshin fan.......

I still don't see the flaw.

[Bansho64]

I still don't see the flaw.

They could've beat both Spopovich and Yamu and interrogated and held them captive until they told of Babidi's hide out. Kaioshin letting them take the energy not only helped Boo get revived but also had Kibito killed and Piccolo and Krillin turned to stone. Also, my apologies I should've stated that the Saiyans (mainly Goku) were at a much a much bigger fault in my opinion. Also, I'm sorry for my last comment. I actually like Kaioshin at the end of the day. He's not one of my favorite characters but he's alright.

[ABED]

I still don't see the flaw.

They could've beat both Spopovich and Yamu and interrogated and held them captive until they told of Babidi's hide out. Kaioshin letting them take the energy not only helped Boo get revived but also had Kibito killed and Piccolo and Krillin turned to stone. Also, my apologies I should've stated that the Saiyans (mainly Goku) were at a much a much bigger fault in my opinion. Also, I'm sorry for my last comment. I actually like Kaioshin at the end of the day. He's not one of my favorite characters but he's alright.

They aren't interrogators and Babidi could be paying attention and could can kill them from a distance in order to silence them. Kaioshin isn't responsible for Kibito's death or Piccolo's and Kuririn turning to stone. They all went willingly and knew the danger.

[ShaneisMC]

I don't believe that Goku thought he would take as much damage in his fight against Vegeta as he did. And even so he didn't have a way of knowing just how much energy was being transferred over and how close it was bringing Buu to full power nor the extent of how much was required to revive him. Could he have become a Super Saiyan 3 and wiped the floor with Vegeta? Yeah he could have. But he knew that would utterly devastate Vegeta and he didn't want to put him through even greater mental anguish. Not to mention that he just in general was reserving SSJ3 as an absolute emergency only kind of card. As far as he was aware at the time they weren't necessarily in a large enough degree of danger to warrant it. Not to mention that all the evidence up to this point thus far as far as everyone but Kaioshin was concerned seemed to indicate that things were certainly manageable and while the situation was certainly quite bad, it wasn't anything they couldn't handle. All of Babidis henchmen were significantly weaker than them with the exception of Dabra but even he would have been relatively easily beaten by Goku or Vegeta and had the fight continued I believe ultimately Gohan would have prevailed. And on top of all that it wasn't even things they were having to discover on their own in a way because Kaioshin had been consistently warning them in advance of each of these threats and every time they proved him wrong. So why believe that Buu is something they couldn't handle either considering everyone else was dealt with? I don't believe Goku is really at much if any fault here. The only way he really made a choice that he knew could potentially lead to a negative outcome (being Buus revival) was by essentially holding Kaioshin at blast point and agreeing to fight Vegeta. But even then its not really something he "wanted" to do. Vegeta put him on the spot and forced him. He was simply placed into a bad situation and made what he thought were the best decisions as things progressed.

To a lesser extent the same can be said of Vegeta though he definitely did make a large selfish mistake in allowing Babidi to control him. He knew what he was getting into outright but he didn't care. So his intent is largely at fault here. Gohan I don't see how in any way anything can be attributed to him. He consistently was just doing his best. Plain and simple. Kaioshin I certainly also can't see for any reason to be held accountable. He was also trying at every turn to put a stop to it but things just didn't work out. It wasn't anything he could control. And he was in no position to really do much anyway other than give out the intel and warnings that he consistently gave out. Aside from Babidi everyone else that was involved was stronger than he was. I suppose you could try to fault him for not knowing more than he did beforehand by not watching over the earth and witnessing just how powerful the crew had gotten. Even then though I don't see how that would change anything. They still would have been as strong as they were, and the plan to have to subdue Gohan would have to have been carried out so Yamu and Spopovich would lead them to where the ship was hidden. I guess... You could blame them for not looking for it more/better beforehand? Even then though suppose they found it. Ok then what? They still would have needed the Saiyans help to take care of it. So I don't see how they could have really done anything about it even had they known where it was. Though that would have prevented Gohan from having to be restrained which gave Buu nearly half his power. Though if Vegeta still chose to make his choice its still quite possible that his fight with Goku would have more or less filled the meter up. Perhaps I simply haven't thought the whole situation through and I'm missing things or my logic is simply off. I'm not entirely focused on the subject currently to be honest but here's what I brought to the table for now anyway.

