Season Four set arrives 2/19/2008

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:08 pm

I think this long wait is good. We had to wait 4 months for Season 3, and that ended up looking way better than the previous two sets. Maybe this time, they'll do away with their current prints actually restore it!

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:18 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I think this long wait is good. We had to wait 4 months for Season 3, and that ended up looking way better than the previous two sets. Maybe this time, they'll do away with their current prints actually restore it!

Won't happen. First off, they don't have the balls to put forth a budget for a true frame-by-frame remastering effort. And second: Remember, they swore to be consistent with these releases, and they've already paid for the whole series to be run through them VP&T machines. FUNi won't be changing the format of the new releases anymore than Gen Fukunaga would make a sex tape with Chris Sabat.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:26 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I think this long wait is good. We had to wait 4 months for Season 3, and that ended up looking way better than the previous two sets. Maybe this time, they'll do away with their current prints actually restore it!
Won't happen. First off, they don't have the balls to put forth a budget for a true frame-by-frame remastering effort. And second: Remember, they swore to be consistent with these releases, and they've already paid for the whole series to be run through them VP&T machines. FUNi won't be changing the format of the new releases anymore than Gen Fukunaga would make a sex tape with Chris Sabat.

How the hell do you think Sabat got his damn job in the first place!? You think he was hired because of his talent and versatility to play many diverse roles? HA!

I kid because I love... not really.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:55 pm

Wow...I don't even want to start trashing the voice actors. They are doing their job and the dub is a lot better than most dubs anyway, like it or not really. I mean has anyone heard the Naruto dub? Geez.

They will be consistent with the releases, they already did the whole process. And how was the Frieza Saga looking better than the others? Looks like they did the same. It's just because the show naturally progressed. Even on the originals, the artwork and picture quality was better. It has nothing to do with their wonderful little washing machine that washes out the colors.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:38 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Wow...I don't even want to start trashing the voice actors. They are doing their job and the dub is a lot better than most dubs anyway, like it or not really. I mean has anyone heard the Naruto dub? Geez.

They will be consistent with the releases, they already did the whole process. And how was the Freeza Saga looking better than the others? Looks like they did the same. It's just because the show naturally progressed. Even on the originals, the artwork and picture quality was better. It has nothing to do with their wonderful little washing machine that washes out the colors.

I kid because I love... well not love. That would be an outright lie. I don't love the voices on the dub, but I can appreciate the effort that they put forward. And I definitely don't hold anything against the voice actors themselves.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:40 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I mean has anyone heard the Naruto dub? Geez.

The Naruto dub is great.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:11 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:I mean has anyone heard the Naruto dub? Geez.
The Naruto dub is great.

I agree too.

At least Naruto's DVDs are getting a MUCH better treatment than DBZ...

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:51 pm

Maybe the show is getting better treatment, but the voices are horrible come on. I was told Naruto was going to be so great, a DBZ rival...then I watched an episode...never again.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:56 pm

Dub wise I've heard better way better. DBZ's dub is nowhere near even Fatal Fury the Motion Picture's. Which had a good dub IMO, there were great performances and good acting, even though the Japanese audio track was better. It's just they they do things in the Dragonball related dubs that they don't do in any other dub that's very annoying. They need to lay off the grunts and the vocalization of, everything. This is the only dub that I've ever heard that every conceivable thing that you can do vocally is done. That's not a good thing either because in the end it sounds really fake and extremely foolish. And then combined with the dub's music...well I'm not getting into that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nPi2bT2zc
(Japanese)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vBU3VFd5Ic
(dub)

Watch the Japanese one first, then watch the dub and you'll see what I mean. The Ryo Horikawa and Miss Nozawa sound way more realistic when they vocalize their grunts and movements. But then again I'm comparing veteran seiyuus at the time when DBZ was first airing, to actors that only had 2 or so years under their belt when DBZ's Buu saga was dubbed into English, so naturally they wouldn't sound as good.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:32 am

Vekurotto wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nPi2bT2zc
(Japanese)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vBU3VFd5Ic
(dub)

Watch the Japanese one first, then watch the dub and you'll see what I mean.

You're right, the dub is worse. Except for one part: the dub got my heart pounding. And when I'm watching two super-powered characters beating each others' brains out, I prefer the loud, over-the-top crap to "Mmmyes, quite. I say, Rutherford, the vocal talent here is marvelous. And the composition is indeed erudite *sniff, tweak mustache*"

So what if the dub is Armageddon to the original's Deep Impact. I always liked Armageddon better.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:45 am

Rocketman wrote:"Mmmyes, quite. I say, Rutherford, the vocal talent here is marvelous. And the composition is indeed erudite *sniff, tweak mustache*"

Mm...I not saying that, but I saying that it's goofy in the end. And as unrealistic DBZ is, the seiyuus try and put some realism with their voices and actions...unlike the dub.

Any word yet on how far Season 4 will go? I'm expecting this to end when they find Cell's cocoon.

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:59 am

Vekurotto wrote:Any word yet on how far Season 4 will go? I'm expecting this to end when they find Cell's cocoon.

It's the Garlic Jr. saga to the end of the Androids saga, which is exactly what you're thinking, I think.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:35 am

...They make it unrealistic? Guys it's a cartoon. They SHOULDN'T try to do realistic voices, it's a cartoon. Geez, they have animals running around. What do you mean?

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:53 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:...They make it unrealistic? Guys it's a cartoon. They SHOULDN'T try to do realistic voices, it's a cartoon. Geez, they have animals running around. What do you mean?

And this is an American made cartoon made before the dub of DBZ ever existed. And it has talking animals and it has more realistic sounding voices. What would you say about this if they tried to make everybody sound like stereotypes?

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:39 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:...They make it unrealistic? Guys it's a cartoon. They SHOULDN'T try to do realistic voices, it's a cartoon. Geez, they have animals running around. What do you mean?
And this is an American made cartoon made before the dub of DBZ ever existed. And it has talking animals and it has more realistic sounding voices. What would you say about this if they tried to make everybody sound like stereotypes?

I get what you're saying, but aren't most of the actors doing the originals more experienced? Plus most of the voice actors in the movie linked are actual actors in live action performances with years of training whereas the FUNi dub VAs are pretty much bums of the street.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:42 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:I get what you're saying, but aren't most of the actors doing the originals more experienced? Plus most of the voice actors in the movie linked are actual actors in live action performances with years of training whereas the FUNi dub VAs are pretty much bums of[f] the street.

Exactly. The acting in cartoons can be good, it just wasn't in DBZ.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:26 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Anonymous Friend wrote:I get what you're saying, but aren't most of the actors doing the originals more experienced? Plus most of the voice actors in the movie linked are actual actors in live action performances with years of training whereas the FUNi dub VAs are pretty much bums of[f] the street.
Exactly. The acting in cartoons can be good, it just wasn't in DBZ.

The dub would be many times better (Even retaining the corny dialogue) if the acting were consistently better. That's my only real beef with the dub; the voices themselves are fine and fitting and fun, but the acting and directing is horrible.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:18 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote: The dub would be many times better (Even retaining the corny dialogue) if the acting were consistently better.

The Budokai/Sparking! games come to mind.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:10 pm

I hope the Battle Points Unlimited BGM is left in during the Trunks episode dubs.

Kaze no Mune · Post by **Kaze no Mune** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:30 pm

Kind of odd, but IGN's page for the Season Four set has an image up:

Sorry if this has been posted before.

Kanzenshuu

Season Four set arrives 2/19/2008

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