Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:22 am

Forget nudity for fanservice and stuff like that. I want partial nudity such as clothes getting fucked up from fights and such. The lack of that makes fights a lot more uninteresting and is part of what makes the fights feel like plastic action figures clashing rather than two actual people. (The hair feeling static as often as it is also adds to that feeling of them being action figures)
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Post by Smilodon » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:43 am

We need to see a sexy scene with Vados.
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Post by Fionordequester » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:04 am

Smilodon wrote:We need to see a sexy scene with Vados.
I don't know. DB Super Angels don't seem like they're emotionally invested in...well, anything really. "Sexiness" seems more in the realm of the Gods/Goddesses of Destruction; like Helles.
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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by MaxZ » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:40 am

sexual fan service is lousy and does nothing but lower the quality of whatever it's used in

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:48 am

MaxZ wrote:sexual fan service is lousy and does nothing but lower the quality of whatever it's used in
Not quite. It can be used well, but subtlety is key and it has to make sense. Digibro has a couple videos about that which are really good.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:12 am

simtek34 wrote:After reading all four pages of this topic, I am now horrified at what Toei would do if they ever Re-Animate the Original Dragonball... :shock:
Didn't they already censor dicks in Kai? So I would expect that but I will expect jokes to be in tact they casually mention Bulma's boobs quite a bit in Super and they're not holding back on Roshi either.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:01 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Didn't they already censor dicks in Kai?
Nope, Vegeta is still a part of kai
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Post by Smilodon » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:50 am

Fionordequester wrote:
Smilodon wrote:We need to see a sexy scene with Vados.
I don't know. DB Super Angels don't seem like they're emotionally invested in...well, anything really. "Sexiness" seems more in the realm of the Gods/Goddesses of Destruction; like Helles.
We don't know.... But in the other hand we could see someone interested in her (like Roshi or Yamcha for example)
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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Doctor. » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:27 pm

No, I miss the battle damage, if that counts as nudity, but it's a good thing that the sexual fanservice is gone for good. It had no place in the series and it's something even Toriyama stopped doing after a certain point. Sexual fanservice in anime usually tries to convey no point besides being a lazy way to grab the attention of the 'otaku'.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by MaxZ » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:13 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
simtek34 wrote:After reading all four pages of this topic, I am now horrified at what Toei would do if they ever Re-Animate the Original Dragonball... :shock:
Didn't they already censor dicks in Kai? So I would expect that but I will expect jokes to be in tact they casually mention Bulma's boobs quite a bit in Super and they're not holding back on Roshi either.
no, not in the uncut version. I don't think.

kai gets a bad rep because of the 4kids blue popo stuff that gets circulated, but that's not the real version.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Nejishiki » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:17 pm

I don't think Toriyama's use of nudity lasted enough (or managed to imprint itself as one of Dragon Ball's prime identities) to feel any sense of disappointment from its absence. The story progressed away from making that a humorous device. At this stage, I'd argue its return would be rather jarring (at least, if the script chooses to mirror the past executions of nudity). Personally, it wasn't a lingering thought so I'm not particularly longing for nudity when experiencing Dragon Ball Super. If you feel that strongly about the subject, in general, I'm certain there are authors who are willing to accommodate those interests. I wouldn't expect or demand it from the ongoing direction of the series.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:57 pm

Not really. There's a lot of more important things to be disappointed at with Super but nudity ain't it. I'd rather they fix the whole lack of battle damage problem.


Though I'd be cool with more manservice/fanservice as long as it doesn't go for easy targets like Goku and Bulma. Give us Gohan, Piccolo, Chi-Chi, #18, Videl, Cabba, Whis, and Vados fanservice.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:12 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Though I'd be cool with more manservice/fanservice as long as it doesn't go for easy targets like Goku and Bulma. Give us Gohan, Piccolo, Chi-Chi, #18, Videl, Cabba, Whis, and Vados fanservice.
Whis, Vados, #18, Chi-Chi, and Piccolo I could get; but Videl, Gohan, and Cabba don't seem like the sort of characters who'd be comfortable showing off their bodies. Any "fanservicey" moment involving those three seems like it'd have to be forced, doesn't it?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:18 am

As said earlier, the outright nudity basically ended in the Saiyan arc. It's not something I particularly care for to anyway (though, as a kid it made me feel more "mature" and "adult" when I found out about the nudity in the Japanese version :lol: ), nor am I really dead-set against it. I don't really care anyway, and besides, if anyone wants nude Dragon Ball characters, it's exceedingly easy to find.

As others have chimed, the battle damage (and the consistency of it compared to every other show at the time, even prior Toei anime like Fist of the North Star) was really cool to me as a kid (and still is). It's something we really need more of in Dragon Ball Super (as well as non-shitty bruises and other wounds that don't look like chicken scratches), and it, along with the stale outfits, is making Dragon Ball feel stagnant, whereas the original series always had a sense of progression throughout even the fights themselves, as well as the series in general with the updated outfits characters would get from time to time (some each arc, like Bulma, Vegeta and Yamcha).

Goku should either be in his RoF outfit now, or he should be in his End of Z one. With all of the foreshadowing of Vegeta softening up even more, they'd better give Vegeta a new, more casual Earth-wear outfit for the next arc.
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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Kokonoe » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:07 am

I actually think it's pretty cool the sexual fan service is next to non existent, and tbh, Super doesn't need it either.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:12 am

Fionordequester wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Though I'd be cool with more manservice/fanservice as long as it doesn't go for easy targets like Goku and Bulma. Give us Gohan, Piccolo, Chi-Chi, #18, Videl, Cabba, Whis, and Vados fanservice.
Whis, Vados, #18, Chi-Chi, and Piccolo I could get; but Videl, Gohan, and Cabba don't seem like the sort of characters who'd be comfortable showing off their bodies. Any "fanservicey" moment involving those three seems like it'd have to be forced, doesn't it?
Nah... that'd make it even hotter.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Fionordequester » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:19 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote: Nah... that'd make it even hotter.
...I don't know, I mean...wouldn't that send mixed signals? Ain't it kind of hard to enjoy a moment when someone else isn't?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:21 am

Fionordequester wrote: Ain't it kind of hard to enjoy a moment when someone else isn't?
For some people, that's exactly what they need to enjoy the moment..
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Post by precita » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:51 am

We saw Bulma wearing just a towel in an episode after getting out of a shower...I guess that's as close to nudity as you'll get now.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:56 am

Fionordequester wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote: Nah... that'd make it even hotter.
...I don't know, I mean...wouldn't that send mixed signals? Ain't it kind of hard to enjoy a moment when someone else isn't?
For people that has sadistic tendencies thats actually a treat, I for one enjoy comedy the most when they bully or hurt someone in a funny sense, ex. Gintama,KonoSuba etc.... its actually fun watching someone getting dragged into something against their wills, it makes it all the more entertaining.

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