Long story short, I don't think anyone is overtly at fault here. If anyone is to be given most blame it would go to Vegeta without question I believe. But for the most part I think a bunch of unfortunate events occurred and the people involved for the most part did what they believed was the best move and things simply didn't end in our favor.

[DBZAOTA482]

I think Kaioshin deserves a huge chunk of the blame for Majin Boo hatching, but Goku, Vegeta and Gohan sure as hell significantly contributed to the entire mess as well.

Why? Kaioshin was doing his job, and his plan would have worked just fine if the Saiyans weren't being assholes.

For a guy that chasing Babdi's spaceship, he seemed very lacking in vital information about him. Like, not telling any of the Z-Fighters that Babidi had the power to control those with evil in their heart. Why the hell didn't he tell any of the Z-Fighters he could do that? If the Z-Fighters knew beforehand that Babidi had such an ability, then there's no way in hell they would have let Vegeta come to Babidi's spaceship with them. And because of that, the Majin Boo arc then never happens. And of course there's him also leaving out the fact that Majin Boo could absorb people, which in effect, just prolonged the arc once things got rolling. Not to mention heavily underrating the Saiyans and over-hyping the shit out of Badibi's minions. In reality, taking just Goku alone would have been enough to take of Babidi's minions and would have solved everything.

I'll admit happily that the Saiyans take a good share of the blame for Majin Boo being released, but they were already up shit creek without a paddle when Piccolo, Krillin and Kibito bit the dust. If Piccolo, Kibito and Krillin were still around they could have provided proper strategy and planning in how to take of Babidi. Piccolo could have take care of Pui Pui, Gohan could have taken care of Yakon and Vegeta could have taken care of Dabra easily. Then all of Babidi's henchmen are dead. Then Supreme Kai and Kibito takes care of Babidi, Goku and Krillin destroy Majin Boo's cocoon and case closed. The Majin Boo arc ends right there and for a bonus, everybody get a fair share of the spotlight, too.

Kaioshin really didn't think things through, and ultimately, his "plan" of defeating Majin Boo was the catalyst for the Majin Boo arc even happening in the first place as it wasn't well thought out at all. But the Saiyans definitely made things more difficult than it should have been.

EDIT: Oh, and as LightBing pointed out, and I can't believe I forgot about this, Kaioshin essentially giving Babidi half the energy he required right of the bat was an incredibly stupid and insanely careless thing to do.

Kaioshin did tell them about Babidi exploiting the evil in someone's heart... but he was definitely careless in taking percussion BEFORE they left to Babidi's Spaceship. If he did then he would know Vegeta is obviously not pure and he wouldn't be so ignorant of the Saiyan's powers thus not having to resort to his dumbass plan.

He said himself he would've handled the situation differently if he knew of the Saiyan's powers but it took him all the way from his nonsensical, contradictory "plan" to his ass beating to realize he was out of his league.

Kaioshin is definitely to blame for not doing his job as overseer and making everything needlessly difficult. Vegeta was just the tip of the iceberg in his half-baked "plan" fucking everyone over.

[successoroffate]

Vegeta fought Goku knowing that the power clash between the two would do no favors. No Goku vs Majin Vegeta means no Buu.
Just like Vegeta is the one to blame for Cell's perfect form.

[Zephyr]

Like, not telling any of the Z-Fighters that Babidi had the power to control those with evil in their heart. Why the hell didn't he tell any of the Z-Fighters he could do that? If the Z-Fighters knew beforehand that Babidi had such an ability, then there's no way in hell they would have let Vegeta come to Babidi's spaceship with them.

