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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:15 am

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Lord Beerus wrote:I really am incredibly intrigued to see who will voice Champa and Vados.
I hope and pray that Vados will be voiced by the talented Vic Mignogna, she's got great range. For Champa I see no one better to voice him than Peter Kelamis he's got the perfect pitch to pull him off.
I would not be surprised if Sabat cast Vic as Zamasu. He's the most talented and well known actor who works at Funimation from their early days. Todd got a chance to voice another character jumping from Tarble to Jaco, so I could see Sabat giving Vic another chance to voice a character by jumping from Broly to Zamasu.
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:49 am

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Lord Beerus wrote:I really am incredibly intrigued to see who will voice Champa and Vados.
I hope and pray that Vados will be voiced by the talented Vic Mignogna, she's got great range. For Champa I see no one better to voice him than Peter Kelamis he's got the perfect pitch to pull him off.
I would not be surprised if Sabat cast Vic as Zamasu. He's the most talented and well known actor who works at Funimation from their early days. Todd got a chance to voice another character jumping from Tarble to Jaco, so I could see Sabat giving Vic another chance to voice a character by jumping from Broly to Zamasu.
Actually, hope they get the guy who voiced Demigra for Zamasu, his voice would fit perfectly.
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Post by Gog » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:54 am

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Gog wrote:
I hope and pray that Vados will be voiced by the talented Vic Mignogna, she's got great range. For Champa I see no one better to voice him than Peter Kelamis he's got the perfect pitch to pull him off.
I would not be surprised if Sabat cast Vic as Zamasu. He's the most talented and well known actor who works at Funimation from their early days. Todd got a chance to voice another character jumping from Tarble to Jaco, so I could see Sabat giving Vic another chance to voice a character by jumping from Broly to Zamasu.
Actually, hope they get the guy who voiced Demigra for Zamasu, his voice would fit perfectly.
I would find it ironic if Linda Young managed to voice him. Man it would also make such good conversations with Freeza

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:37 am

Vic could work for Zamasu but I could see a issue stemming from his one of 2 yelling voices. He either has the high, somewhat scratchy yells he does when playing Edward Elric, and the low growling voice for Broly. Thats all I hear from him when he has to talk in a yelling voice. The problem is I see neither working with Zamasu, especially when he starts snapping later on in the arc.

That said I dont think he would be the best choice for the character. Likewise actors like Todd Haberkorn and Micah Solusod have voices that I think would suit Zamasu just fine but they are also kinda stuck with that one relative voice that they use for a number of roles. It would be difficult listening to Zamasu when you hear Jaco or Tagoma coming from him.

I remember someone mentioning John Burgmeier and while somewhat deep for Zamasu, I could see it working. He did do Kurama in Yu Yu Hakusho after all. Not to mention Gregory (wow...).

Theres also Joel McDonald who has nothing to do with Dragon Ball aside from CAC voices in Ultimate Tenkaichi and Xenoverse 1-2.

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Post by orphen2005 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:49 am

And again false event alarms and no info to be seen... anyone knows anything?

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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:16 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Vic could work for Zamasu but I could see a issue stemming from his one of 2 yelling voices. He either has the high, somewhat scratchy yells he does when playing Edward Elric, and the low growling voice for Broly. Thats all I hear from him when he has to talk in a yelling voice. The problem is I see neither working with Zamasu, especially when he starts snapping later on in the arc.

That said I dont think he would be the best choice for the character. Likewise actors like Todd Haberkorn and Micah Solusod have voices that I think would suit Zamasu just fine but they are also kinda stuck with that one relative voice that they use for a number of roles. It would be difficult listening to Zamasu when you hear Jaco or Tagoma coming from him.

I remember someone mentioning John Burgmeier and while somewhat deep for Zamasu, I could see it working. He did do Kurama in Yu Yu Hakusho after all. Not to mention Gregory (wow...).

Theres also Joel McDonald who has nothing to do with Dragon Ball aside from CAC voices in Ultimate Tenkaichi and Xenoverse 1-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIMRmwxZ7IM
I remembered Joel from Psycho Pass and then I realized who I want my Zamasu to be. Alex Organ who played Makishima from Psycho Pass. He could make Zamasu's Monologue-ing PERFECT. Haven't heard him yell in any anime though so I can't tell how good he'd do crazy Zamasu. But he's got the pride Zamasu down perfectly.

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:36 am

It's probably going to end up being either Vic or Joel for Zamasu. Also, do we pronounce it Zamas or Zamasu?
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Post by YonedgeHP » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:26 pm

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:It's probably going to end up being either Vic or Joel for Zamasu. Also, do we pronounce it Zamas or Zamasu?
According to Viz and Bandai is Zamas (spelled that way also), the Japanese version also uses Zamas for the pronunciation.
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orphen2005 wrote:And again false event alarms and no info to be seen... anyone knows anything?
a new freezer siege has just started.. and still no info..

