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Esfír Dedragón wrote:I don't remember the fight between them. Which is probably why I would like to see his character return.
Pan just used some failed melee against him and he knocked her out with one hit (can't remember if it was a punch or kick). So she should one-shot him.
I'd resurrect King Cold. Seriously, for someone that's the father of the Emperor of the Universe and probably stronger than his powerful son, King Cold turned out to be quite a pansy. I expected more from a character that's supposed to be the regal father of Freeza. This was also a missed opportunity with the ROF film and arc.
The Ginyu Force, they are just some of the funniest and short lived characters (Even when Ginyu returned in Super it was just for one episode). Hell, I could see them becoming good guys in the end. Plus, them being alive gives us more of a chance of seeing them face off against Gohan, Jaco and Videl... In dance off!
Non-canon?
Cooler. I'm biased for him, he'd give more insight in Frieza's life, and it would be pretty cool to see him and Frieza face off with Vegeta and Goku in a 2V2.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Garlic, Jr.
He was the only one to ever achieve immortality, which makes him unique in my eyes. I think this time he would like to make another wish about being invincible. I would like to see him be defeated by the new generation of Z-fighters (Goten, Trunks, Pan, Bulla, etc). Although, him being post-DB but Pre-Z might make this a bit difficult to write a good story about his character.
Garlic Jr. is already basically invincible. He can literally regenerate from nothing. Obliterate him? Poof, he gets a new body.
But as for liking Garlic Jr....
Marry me.
Now.
"That's right, everyone of my race can become a giant gorilla!" - Tullece (AB Groupe dub)
Probably King Cold. I don't think he ever had a movie and we've only seen him once, but that was for only like, 20 or 30 minutes then he died. So maybe King Cold coming back a lot more stronger than he was before and all-out-of-the-blue to shock the fighters (and possibly get his revenge on Trunks) would be a nice touch. It would be better than resurrecting Frieza again.
Trunks: These androids are ruthless, they delight in causing pain and chaos.
Living on Earth in my time is like living in a nightmare. Always running and hiding and looking for a way out.
Trunks: I can't find hope in the present, but if I change the past can I find hope for the future?
Android 18: Ugh! I hate you! Trunks: You hate the fact that you're powerless to stop me. That you're completely outmatched. Well imagine feeling what you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. Fools! How do you think my master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out? Well, now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it.
Trunks: Gohan, why'd you have to do it, why'd you have to leave me? It's not fair! Oh gosh no... what did they do to you Gohan? You were my best friend, you were everything to me... everything! This just isn't fair! Gohan, Gohan, GOHAN!
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
It'd definitely have to be someone that either didn't get to shine the first time, or someone that would bring some element of surprise by turning up drastically stronger now. So just off the top of my head, I'd have to agree with the ideas of Tao, King Cold, or Dabura. Sadly Cold would be my last pick though, given they brought up the idea in F and then dismissed it, so it'd be a bit too repetitive now.
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The possibilities with his power and how he got them could made the basis for one hell of an arc.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I really felt that Dabura was a great character that was ultimately wasted and overshadowed due to the timeframe of his introduction. He may have only been around the same level of power as super Perfect Cell, but there are any number of abilities & traits you could give to him (being a demon king from another dimension) that would make him worthy of the status of "main villain of said arc".
Janemba may have gotten a movie, but he is one of the coolest villains in the series with a very unique set of abilities, the raw power in the same category as Super Buu, and could make for an interesting arc.
Lastly there's Cooler. He's tied with Janemba for the title of "best looking villain" in his final form. Sure things would ultimately boil down into Z0Fighters vs Freeza 2.0, but I've always liked his character and the idea behind it.
Mostly to see how he'd behave post Frieza death. Would he remain loyal to Frieza upon the RoF arc, or would he be working under the Z fighters instead?
Will he ever find anything on Earth, often considered a beautiful planet, that can live up to his ridiculously high standards? How would he act around Vegeta? Or Krillin and Gohan? Would he hang out with Yamcha and make the baseball team or become a Hollywood star?
Also I'd like to see another transformer on the team who isn't a saiyan.
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Vice wrote:"Look at all these characters getting some shine in the buildup for the tournament of power, maybe we'll get to see some other characters do some stuff instead of the same old shit."
1. Goku (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitor & Vegeta (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitors
DragonBallLove wrote:Blue, because we all need a NAMBLA Nazi in our favorite series
It is horrifying that NAMBLA is an actual organization and not something made up by the creators of South Park.
Anyway, my answer is Appule, just cuz.
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