Can our next arc villian be a woman?

[EXBadguy]

Just have a personality and a goal similar to Towa and then you have a good main villainess.

[Soppa Saia People]

Just have a personality and a goal similar to Towa and then you have a good main villainess.

What personality l

[Grimlock]

I think it would be good for the series to have a woman villain (and that do not join the good guys, for a change...). And hopefully it's Towa (obviously along with Mira and the Time Breakers). It's high time she joins the series too.

[EXBadguy]

I honestly think the Time Breaker duo should stay the hell away from Super as far as possible. Let the series have its own identity.

[Grimlock]

And by "own identity" you mean what, exactly? As far as I know/I've heard out there/I've seen, from the color of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan to the plot of Future Trunks saga come from fanfics (including evil Kaioshin that is not treated/called as Makaio or Makaioshin). I'd say it's better to take elements from games (specifically Dragon Ball Online, for some obvious reasons) than take from fanfics.

[PMD]

Yes, it would be good (Towa, I hope), but not just because. It has to be well written and with a good motivation.

Anyway, I don't think world wide society and especially japanese culture is ready for that big step yet. There's too many stupid people out there that will complain.

[Beyond]

A main female villain would be cool, but only if she was interesting. Hopefully they wouldn't over emphasis a "girly" trait and make that her gimmick.

[GeeRod]

It would be cool to see a woman as a villain. But PLEASE don't use fanservice. The last I want to see from DB is fanservice just like One Piece and Fairy Tail...

[ryou766]

Someone mentioned to me in a chat that Black might be a female entity of some sorts. That'd be something.

[Viewtiful Jess]

[spoiler]Very little actually offends me, so this nonsense just makes me roll my eyes, but it's absolutely not in the spirit of this website, and neither are image-only replies. Jokes are fine, silly sexist comments really aren't.

These types of posts seem very out of character compared to your more recent contributions over the past year; they're reminiscent of the posts that lead to your temporary ban all that time ago.

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Thank you Ajay. Couldn't of said it better.

That said, Vados is already stronger than all the males in the cast. It'd be nice for a female villain, sure, but not needed.

She is, the problem is she hasn't done anything to really show it. Maybe she's asserted it against Champa but we don't really see her do anything else. Have her get a shot in on somebody. Maybe someone who couldn't be phased otherwise? Maybe Black? Zamasu? New Villian? Somebody. We should be shown not told. We know she's mad strong, show us!

It would be cool to see a woman as a villain. But PLEASE don't use fanservice. The last I want to see from DB is fanservice just like One Piece and Fairy Tail...

Yes! Even as the OP women are drawn as fan service, they still kick ass. I remember when Nico Robin was first shown and nobody messed with her aside from Croc!

[RedRibbonSoldier#42]

Yes, it would be good (Towa, I hope), but not just because. It has to be well written and with a good motivation.

Anyway, I don't think world wide society and especially japanese culture is ready for that big step yet. There's too many stupid people out there that will complain.

It seems extremely hyberbolic to say the world just isn't ready for a female villian. Especially scince they already exist. Even in Japan.

[Alruneia]

Sure. Have Toriyama write an entire arc about a villain with well-written development, then slap a pair of boobs on the evil bastard before release. That's how I want a female villain to be: Not defined by gender in any other way than form. It shouldn't matter that she's female, she just is. Know what I mean?

I think you have too much faith in Toriyama. We're talking about the series that was making sagging boob jokes at Bulma a few episodes ago.

That's why I put it in the order I did. The villain's gender being the last thing to be decided forces a lack of sexualisation.

[NothiaBlue]

Sure! Yes please! Just please... No sexy armor, gear, techniques, objectification or jokes and threats of sexual nature at her expense. A nicely written character. Have her be brutal; and have a motive that's not a man or some thinly veiled "feminism's bad" plot. It'd be awesome to see such a huge adversary that characters react to with pure fear/determination to defeat be a female villain; especially one who's THE big bad of an arc.

It would be such a breath of fresh air!