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:02 pm

YonedgeHP wrote:The Japanese version also uses Zamas for the pronunciation.
Some characters say it "Zamas", while others use "Zamasu". One notable example of the latter is Merged Zamasu upon his Fusion. I personally use "Zamasu" because the u is much more satisfying.
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:27 pm

The name "Zamasu" isn't exactly pun on anything the way things usually get changed with extended or rearranged vowels; it's an actual word as-is. That's the primary reason why we spell it out in full here at Kanzenshuu. When the word is the word, we spell it as the word (see: Trunks, Cell).

Much like "desu" (です) is a state-of-being verb, so too is "zamasu". Also much like "desu", the terminal vowel can be devoiced. It isn't always, though. It can come down to gender roles in some cases. In Super itself, Gowasu tended to elongate/emphasize the vowel in early appearances, while devoicing it as time went on. I don't know why that is, or if the actor was even conscious of it.

Personally, I try to find a balance between voicing and devoicing the terminal vowel. I feel like if we're going to spell it out that way, might as well acknowledge it.

Anyway, I probably shouldn't explain and regurgitate things I'm not 100% on myself, but that's that.
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Post by Khin » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:38 pm

I’ve always find “Zamas” as weird and off-putting. I think “Zamasu” sounds much more natural and overall a much better and pleasant pronunciation.

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Post by YonedgeHP » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:25 pm

VegettoEX wrote:The name "Zamasu" isn't exactly pun on anything the way things usually get changed with extended or rearranged vowels; it's an actual word as-is. That's the primary reason why we spell it out in full here at Kanzenshuu. When the word is the word, we spell it as the word (see: Trunks, Cell).

Much like "desu" (です) is a state-of-being verb, so too is "zamasu". Also much like "desu", the terminal vowel can be devoiced. It isn't always, though. It can come down to gender roles in some cases. In Super itself, Gowasu tended to elongate/emphasize the vowel in early appearances, while devoicing it as time went on. I don't know why that is, or if the actor was even conscious of it.

Personally, I try to find a balance between voicing and devoicing the terminal vowel. I feel like if we're going to spell it out that way, might as well acknowledge it.

Anyway, I probably shouldn't explain and regurgitate things I'm not 100% on myself, but that's that.
I had the doubt whether this change of pronunciation was due to the local dialect of the seiyū or if it was a simple gender role. After fusing, more characters use the pronunciation of Zamasu, most of all Goku.

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:16 pm

YonedgeHP wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:The name "Zamasu" isn't exactly pun on anything the way things usually get changed with extended or rearranged vowels; it's an actual word as-is. That's the primary reason why we spell it out in full here at Kanzenshuu. When the word is the word, we spell it as the word (see: Trunks, Cell).

Much like "desu" (です) is a state-of-being verb, so too is "zamasu". Also much like "desu", the terminal vowel can be devoiced. It isn't always, though. It can come down to gender roles in some cases. In Super itself, Gowasu tended to elongate/emphasize the vowel in early appearances, while devoicing it as time went on. I don't know why that is, or if the actor was even conscious of it.

Personally, I try to find a balance between voicing and devoicing the terminal vowel. I feel like if we're going to spell it out that way, might as well acknowledge it.

Anyway, I probably shouldn't explain and regurgitate things I'm not 100% on myself, but that's that.
I had the doubt whether this change of pronunciation was due to the local dialect of the seiyū or if it was a simple gender role. After fusing, more characters use the pronunciation of Zamasu, most of all Goku.

Thanks for the explanation!
Well considering that Bandai Namco is listing him as Zamasu, I guess that's how they'll say it in the game in terms of the English audio
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:13 am

You know sometimes I wished that the transformation's had gargantuan increases on all of your stats, however each race has a higher increase on their race spesific perks. But this would be completely broken. Still doesn't mean that I'd love it.

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Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:51 am

A good example of this is Kill la Kill. In the dub they cut ALL the U's. Yet kept them for the subs and text and the common accepted term is with the U's. Examples include Senketsu>Senkets. Junketsu>Junkets. Mankanshoku>Mankanshok. ETC.

So despite that being a Bang Zoom (I think, it was Aniplex) dub. Funi will most likely go with Zamas. Then again we got Beerus instead of Beers so I really don't know.
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Post by TobyS » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Does any know if they have fixed the bug where you can't wish for all the moves if you wish for the moves from gurus extended list before wishing for the first lot, causing the first wish option to dissapear...

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Post by simtek34 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:03 pm

Here's to hoping we get Super Saiyan Black and Super Saiyan God Goku with Whis Gi as part of a free update

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Post by Grimlock » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:56 pm

simtek34 wrote:Super Saiyan God Goku with Whis Gi as part of a free update
Huh? Has Goku ever appeared like that? Can't remember. But speaking of it, for a free update, I expect Super Saiyan Rage Future Trunks and probably Merged Zamasu if he won't make it in paid DLC.

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Post by ZeroDio » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:01 pm

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simtek34 wrote:Super Saiyan God Goku with Whis Gi as part of a free update
Huh? Has Goku ever appeared like that? Can't remember. But speaking of it, for a free update, I expect Super Saiyan Rage Future Trunks and probably Merged Zamasu if he won't make it in paid DLC.
In the manga version of Super, SSJ God Goku in Whis Gi was done instead of SSJ Blue Kaioken

Plus the manga expanded Black by Showing that he could use Regular Super Saiyan as well

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