How strong was Yamcha at his peak?

[dragonball0900]

I have Yamcha beating only First Form Frieza. Unlike Krillin and Tien who are probably able to fight a 2nd Form Frieza and win, while Chiaotzu somewhere below Vegeta when he fought First Form Frieza.

[precita]

Problem is we don't know how strong Yamcha got during the Cell arc, or if his power regressed in the 7 years to the Buu arc like Gohan's did.

[dragonball0900]

Problem is we don't know how strong Yamcha got during the Cell arc, or if his power regressed in the 7 years to the Buu arc like Gohan's did.

I'm sure his power did decline during the 7 year gap, the same can be said for Krillin. Yeah, we don't know how strong the humans are at the Cell arc, I have them at 1st to 2nd Form Frieza tier, or maybe they are probably just Captain Ginyu to 1st Form Frieza tier. That's up for anyone's interpretation. I'm certain, however, that Yamcha is not below 50K, or Tien and Krillin below the 100K.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Problem is we don't know how strong Yamcha got during the Cell arc, or if his power regressed in the 7 years to the Buu arc like Gohan's did.

I'm sure his power did decline during the 7 year gap, the same can be said for Krillin. Yeah, we don't know how strong the humans are at the Cell arc, I have them at 1st to 2nd Form Frieza tier, or maybe they are probably just Captain Ginyu to 1st Form Frieza tier. That's up for anyone's interpretation. I'm certain, however, that Yamcha is not below 50K, or Tien and Krillin below the 100K.

Strange, I personally have Cell Arc Yamcha at around 20,000-25,000.

[TobyS]

Slightly weaker than base Goku, weaker than 100% final form Freeza without kaioken.

I don't believe he stopped training, just competing, o think he started again as of Yo! Son Goku and beyond.

[dragonball0900]

Problem is we don't know how strong Yamcha got during the Cell arc, or if his power regressed in the 7 years to the Buu arc like Gohan's did.

I'm sure his power did decline during the 7 year gap, the same can be said for Krillin. Yeah, we don't know how strong the humans are at the Cell arc, I have them at 1st to 2nd Form Frieza tier, or maybe they are probably just Captain Ginyu to 1st Form Frieza tier. That's up for anyone's interpretation. I'm certain, however, that Yamcha is not below 50K, or Tien and Krillin below the 100K.

Strange, I personally have Cell Arc Yamcha at around 20,000-25,000.

I just don't have him that weak considering he trained with King Kai, and then 3 years for the Androids. The training with King Kai should get him to 30K-37K at best (ignoring the bad Yamcha vs Recoome filler) considering the big boost Goku received by training by himself, I guess Yamcha training with partners on King Kai's planet (Tien and Chiaotzu) would get him the same boost as Goku did.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I just don't have him that weak considering he trained with King Kai, and then 3 years for the Androids. The training with King Kai should get him to 30K-37K at best (ignoring the bad Yamcha vs Recoome filler) considering the big boost Goku received by training by himself, I guess Yamcha training with partners on King Kai's planet (Tien and Chiaotzu) would get him the same boost as Goku did.

Yamcha didn't spend as much time as Goku did on King Kai's planet, and he most likely didn't train as hard either as he doesn't have the motivation and he's not a Saiyan.

[dragonball0900]

I just don't have him that weak considering he trained with King Kai, and then 3 years for the Androids. The training with King Kai should get him to 30K-37K at best (ignoring the bad Yamcha vs Recoome filler) considering the big boost Goku received by training by himself, I guess Yamcha training with partners on King Kai's planet (Tien and Chiaotzu) would get him the same boost as Goku did.

Yamcha didn't spend as much time as Goku did on King Kai's planet, and he most likely didn't train as hard either as he doesn't have the motivation and he's not a Saiyan.

He did spent 130 days, which isn't that far from 158 days. He had Tien and Chiaotzu as partners too. Yes, he doesn't have the same motivation as before, but who says he didn't at least try? I don't really have him as weak as people tend to think.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I just don't have him that weak considering he trained with King Kai, and then 3 years for the Androids. The training with King Kai should get him to 30K-37K at best (ignoring the bad Yamcha vs Recoome filler) considering the big boost Goku received by training by himself, I guess Yamcha training with partners on King Kai's planet (Tien and Chiaotzu) would get him the same boost as Goku did.

