How Strong Do You Think Super Saiyan 4 Son Gohan Is?

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:40 pm

Right from his official debut in the God Mission 5 Animated Promo or in the Arcade Game itself of Dragon Ball Heroes?

Thank you for all of your replies and from what I could gather so far from Dragon Ball Heroes and Kanzenshuu, Super Saiyan 4 Son Gohan is more powerful than Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta from the Shadow Dragon Saga. Perhaps Super Saiyan 4 Son Gohan is strong enough to defeat Golden Frieza from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F.

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:45 pm

Given the statement that he has trouble controlling his power, almost certainly stronger than Goku and Vegeta.

I don't think it matters much beyond that, because the only other relevant GT characters to compare him to are SS4 Gogeta and Super Yi Xing Long, and he's not going to be reaching that level.

SSJ2FutureGohan · Post by **SSJ2FutureGohan** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:48 pm

Since SS4 brings a user to their limits and isn't a strict multiplier, I'm sure he's much stronger than SS4 Vegeta or SS4 surpassed limits Goku. Super Yi Xing Long is the lowest level I'd place him at.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:13 pm

If you wanna take into the account from I think the GT Perfect Files where it says GT Gohan kept up with his training then by my numbers hed be about 10X stronger than SSJ4 Goku, retaining the gap between his Mystic form in the Buu Saga and SSJ3 Goku from the Buu Saga. Though that sounds like a longshot even to myself. I guess it depends on whether you interpret that keeping up with his training made him stronger or simply prevented him from getting weaker.

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:58 pm

I agree, it really is hard to tell if GT Gohan is as strong as his Potential Unleashed self in Dragon Ball Z. Regardless, Super Saiyan 4 would make Son Gohan be strong enough to handle anyone, provided that he remains fully focused and able to draw even further strength from his anger.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:12 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:I agree, it really is hard to tell if GT Gohan is as strong as his Potential Unleashed self in Dragon Ball Z. Regardless, Super Saiyan 4 would make Son Gohan be strong enough to handle anyone, provided that he remains fully focused and able to draw even further strength from his anger.

I doubt it. Yi Xing Long was beating down SSJ4 Goku easily and became 10X stronger by absorbing the Dragon Balls. Even after Goku went beyond his limits by absorbing the energy from his family and friends he still barely capable of doing anything to the dragon.

SSJ4 Gohan could possibly defeat Yi Xing Long but Super Yi Xing (Omega) and SSJ4 Gogeta are still going to be a good deal stronger than him.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:46 pm

Weaker than Goku and Vegeta.

Post by **Herms** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:27 am

Well, where does the game itself place him in relation to other characters? Those DBH cards all have fairly specific stats...stats which really only apply to DBH, but still, it's something to go off of.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:00 am

Around 10x his mystic self.
Maybe he could fight super baby vegeta 2 , but will lose badly

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:53 am

Herms wrote:Well, where does the game itself place him in relation to other characters? Those DBH cards all have fairly specific stats...stats which really only apply to DBH, but still, it's something to go off of.

The stats are pretty meaningless. SS4 Goku can be weaker than Zarbon or stronger than SS4 Gogeta.
The team unit with SS4 Goku and Vegeta has them needing to team up and prevent Gohan's blast from hitting the Earth because he can't control his power though.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:31 pm

Way stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, if we take into account his hidden potential and the fact he never stopped training in GT.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:32 am

Lord Beerus wrote:Way stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, if we take into account his hidden potential and the fact he never stopped training in GT.

He as a super saiyan was weaker than BASE KID GOKU

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:43 am

apex_pretador wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Way stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, if we take into account his hidden potential and the fact he never stopped training in GT.
He as a super saiyan was weaker than BASE KID GOKU

But him as Ultimate Gohan is still much more insanely than Goku prior to SS4 becoming a thing. Toei were just hell bent on making sure that you forget that Ultimate Gohan was a thing.

SSJ2FutureGohan · Post by **SSJ2FutureGohan** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:02 am

apex_pretador wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Way stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, if we take into account his hidden potential and the fact he never stopped training in GT.
He as a super saiyan was weaker than BASE KID GOKU

That doesn't mean his SS4 would be weaker than Goku's SS4 or Vegeta's SS4.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:43 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Way stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, if we take into account his hidden potential and the fact he never stopped training in GT.
He as a super saiyan was weaker than BASE KID GOKU
That doesn't mean his SS4 would be weaker than Goku's SS4 or Vegeta's SS4.

Why not?
his ultimate self was stronger than his max potential.
At the very absolute best, his SS4 will be 10x his ultimate self.
SS4 goku is way beyond that, & vegeta is equal to goku , as they didn't have to match ki.

SSJ2FutureGohan · Post by **SSJ2FutureGohan** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:46 am

apex_pretador wrote:Why not?
his ultimate self was stronger than his max potential.
At the very absolute best, his SS4 will be 10x his ultimate self.
SS4 goku is way beyond that, & vegeta is equal to goku , as they didn't have to match ki.

Super Saiyan 4 isn't a strict multiplier, it's potential based. And Gohan has more potential than Goku and Vegeta, even in GT.

Muffin Man · Post by **Muffin Man** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:38 pm

SSj4 Goku < SSj4 Gohan < Base Kid Goku

dbzfan7 · Post by **dbzfan7** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:29 pm

For once I can't say Super Logic included since this is GT Gohan. So no he's automatically shit tier. This Gohan I can't really see being as strong as Goku and Vegeta since Goku was hax already and Vegeta had the machine to have him max Goku beyond limits. So going by strictly GT I think below those two. However going by the Heroes stuff DevilCorpse mentioned I'd say stronger than those 2, but weaker than Omega and SSJ4 Gogeta. Though as said above Base Kid Goku is the best.

Steven Bloodriver · Post by **Steven Bloodriver** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:41 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:58 pm I agree, it really is hard to tell if Son Gohan from Dragon Ball GT is as strong as his Potential Unleashed self in Dragon Ball Z. Regardless, Super Saiyan 4 would make Son Gohan be strong enough to handle anyone, provided that he remains fully focused and able to draw even further strength from his anger.

It is safe to say that Son Gohan from Dragon Ball GT is indeed as strong or even stronger than what he ever was in the Majin Buu Saga. But he really didn't push himself to reach his full potential until becoming Son Gohan: Xeno.

Hugo Boss · Post by **Hugo Boss** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:31 pm

I know this is necro-posting, but this thread could be merged with the official unnoficial powerlevel thread.

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