What do you like/dislike about the Season box sets?

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Post by Ex-Dubbie369 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:30 pm

Wait, what's the Australian packaging like?

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:53 pm

It's just an average fatpack.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:23 pm

I'm really getting tired of the complaining.

Liked
The improved video quality (I watched the set and the Ultimate Uncut eps. at the same time. Big differences. Plus the fact that I re-adjusted my TV settings)

The english w/ JPN music, because Mark Menza's music sucks

The fact that for the last 7 episodes of season 2, they kept them as they were with a few redubbings, but they kept Bruce Falconer's music, and the old voices for the most part.

Disliked
Inconsistant dubbing. Sometimes it was accurate, sometimes it wasn't.

The way the box was set up

Mark Menza's music

Contrast issues and some things disappearing.

In between
The letterbow. It did crop some of the footage, but some of the people here over-exaggerated the amount of footage cropped to ridiculous levels. It didn't really get in the way, and now, I actually prefer for some strange reason.

I thought they were good. Bring on Season 3!

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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:05 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Liked
The improved video quality (I watched the set and the Ultimate Uncut eps. at the same time. Big differences. Plus the fact that I re-adjusted my TV settings)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

Are we talking about the same set? The new set? The widescreen one, right? The one that has scratches, tears, over-saturated brightened washed-out colour?

You think it looks better?

The colours were oversaturated, too dark, and dirty:
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But they were never this bad:
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"Better"? Seriously?

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Post by Jerseymilk » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:40 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm really getting tired of the complaining.
The subject of this thread is what people liked and disliked about the sets, so I fail to see what your gripe is.
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Post by balrog » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:36 am

desirecampbell wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Liked
The improved video quality (I watched the set and the Ultimate Uncut eps. at the same time. Big differences. Plus the fact that I re-adjusted my TV settings)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

Are we talking about the same set? The new set? The widescreen one, right? The one that has scratches, tears, over-saturated brightened washed-out colour?

You think it looks better?

The colours were oversaturated, too dark, and dirty:
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But they were never this bad:
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"Better"? Seriously?
Split-second little glitches (not the head being cut off, the other two). Get a picture of a regular shot and then compare it. But wait, you can't, because no one would actually bother to compare something that would be non-slanderous!

Tell me desire, have you ever actually watched anything from the box sets? Or have you just looked at pictures that people have posted?

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Post by desirecampbell » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:16 am

balrog wrote:Split-second little glitches (not the head being cut off, the other two). Get a picture of a regular shot and then compare it. But wait, you can't, because no one would actually bother to compare something that would be non-slanderous!

Tell me desire, have you ever actually watched anything from the box sets? Or have you just looked at pictures that people have posted?
Uh -wha? Bwa? Do you have the attention span of a goldfish?
In the other thread, in response to YOU, I wrote:They're not "one second glitches", they're indicative of the whole product. Some errors are just single frame problems: like the damaged frames and tears, but the above referenced ones are not.

Have you actually watched the boxsets? They're really bad. Besides the obvious cropping, all the colours are darkened, blurred, then washed out.

Noone is saying that you'd be a "bad fan" if you bought the sets (well, one guy is, but he's the exception), we just can't recommend the sets to anyone. I bought the season one set because I wanted the subs. Period. I've got the second season on the way, and I'll get the third season too.Just for the subs.

I can't even watch the season set I have. I haven't seen the episodes in Dragonbox quality myself, but from the screenshots I've seen the old UUE releases are substantially lesser quality. I can watch the UUE episodes, I can see the flaws, but they don't ruin the show. The season one boxset, however, is absolutely terrible. I can't watch it. I can't watch it. It's so ugly it hurts me. Wash-outs, rips, bad colours, worse crops - it's just painful to watch.

And from what I've seen of the season two set, it gets worse.
Red text is what you apparently failed to read, while the rest you just failed to understand.

Have you ever actually watched anything from the box sets?

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Post by theoriginalbilis » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:20 am

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You guys do realize this is a doctored shot, right? Not a shot from the actual Season 3 set... it can be somewhat indicative of the 3rd set's quality, but not really, since this is just a screencap from the original Freeza DVDs that someone just photoshopped.


Oh yeah, and let's not get into another arguement over these sets. The people who want & don't want these sets are going to stick to their guns no matter how much debate (arguing) goes on.

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Post by Steven Perry » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:20 am

desirecampbell wrote: But they were never this bad:
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"Better"? Seriously?
Oh god, I get claustrophobic, frustrated, and sweaty (with increased heart rate) when I look at that... I need to hit somebody...

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:44 pm

Really, this thread is really just a way for all of you to complain about the set. I have two DVD players and two TV's in my room, and I watched both the original DVD's and the sets at the same time. There's a huge improvement, trust me. No grain, and I changed my video settings, so the colors are how they supposed to be: unsaturated, not too bright, or anything. It looks just like the JPN masters. And that Frieza pic looks shopped because the letterbox doesn't take up that much footage. And why can't you appreciate the set for what it is. I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?

