Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[CTAkuma]

In the xenoverse 2 thread, there was a leak about Broli and Gogeta, and what I think was how much damage they inflict, had Broly or Broli wth higher stats than Gogeta. I guess Gogeta Blue will show up, lose or end up being not quite enough, just like omen vs Jiren, defuse and full migatte will defeat Broly or Broli. The scenario we didn't have in the ToP(Vegito blue losing and then MUI saving the day)

Were the stats shown on the image with the leaked moves?

[Mister_Popo]

If i have to choose between UI Gogeta and a SSJ Blue Gogeta, i would prefer UI Gogeta.

Do you suggest Broly is stronger than Whis or even the Grand Priest?
As far i'm concerned, Blue Gogeta would be more than enough to make Broly insanely powerful.

[FortuneSSJ]

Plot 1

Broly goes Lssj and starts to beat Goku and Vegeta.
Having no choice the two fuse.
Gogeta blue beats Broly but this makes Broly stronger.
Gogeta defuses and Broly takes out Vegeta.
Goku goes into Completed Ultra instinct and fights Broly.
Movie ends with Broly becoming a ally and Goku vowing he'll best Broly next time and Vegeta saying he'll best Goku.

Plot 2.

Broly goes lssj and starts to beat Goku and Vegeta.
Goku goes into Omen or UI but Broly is getting stronger.
Vegeta goes into Omen.
As the two are fighting in instinct and not in control ultra instinct makes them fuse into gogeta.
Omen/ UI Gogeta beats broly then defuses.
The 3 weakened saiyans go their separate ways with Broly now an ally, Goku vowing to defeat Broly and Vegeta wanting to beat Goku[/b]

It's funny how both endings are basically the same.
Hopefully Broly dies. There's already enough Saiyans.

[BlueBasilisk]

In the xenoverse 2 thread, there was a leak about Broli and Gogeta, and what I think was how much damage they inflict, had Broly or Broli wth higher stats than Gogeta. I guess Gogeta Blue will show up, lose or end up being not quite enough, just like omen vs Jiren, defuse and full migatte will defeat Broly or Broli. The scenario we didn't have in the ToP(Vegito blue losing and then MUI saving the day)

Were the stats shown on the image with the leaked moves?

I think those numbers are just for indexing the moves. "Gogeta" is #154 and all the unnamed moves are "154#" while Broly is #155 and the moves are "155#."

[Mister_Popo]

Plot 1

Broly goes Lssj and starts to beat Goku and Vegeta.
Having no choice the two fuse.
Gogeta blue beats Broly but this makes Broly stronger.
Gogeta defuses and Broly takes out Vegeta.
Goku goes into Completed Ultra instinct and fights Broly.
Movie ends with Broly becoming a ally and Goku vowing he'll best Broly next time and Vegeta saying he'll best Goku.

Plot 2.

Broly goes lssj and starts to beat Goku and Vegeta.
Goku goes into Omen or UI but Broly is getting stronger.
Vegeta goes into Omen.
As the two are fighting in instinct and not in control ultra instinct makes them fuse into gogeta.
Omen/ UI Gogeta beats broly then defuses.
The 3 weakened saiyans go their separate ways with Broly now an ally, Goku vowing to defeat Broly and Vegeta wanting to beat Goku[/b]

It's funny how both endings are basically the same.
Hopefully Broly dies. There's already enough Saiyans.

Maybe Gogeta will use the Punishers Drive on Broly to purify him, enbabling him to become a part of the Goku-gang. Where have we seen that before?

[Jackalope89]

I don't think Broly turns "good", but I see him being a more neutral force out in the universe. And someone that would be well to step lightly around.

[Chuquita]

I think Brolli will stay. Toyotaro kept him as part of the main cast in his fan manga, right?

This'll be the first time Gokû and Vegeta fuse against an opponent who isn't fused themselves (or utilizes the power of others), isn't it?

Feels like a way to try to make Brolli seem even bigger.


Man I hope there's some fun plot stuff in this movie somewhere. I don't want another RoF.

[BlueBasilisk]

I think Brolli will stay. Toyotaro kept him as part of the main cast in his fan manga, right?

This'll be the first time Gokû and Vegeta fuse against an opponent who isn't fused themselves (or utilizes the power of others), isn't it?

Feels like a way to try to make Brolli seem even bigger.


Man I hope there's some fun plot stuff in this movie somewhere. I don't want another RoF.

The manga ended shortly after he reappeared but it looked like that was the path he was on.

[FortuneSSJ]

Man I hope there's some fun plot stuff in this movie somewhere. I don't want another RoF.

If anything, Freeza's soldiers seem to be much more interesting this time:

What about the new characters besides Broli?