[MCDaveG]

I always thought that No. 18 was cool. I liked them as duo with 17. It would be great to have female antagonist.
The only strong one and menacing that I can remember from anime is probably Haman Karn from Gundam. Saint Seiya also have pretty strong antagonist Godeses (Odin's attendant Polaris Hilda, Artemis, Calysto, Eris) - I don't count Palas from Saint Seiya Omega tough, whe was bratty and manipulated by Saturn (Yeah, Hilda was manupilated by Nibelungen ring from Poseidon, but she was ruthless).

[MozillaVulpix]

That'd be fun. I feel like DB isn't the kind of series that seriously wants to be progressive in terms of the genre, but it'd be nice if they tried.

I think what good female villains have in common is that they don't constantly have the fact that they're female paraded in your face. 18 was definitely like that. She's 17's twin, but the fact that she's female had no real impact on her personality or her actions. Although it definitely affected Vegeta and Krillin's actions.

[Bullza]

As said in the post RIGHT above yours, it wasn't a joke. It was a shitty sexist jab. There's a clear difference between the two.

No it actually was a joke, I thought that was supposed to be obvious. There are all kinds of jokes. Sexist jokes, racist jokes, rape jokes, paedophile jokes etc.

What do you think Family Guy has been doing all these years? Or pretty much every stand up comedian ever?

I can't believe how seriously people actually took it, sure shows the way of the times. I swear people just try to find something to be offended by now.

I make a couple thousand serious posts in a row, followed by a couple jokes in a row and I could be banned from the entire website for it .

[Ajay]

No it actually was a joke, I thought that was supposed to be obvious. There are all kinds of jokes. Sexist jokes, racist jokes, rape jokes, paedophile jokes etc.
What do you think Family Guy has been doing all these years? Or pretty much every stand up comedian ever?
I can't believe how seriously people actually took it, sure shows the way of the times. I swear people just try to find something to be offended by now.
I make a couple thousand serious posts in a row, followed by a couple jokes in a row and I could be banned from the entire website for it .

Everyone understands you were joking, even if the joke was totally archaic and witless.

It's nothing to do with the "way of the times", however. You're talking to someone who worships Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr, and I'm sure there are many people here who also love offensive humour too, but that isn't the issue.

Even if you told a top-tier 'edgy' joke, you'd still be met with the same verbal warning. It's about appropriateness for the place you're posting. You wouldn't repeat a Frankie Boyle joke at work for risk of being fired, and the same thing applies here.

This isn't a place for provocative stand-up routines or inappropriate jokes, it's an anime forum that puts an emphasis on solid discussion about Dragon Ball and embracing the series' 'happy shonen spirit' in tone. Posts like the one in question go entirely against that.

There's your clarification. Conversation over. Everyone please go back to discussing the topic at hand. Thanks!

[Bullza]

Lol what are you on about? I posted one little harmless joke and a gif, that's it, big deal. I followed it up several posts later with a serious post on the topic at hand. Why am I being threatened with losing all access to the ENTIRE website because I made ONE joke in the last several thousand posts that I made? Jesus Christ...

The show itself has this

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And they're more offensive than the joke I told . Good god, everyone just relax, I'm sorry, I'll never make another joke again for as long as live.

[Krillin1994]

Lol what are you on about? I posted one little harmless joke and a gif, that's it, big deal. I followed it up several posts later with a serious post on the topic at hand. Why am I being threatened with losing all access to the ENTIRE website because I made ONE joke in the last several thousand posts that I made? Jesus Christ...

The show itself has this

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And they're more offensive than the joke I told . Good god, everyone just relax, I'm sorry, I'll never make another joke again for as long as live.

Those are the reason Toriyama isn't allowed an account here.

[Pluto]

Good god, everyone just relax, I'm sorry, I'll never make another joke again for as long as live.

As an apology, you should open a thread with "Can our next arc villain be from the LGBT Community?"

and also change avatar to this




Jokes aside (please), if Toriyama would produce a female villain with Motoko Kusanagi qualities, i'd be all game. Or Ronda Rousey, being a huge Vegeta fan, would make a good candidate as a model .