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Post by Duo » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:55 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Really, this thread is really just a way for all of you to complain about the set. I have two DVD players and two TV's in my room, and I watched both the original DVD's and the sets at the same time. There's a huge improvement, trust me. No grain, and I changed my video settings, so the colors are how they supposed to be: unsaturated, not too bright, or anything. It looks just like the JPN masters. And that Freeza pic looks shopped because the letterbox doesn't take up that much footage. And why can't you appreciate the set for what it is. I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?
We're allowed to think on our own. Just because you disagree doesn't mean we can't post in a thread where WE ARE ASKED FOR OUR OPINION. Get over yourself, and you'd make a much better argument if you posted side by side screen shots, like, uh, the people who researched this and posted them numerous times before you became a part of the subject matter. Look a few pages back in the Forum.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:04 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?
Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:15 pm

Vegard Aune wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?
Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.
But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets

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Post by Duo » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:21 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?
Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.
But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets
No, only ETC123 and a couple others actually believe that. If you buy these sets solely because you aren't picky and they're cheap, it doesn't make you a bad fan, it just means you don't care as much about your product. You'll take what you are given. Whereas many of us demand better because of higher standards and familiarity with the Japanese DVD release, which makes a joke out of FUNimation.

That and the release is full of lies and false advertising.

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Post by Steven Perry » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:23 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I bought both sets, and enjoyed them. Am I a bad fan for that?
Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.
But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets
If you own the Season sets, you should hide your head in a bag when in public. They're a disgrace to the human race, they sucking f*ck and f*cking suck, and I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk. They're a piece of dog shit that has been rotting for 3 days in the sun, and are equivalent to the slimy scum from the depths of the sewers. So, in short, you must really, really, really, HATE Dragonball Z to even look at these 'sets'.



Just kidding. I'm going to buy these sets soon- what I just said was a sort of parody on the people who don't think you're a 'true fan' if you own them. Screw those punks.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:24 pm

Duo wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote: Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.
But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets
No, only ETC123 and a couple others actually believe that. If you buy these sets solely because you aren't picky and they're cheap, it doesn't make you a bad fan, it just means you don't care as much about your product. You'll take what you are given. Whereas many of us demand better because of higher standards and familiarity with the Japanese DVD release, which makes a joke out of FUNimation.

That and the release is full of lies and false advertising.
But I bought them because I wanted it. I like the series, but I'm not gonna import Japanese sets. I'm just gonna enjoy the set for what it is, and I'm gonna continue to buy the sets.

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Post by Duo » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:26 pm

We don't want to import the Japanese sets either - hence, being angry that these ones are crap comparatively. You settled, many of us won't. We have higher standards. Some people like Skim Milk, and people like me can't drink anything less than 2%. That's life.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:27 pm

Steven Perry wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote: Of course not. I could enjoy the episodes on the Season 1-set too, but if you compare these sets with the singles, the only points where these sets are undeniably superior are the price and episode counts, really. Personally, if I could get the remaining seasons through the single-releases for the same price as the season-sets, I would.
But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets
If you own the Season sets, you should hide your head in a bag when in public. They're a disgrace to the human race, they sucking f*ck and f*cking suck, and I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk. They're a piece of dog shit that has been rotting for 3 days in the sun, and are equivalent to the slimy scum from the depths of the sewers. So, in short, you must really, really, really, HATE Dragonball Z to even look at these 'sets'.



Just kidding. I'm going to buy these sets soon- what I just said was a sort of parody on the people who don't think you're a 'true fan' if you own them. Screw those punks.
:roll: I hate people like you. Look - I've enjoyed the show since I was 7 years old, I know as much about it as anyone here. Why can't I be a true fan just because I like the sets?

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:29 pm

Duo wrote:We don't want to import the Japanese sets either - hence, being angry that these ones are crap comparatively. You settled, many of us won't. We have higher standards. Some people like Skim Milk, and people like me can't drink anything less than 2%. That's life.
It has nothing to do with standards. I enjoyed it for what it is.

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Post by SonEric84 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:30 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Steven Perry wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: But lots of people here act like you're not a true fan if you enjoy the sets
If you own the Season sets, you should hide your head in a bag when in public. They're a disgrace to the human race, they sucking f*ck and f*cking suck, and I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk. They're a piece of dog shit that has been rotting for 3 days in the sun, and are equivalent to the slimy scum from the depths of the sewers. So, in short, you must really, really, really, HATE Dragonball Z to even look at these 'sets'.



Just kidding. I'm going to buy these sets soon- what I just said was a sort of parody on the people who don't think you're a 'true fan' if you own them. Screw those punks.
:roll: I hate people like you. Look - I've enjoyed the show since I was 7 years old, I know as much about it as anyone here. Why can't I be a true fan just because I like the sets?

You missed the small text in his post at the bottom.

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