Kaioshin didn't know who Vegeta was, or what he was like. He had no real reason to assume that Goku and co. would be hanging around such a guy. The guy might be one of the highest gods in the universe, but he's not omniscient or omnipresent.

they were already up shit creek without a paddle when Piccolo, Krillin and Kibito bit the dust. If Piccolo, Kibito and Krillin were still around they could have provided proper strategy and planning in how to take of Babidi. Piccolo could have take care of Pui Pui, Gohan could have taken care of Yakon and Vegeta could have taken care of Dabra easily. Then all of Babidi's henchmen are dead. Then Supreme Kai and Kibito takes care of Babidi, Goku and Krillin destroy Majin Boo's cocoon and case closed. The Majin Boo arc ends right there and for a bonus, everybody get a fair share of the spotlight, too.

I doubt Gohan would have improvised with the same degree of success that Goku did against Yakon. And if Vegeta didn't whine, or Goku just put him in the corner, the plan would have worked 100%. Even if Gohan forfeited or died, Dabura and Babidi were utterly screwed.

Kaioshin definitely takes part of the blame for not doing more research and coming up with a better plan. But even that plan was going to work out just fine, if the Saiyans didn't ruin it. Vegeta seriously couldn't wait 10 more minutes without whining? If they finished everything up there, he and Goku could have fought right after. I mean it's one thing to make a shitty plan that works. It's another thing to take a shitty plan that was going to work, and ruin it because you can't wait 10 minutes.

[RandomGuy96]

If Goku had done literally nothing, then Gohan and Vegeta could've defeated Dabra and iced Babidi before handing off the egg to Kaioshin, solving the whole arc in the span of an afternoon. Instead he comes back to life and prevents Vegeta (and Kaioshin) from intervening in the Dabra-Gohan fight, giving Dabra and Babidi time to go cast a spell on Vegeta, who only accepts the offer because he wants to fight Goku. Heck, they don't even need Vegeta. Kaioshin and Gohan could breeze through Pui Pui, the mystery level two fighter, and Yakon with no issues, then team up on Dabra (Gohan was his equal, and Kaioshin can totally paralyze a SS2 level fighter and render them helpless; Dabra is not exactly an unassailable threat), then ice Babidi.

[ABED]

That's not relevant because we can see that's what happened after the fact. Goku's not responsible for Vegeta getting pissy. I highly doubt Vegeta wouldn't have eventually shown his true colors and Babidi wouldn't have turned him Majin.

[Vynak]

I don't believe that Goku thought he would take as much damage in his fight against Vegeta as he did. And even so he didn't have a way of knowing just how much energy was being transferred over and how close it was bringing Buu to full power nor the extent of how much was required to revive him. Could he have become a Super Saiyan 3 and wiped the floor with Vegeta? Yeah he could have. But he knew that would utterly devastate Vegeta and he didn't want to put him through even greater mental anguish.

This argument never really made sense to me simply because Vegeta had already blown up part of the stadium & killed a bunch of people in order to force Goku to fight so I really doubt Goku (or anyone else) would have been too sympathetic to Vegeta's 'mental anguish' over losing to SSJ3. Even if he didn't see Buu as a huge threat at the time, Vegeta certainly was a threat and Goku should have just put him in his place and moved on. It was obvious early on the two of them were on even footing with SSJ2 and there was just no reason to drag out the fight unnecessarily and fill up Buu's meter.

That being said, it's obvious SSJ3 hadn't been thought up yet at the time of their fight and throwing it into the mix later just makes their fight worthless and also makes Goku look like an asshole for wasting time when he could just have knocked Vegeta out from the beginning.

So as to who was at fault, if you believe Goku was just holding back the entire time, he would carry the majority of the blame for Buu's hatching. If you remove SSJ3 from the equation, Vegeta would be mostly to blame.