The designs for both Chelye and Lemo are truly great. Chelye is a young, delinquent girl. She acts on superficial feelings alone, and ends up helping Broli without thinking of the consequences, with disastrous results. And Lemo is a profound character as well. He’s been in Freeza’s army for decades, so I think he’s seen many pitiable children over the years. There’s a gap in the way Chelye and Lemo feel about Broli. Lemo is a good man, so he wants to do something about Broli, but he’s well aware of the limits of his own power. He was mediocre soldier not even fit to fight on the front lines of Freeza’s army, but he’s influenced by meeting Broli and seeing Chelye act on will alone, and he starts to change. I feel like the balance between these three is incredibly well done. I can’t say anymore since it has to do with the plot of the movie, but the story of these three is noteworthy.

There's also Beriblu who doesn't seem afraid to say what she thinks to Freeza, which may gives us some funny interactions. Freeza never had a soldier like that.

[TheRed259]

Trailer for Thailand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7JKQ1Jri_k

[Kenneth La Torre]

In the xenoverse 2 thread, there was a leak about Broli and Gogeta, and what I think was how much damage they inflict, had Broly or Broli wth higher stats than Gogeta. I guess Gogeta Blue will show up, lose or end up being not quite enough, just like omen vs Jiren, defuse and full migatte will defeat Broly or Broli. The scenario we didn't have in the ToP(Vegito blue losing and then MUI saving the day)

Those are just index numbers. The full december schedule is out for merchandice and no ui is there. So ui most likely inst going to be there, so i guess is just gogeta.

[precita]

So Trunks and Goten were likely in this movie to show Goku/Vegeta how to fusion dance.

[Kenneth La Torre]

So Trunks and Goten were likely in this movie to show Goku/Vegeta how to fusion dance.

Goku was the one who showed them the fusion dance, so no reason for them to show vegeta fusion dance when goku can show him himself.

[Miracles]

Goku and Vegeta didn't even want to combine against a fused Zamas and they are going to fusion dance against a single in Broly?

Setting yourselves up....

[Zen Yabuki]

In the xenoverse 2 thread, there was a leak about Broli and Gogeta, and what I think was how much damage they inflict, had Broly or Broli wth higher stats than Gogeta. I guess Gogeta Blue will show up, lose or end up being not quite enough, just like omen vs Jiren, defuse and full migatte will defeat Broly or Broli. The scenario we didn't have in the ToP(Vegito blue losing and then MUI saving the day)

Also a possibility but if you’re gonna have fusion then have it win. But having this fusion means a sudden power up that would likely have to win in a short time. I don’t really like either of these options

[Zelvin]

I imagine they fuse and end up pushing Broly. But the made the same mistake they did against Super Buu. The same mistake they made against Zamasu. They ddin't go all out straight from the get-go. They let their fused status make them arrogant. Instead of cornering Broly, the battle only further awakens his power and he quickly adapts and becomes even stronger as a result. Gogeta doesn't lose die to time running out this time. He loses due to Broly becoming so overwhelmingly strong that he's literally blasted out of the fusion.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

I'd still very much prefer UI Goku vs Broly. Two Saiyans who both have the ability to grow as they fight (for the former, that's exclusive to his latest transformation, and the latter has that as an innate ability). Not mention both would coincidentally be shirtless, muscles going at it and whatnot.

IF any fusion of Goku and Vegeta is confirmed to appear before I see the movie (it's hard to ignore all of the huge coincidences/evidence/whatever you wanna call it), I won't love or hate it for the time being (at least, I can't decide whether I like it or not until after I see the film obviously), but no one can convince me that move makes any sense or has any reason whatsoever other than fanservice.

[Kenneth La Torre]

No ui if we go by the full december merchandise, so i guess gogeta is going to be what stops broly

I'm not surprised honestly. I knew speculated that the form wouldnt appear right after he states he cant do it anymore.

[Chuquita]

Goku and Vegeta didn't even want to combine against a fused Zamas and they are going to fusion dance against a single in Broly?

Setting yourselves up....

I want to believe you because I don't want Gogeta vs Brolli to be true, but what little we know about this film's story is fanservice everything. I wouldn't be surprised if they ignore characterization for the sake of marketing Gogeta figures.

Somebody out there high up enough wants to see Brolli fight Gogeta in Shintani's art style and/or knows lots of casual fans would want it so it's being made so.

I personally don't care about the Budokai 3 opening that was half a lifetime ago and would rather see Goku and Vegeta team work instead of fuse, but such is life.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

My theory is that Gogeta will be pummeling Broly for a bit, but it turns out to do more harm than good because Broly ends up getting even stronger. We then see Gogeta getting the shit kicked outta him until he eventually defuses. Broly’s now too strong to fight against and the only way to defeat him is to make him exert all his power to return him back to normal.

To do this, Goku will tap into UI (Omen or Perfected, doesn’t really matter) and baits Broly into fighting him. Goku will dodge all of Broly’s attacks but won’t fight back because he doesn’t want him to get any stronger. Goku will win by tiring Broly out and will do so without landing a single blow.