How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

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How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by precita » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:55 pm

How strong do you think Yamcha was at his peak? I assume similar to Gohan he lost a lot of power in the 7 year break to the Buu arc and into Super since he doesn't train or fight anymore. But prior to that, how strong was he?

A lot of people seem to agree he reached about Recoome's level or somewhere around there due to the anime filler showing him being able to take him on, so what do you think?

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:26 am

In the anime, he'd be a good fight with Broli lol

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:31 am

I pretty much say anyone who trains under King Kai comes back with a power level close to Goku's. After 3 years of training, I would like to think he could clear Zarbon's monster form with some trouble.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:45 am

I'm a nice guy, so I generously interpret Gero's lines about how much the energy of the humans are worth to say that the humans were around base Saiyan tier at the start of the Android arc. Yamcha would be 3rd form Freeza level, roughly.
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by dragon boss z » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:26 am

Somewhere around saiyan saga Vegeta level.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by TobyS » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:39 am

I don't believe he stopped training , just stopped participating in tournaments and was back into martial arts as of “Yo! Son goku”

I think the humans are a tiny bit weaker than Base Goku at their max potential but aren't there yet unless the my use the Rosat or Elder Kai thing.

The gap they had at the beginning of the saiyan saga was when they were still one training method (kami) behind goku, so they would wind up somewhere between that PL and Gokus, and stay at the same proportional gap ever since.

Weaker then 100% freeza because base Goku is too but stronger than base freeza fight Goku and ginyu and weaker forms of freeza.

Could use Kaioken to get above that but still below SSJ 1's massive x50 multiplier.
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Khin » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:44 am

Yamcha explained that he doesn't want to participate the 25th TB because he doesn't want to be embarrassed again, but that doesn't really mean that he completely stopped training. The JSAT special seems to imply that he is still keeping his training, which the Boo Arc filler seems to support too.

At his peak. I would put Yamcha superior to second form Freeza, probably around 1.4 million.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Souheil21 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:39 am

id say at his max potential around second/third from frieza

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:44 pm

If you take filler into consideration, around Base Goku post-Cell arc.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by ahill1 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:54 pm

In my most recent power level list, I have Yamcha (peak) at Vegeta's (final Zenkai) power level.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by MarCas92 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:59 pm

Not counting that one outlier in filler during the Boo Arc, I honestly have problems placing any of the earthlings at thier peak past 2nd Form Freeza. If it wasn't for the Ginyu Force Filler on Kaio's planet I probably wouldn't place any of them past 1st Form Freeza.
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Akyon » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:28 pm

I always figured Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha hit 3rd form Frieza's level at least. Chiaoutzu maybe reaching Ginyu's level at a push(he's always been considerably weaker than the other three).
Might be Earthling bias on my part, but I doubt Gero would bother to drain Yamcha unless he was of significant worth at the time.

The only real thing we know for sure is Android 18 stating she's stronger than all the humans in the RoF arc. Technically as long as they're less powerful than her and 17, you can probably take some liberties.

Filler Yamcha though could probably one shot Perfect Cell since he could fight Olibu and another Otherworld fighter at the same time defeating them in a 2 on 1 fight.
Olibu's considered in the same league as Pikkon, and he beat Perfect Cell in a few punches.
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by precita » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:20 pm

Its really bizarre that out of all the aliens in space, the Ginyu Force were considered some of the strongest fighters yet they're comparably weak to the rest of the main cast. Given the Androids didn't exist yet, Buu was sealed away, and everyone else are God's or people from other universes, its kind of funny.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Zeru14 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:59 am

I don't see Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and Chiaotzu during the Android Saga being any higher than 500,000 between 1,500,000.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:43 am

Yamcha i don't see him crossing 3rd form freeza at his prime..
I keep him at second form myself..
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by dragon boss z » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:57 am

precita wrote:Its really bizarre that out of all the aliens in space, the Ginyu Force were considered some of the strongest fighters yet they're comparably weak to the rest of the main cast. Given the Androids didn't exist yet, Buu was sealed away, and everyone else are God's or people from other universes, its kind of funny.
Well out of the main cast that are stronger than the Ginyu force, all of them are either saiyan or half saiyan, and Piccolo fused with two other Namekians. The humans really haven't proved they are stronger than the Ginyu force unless you go by that filler.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by sintzu » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:48 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:I'm a nice guy, so Yamcha would be 3rd form Freeza level, roughly.
Saying you're nice is an understatement. :lol:

3rd form Freeza is where I'd put base Goku and Vegeta before fighting #19, Yamcha would probably be on Nappa's level during that time.
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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by precita » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:53 am

Piccolo went from being weaker than Nappa to being stronger than Freeza's second form. Yes part of it was the fusion with Nail, but I think Tenshihan and Yamcha improved a lot more than people think.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by nickzambuto » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:01 am

sintzu wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:I'm a nice guy, so Yamcha would be 3rd form Freeza level, roughly.
Saying you're nice is an understatement. :lol:

3rd form Freeza is where I'd put base Goku and Vegeta before fighting #19, Yamcha would probably be on Nappa's level during that time.
But base Goku was already fighting evenly with Freeza in his true form on Namek (before Freeza powered up further, obviously). Obviously he's stronger than Freeza's third form.

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Re: How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

Post by dragon boss z » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:57 am

precita wrote:Piccolo went from being weaker than Nappa to being stronger than Freeza's second form. Yes part of it was the fusion with Nail, but I think Tenshihan and Yamcha improved a lot more than people think.
That was pretty much all the fussion. Also Piccolo has always been way stronger than the humans. Maybe Tien reached one of Frieza's suppressed forms, but I highly doubt Yamcha did.

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