Yamcha didn't spend as much time as Goku did on King Kai's planet, and he most likely didn't train as hard either as he doesn't have the motivation and he's not a Saiyan.

He did spent 130 days, which isn't that far from 158 days. He had Tien and Chiaotzu as partners too. Yes, he doesn't have the same motivation as before, but who says he didn't at least try? I don't really have him as weak as people tend to think.

A large part of Goku's huge gains was due to his Saiyan heritage, though, the humans don't have the same ability to grow.

[dragonball0900]

Yamcha didn't spend as much time as Goku did on King Kai's planet, and he most likely didn't train as hard either as he doesn't have the motivation and he's not a Saiyan.

He did spent 130 days, which isn't that far from 158 days. He had Tien and Chiaotzu as partners too. Yes, he doesn't have the same motivation as before, but who says he didn't at least try? I don't really have him as weak as people tend to think.

A large part of Goku's huge gains was due to his Saiyan heritage, though, the humans don't have the same ability to grow.

Well, the humans managed to get from 177, 206 and 250 up to 1480, 1770 and 1830 in one year, also they trained together in King Kai's planet while Goku just trained by himself, making the humans' gains at least equal to Goku's. If the humans trained by themselves then their gains wouldn't be as big as Goku's, that's true. It was stated through DB that training with partners was better than training alone. I'm not saying that the humans have the same potential as the Saiyans, but they surely have some potential in them.

[TheUltimateNinja]

He did spent 130 days, which isn't that far from 158 days. He had Tien and Chiaotzu as partners too. Yes, he doesn't have the same motivation as before, but who says he didn't at least try? I don't really have him as weak as people tend to think.

A large part of Goku's huge gains was due to his Saiyan heritage, though, the humans don't have the same ability to grow.

Well, the humans managed to get from 177, 206 and 250 up to 1480, 1770 and 1830 in one year, also they trained together in King Kai's planet while Goku just trained by himself, making the humans' gains at least equal to Goku's. If the humans trained by themselves then their gains wouldn't be as big as Goku's, that's true. It was stated through DB that training with partners was better than training alone. I'm not saying that the humans have the same potential as the Saiyans, but they surely have some potential in them.

Androids Arc Yamcha is comparable to Saiyan Arc Saiyans, so at best he's at 35-40,000, I personally just choose to put him lower at 23,000 or so.

[dragonball0900]

A large part of Goku's huge gains was due to his Saiyan heritage, though, the humans don't have the same ability to grow.

Well, the humans managed to get from 177, 206 and 250 up to 1480, 1770 and 1830 in one year, also they trained together in King Kai's planet while Goku just trained by himself, making the humans' gains at least equal to Goku's. If the humans trained by themselves then their gains wouldn't be as big as Goku's, that's true. It was stated through DB that training with partners was better than training alone. I'm not saying that the humans have the same potential as the Saiyans, but they surely have some potential in them.

Androids Arc Yamcha is comparable to Saiyan Arc Saiyans, so at best he's at 35-40,000, I personally just choose to put him lower at 23,000 or so.

Well, yeah it's actually debatable the humans' powers at the Cell arc so I guess it's just up to anyone's opinion.

[TobyS]

Androids Arc Yamcha is comparable to Saiyan Arc Saiyans, so at best he's at 35-40,000, I personally just choose to put him lower at 23,000 or so.

Actually all Gero tells us is that Yamcha is at or above whatever lifetime gain range he projected for saiyan arc Goku at that many years into that range.

In other words Yamcha is above kkx4 Goku and below base Goku from BoG.

So nothing we didn't already know.

[The_Destroyer]

I don't think the Humans ever reached a million, but I don't think Yamcha is Nappa level. Especially considering his kaio training. He has sparring partners and harder training, both of which of Goku didn't have. Should be Ginyu force-tier at least.

[Soppa Saia People]

Somewhere between 1st form Freeza and 2nd form Freeza.