[Captain Strawberry]

I would say it's really Vegeta's. Because Buu was born from the energy that took place from Goku and Vegeta and had Vegeta not been wanting to Goku like this and waited, they could have avoided all of this. It adds more to Vegeta's sacrifice as he wanted to finish it with one last blast; perhaps even say clean up the mess he made and take responsibility.

[Wizard Sesame]

My list of who is to blame in order.

1) Bibidi/Babidi: Needs no explaining as to why.
2) Dabura: His whole character doesn't make sense. He clearly was able to throw off Babidi's curse since he did it when he saw Buu, but what did he think Buu was going to be beforehand? Did he not understand that Buu was going to be way more powerful than him? I mean, it's common sense, if a dude needs me as muscle to get another guy to work for him, I'd immediately assume this other guy is going to be way better than I could ever be.
3) Vegeta: he couldn't wait ten minutes.
4) Goku: he should have used SSJ3 right away, but since it clearly wasn't imagined just yet, I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
5) Kaioshin: he is so low because his "plan" would have worked if not for the Saiyans. He should have done more research, he should have came up with a more intelligible plan, but regardless, his idea would have worked if not for Vegeta.
6) Gohan: he should have trained more and would have therefore been able to defeat Dabura, but this is a reach. I don't blame him for not training.

[Nejishiki]

While Gohan was certainly rusty, he was doing just fine in the actual fight and would have eventually won on his own accord. It was Vegeta who was taking such a big issue with his form that even Goku couldn't calm him down. I don't think he should be blamed for not being able to control somebody else's emotions. Purely judging him by his own actions, he had been performing his role as intended, even suggesting a tactic Mr. Satan utilized to perfection later in the story, talking Boo down.

[Puto]

2) Dabura: His whole character doesn't make sense. He clearly was able to throw off Babidi's curse since he did it when he saw Buu, but what did he think Buu was going to be beforehand? Did he not understand that Buu was going to be way more powerful than him? I mean, it's common sense, if a dude needs me as muscle to get another guy to work for him, I'd immediately assume this other guy is going to be way better than I could ever be.

Dabra didn't throw off Bobbidi's mind control entirely: He still saw him as his master, he just realised that Boo would eventually turn on Bobbidi and thus did his best to defeat Boo in order to save his master, even against said master's own wishes.

[sangofe]

I still don't see the flaw.

They could've beat both Spopovich and Yamu and interrogated and held them captive until they told of Babidi's hide out. Kaioshin letting them take the energy not only helped Boo get revived but also had Kibito killed and Piccolo and Krillin turned to stone. Also, my apologies I should've stated that the Saiyans (mainly Goku) were at a much a much bigger fault in my opinion. Also, I'm sorry for my last comment. I actually like Kaioshin at the end of the day. He's not one of my favorite characters but he's alright.

They aren't interrogators and Babidi could be paying attention and could can kill them from a distance in order to silence them. Kaioshin isn't responsible for Kibito's death or Piccolo's and Kuririn turning to stone. They all went willingly and knew the danger.

Plus weren't Spopovich and Yamu so controlled/drugged by Babidi that they wouldn't have talked or shown the way no matter what?

[FoolsGil]

Wouldn't Supreme Kai have had the ability to mentally speak to Yemma? So couldn't he have told Yemma that Goku is being especially dickish, and that Yemma needs to bring him back to the Spirit World pronto and take Goku's body before he ITs back to the living world? So maybe Supreme Kai should take most of the fault for forgetting he is a type of god with powers outside of fighting?

[dbgtFO]

It wasn't Goku's fault. He states quite clearly, before fighting Vegeta, that he didn't want any of his energy to go to Majin Buu, so he would end it quickly with his highest power.
Later on, a retcon occurs, which from an in-universe perspective would be the same as him getting mind-controlled into believing his highest power truly was SS2, only to then get mind-controlled later into realizing he could have used SS3 at any point, instead of wasting time.
So really, it was some unseen all-powerful being, who fucked up Goku's mind, probably owing to a perverted nature