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Post by Duo » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:22 am

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Duo wrote:By that standard, Cell should have died in the Anime when he attained Full Power to try and stop Super Saiya'jin 2 Gohan, because he was screaming for like...14 minutes straight.

Mind you, this isn't the "bulk up" thing either.
The real reason is though, that in the manga they only scream for a couple of seconds, while in the anime they want to drag everything out as filler.
I don't think you remember what my posts consisted of a year or two ago.

Which was me being the biggest Manga-purist anti-Toei jackass on the entire board.

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Post by ect5150 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:05 pm

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MajinVejitaXV wrote:And yet he had the ability to go SSJ at will when Trunks arrived. To me, that indicates a certain degree of being accustomed to the transformation.
And this is three years later.
And yet he still yells for the transformations sometimes and others he doesn't. The arguments you guys are making for the 'pain' aren't consistent if you apply the logic to different scenes, no matter how you twist it. (remember, this point was made saying Goku yelled each time his arm/leg/chest got larger in the english version because it hurt him to do so)

Corey made the simplest argument... its just a kiai yell. It applies uniformly to ALL individuals that transform into a SSJ. The arguments of "pain" doesn't work half of the time because we still have situations where they yell after they should have become accustom to the transformation.

That's why its baseless and that's why a few of you are "grasping at straws" to keep your argument alive. In order to add another valid point, it must strengthen your argument, but at the same time show us why ours is wrong!
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:31 pm

ect5150 wrote:That's why its baseless and that's why a few of you are "grasping at straws" to keep your argument alive. In order to add another valid point, it must strengthen your argument, but at the same time show us why ours is wrong!
I'm only arguing for this one specific time. I blame the heart disease.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:47 pm

Rocketman wrote:I'm only arguing for this one specific time. I blame the heart disease.
Yes. Because one actor out of many countries decided to stress every muscle expanding in size. Just like they stress any sort of sounds made while fighting, are never silent, etc. :P

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Post by Rocketman » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:11 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Rocketman wrote:I'm only arguing for this one specific time. I blame the heart disease.
Yes. Because one actor out of many countries decided to stress every muscle expanding in size. Just like they stress any sort of sounds made while fighting, are never silent, etc. :P

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Well, obviously it's a dubbing oddity. But it's more fun to find an in-universe explanation. :P

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:59 pm

Rocketman wrote:Well, obviously it's a dubbing oddity. But it's more fun to find an in-universe explanation. :P
I come from the Phantasy Star fandom, where idiots tried to explain a translation error (a character who appears in 3 of the 4 original games was named something different in the localization of the first game, then translated properly for the other 2) by saying the same person wasn't the same person. In-universe explanations suck sometimes :P

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Post by Godo » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:09 pm

Duo wrote:
Godo wrote:
Duo wrote:By that standard, Cell should have died in the Anime when he attained Full Power to try and stop Super Saiya'jin 2 Gohan, because he was screaming for like...14 minutes straight.

Mind you, this isn't the "bulk up" thing either.
The real reason is though, that in the manga they only scream for a couple of seconds, while in the anime they want to drag everything out as filler.
I don't think you remember what my posts consisted of a year or two ago.

Which was me being the biggest Manga-purist anti-Toei jackass on the entire board.
Yeah, I know. My point was not to bash the anime, just to say something logical. :)
But yeah, going by the anime itself, it makes sense.

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Post by sangofe » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:22 pm

The uploader of the clips, said:
So this is the 6th Dragonball Z Dub comparison,
Where are the other five?

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Post by Timo » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:19 pm

Youtube is your friend. ;)

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Post by Alice » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:56 pm

Das Deutsch ist mein Liebling.

It's voices seemed natural sounding, excluding the yelling.

Hungarian Piccolo scares me, he sounds like the Cookie Monster after a rough night.


(Yes, I know my German grammar is often slightly off.)

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:43 pm

Alice wrote:(Yes, I know my German grammar is often slightly off.)
Ich bin ein Berliner.

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Post by Timo » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:26 pm

LOL :lol:

Seriously, in my opinion German is a pretty difficult language. Especially with all the dialects. Also, the retarded politicians often change the spelling of some words. Image

Back to the topic:
Don't be deceived. The German dub is da sh17!
Most of the voices are far away from the Japanese version, the script is complete bullshit and the acting often sucks. Wow...it could be from FUNimation. :roll:

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Post by Alice » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:15 am

Okay, maybe way off? I'm still learning. Not trying that again... :oops:
Timo wrote:Back to the topic:
Don't be deceived. The German dub is da sh17!
Most of the voices are far away from the Japanese version, the script is complete bullshit and the acting often sucks. Wow...it could be from FUNimation. :roll:
Actually, after looking at more from Germany I changed my mind, it's not great. Okay sometimes, though. A lot like the English version, really.

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Post by Snail » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:02 am

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWAvVU96XJ4

I always thought that the cantonese dub was really well done. It had stayed close to the original content, as well as staying 'fun' with it as well. But my opinions are all bias =P, they voices don't really sync up well with the character's lip movements, but I always enjoyed the voices.

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Post by sangofe » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:31 pm

Timo wrote:Youtube is your friend. ;)
Nobody used the french dub :/

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Post by sangofe » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:33 pm

Snail wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWAvVU96XJ4

I always thought that the cantonese dub was really well done. It had stayed close to the original content, as well as staying 'fun' with it as well. But my opinions are all bias =P, they voices don't really sync up well with the character's lip movements, but I always enjoyed the voices.
I've always disliked strongly the Cantonese dub...

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Post by PaperSun » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:42 pm

Seeing as to how every other dub used the original music, I think we can pretty much tell that Funi's quote about not being able to acquire the music rights is a bunch of crap. If some little Portuguese dubbing company can get the rights for the music from Toei, I think Funimation can.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:54 pm

PaperSun wrote:Seeing as to how every other dub used the original music, I think we can pretty much tell that Funi's quote about not being able to acquire the music rights is a bunch of crap. If some little Portuguese dubbing company can get the rights for the music from Toei, I think Funimation can.
I like FUNi's music better.

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Post by Timo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:07 pm

sangofe wrote:
Snail wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWAvVU96XJ4

I always thought that the cantonese dub was really well done. It had stayed close to the original content, as well as staying 'fun' with it as well. But my opinions are all bias =P, they voices don't really sync up well with the character's lip movements, but I always enjoyed the voices.
I've always disliked strongly the Cantonese dub...
Mhm...yeah. After all those positive comments about the Cantonese dub, I'm pretty disappointed.
Sure you can hardly say the dub is bad after a few clips, but...I don't know. I've expected some better stuff.

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Post by Shenron » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:59 pm

sangofe wrote:
Timo wrote:Youtube is your friend. ;)
Nobody used the french dub :/
Here we go (go to the end of the episode to see Goku's transformation).

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/dbz+1 ... z_creation

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