The Japanese Seiyuu in other minor/major roles

Post by **desirecampbell** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:35 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Well it's not like everybody's been using the internet since it's started and has the instinct to go to wikipedia or google every time they're curious about something. And it was unneccessary for Desire to act like a complete prick to me. He could've just done what Herms did and define it for me and nothing else. Just because doesn't isn't experienced at the internet as you are doesn't mean you can act like a prick to somebody and expect them to already know what to do in a situation where they have a question.

I usually let stuff like that go, but come on man. Tell me you don't now how to use Google. Tell me. Say it out loud. You didn't bother doing two minutes of research on what 'seiyuu' meant. I didn't expect you to instantly grasp the reasons behind using that term instead of simply 'voice actor', if you'd had asked something like "why do you use the term 'seiyuu' instead of 'voice actor'? Aren't they the same?" I would have answered with exactly what Herms said - but you didn't, you asked "That means voice actor, right?". It was a pointless post, adding nothing to the conversation.

I mean, fuck man. Google. Fucking Google. I'm not sorry you're embarrassed, you're old enough to do the legwork yourself. Just like we expect you to be able to spell, we expect you to be able to be able to perform the most basic of Internet functions. If you're have a specific question that requires some abstract thinking or some archaic knowledge, ask away. But expect ridicule for any answer that can be gleamed from Google in two seconds.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:54 pm

All I did was use my gut instinct - I saw something I didn't know, and the first thing that came to mind was "ask a question." Geez, lighten up.

sailorspazz · Post by **sailorspazz** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:35 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
Ryo Horikawa also voices....the male fashion designer that gets a man crush on Fisheye in an episode of Sailor Moon SuperS.

Holy crap, I never realized that! Of course, at the time I was most heavily watching Sailormoon, I don't think I had yet heard Dragonball in Japanese, but I must have seen that fashion designer episode a dozen times back in the day....time to pull out my DVDs for some LOLz

Speaking of Horikawa Ryo, I once discovered him playing a role in a surprising manner. I'm a long time anime fan, and there are many seiyuu I can recognize by voice. In this particular case, though, I recognized him by something else: his fighting noises. A few years ago, I was watching the BL anime Kizuna (what can I say, I have diverse tastes, and Vegeta doesn't seem to mind guarding some of my BL manga such as Fake and Gravitation, as seen here ^_-). There was a scene where some of the characters got into a fist fight, and I heard a familiar "da da da da da!" from one of them, and I was like, holy crap, that's Vegeta! The character's regular voice was so heavily laden with a Kansai accent that I couldn't recognize it as Horikawa, but the battle noises were unmistakable ^_^

I have something else that tops that on the bizarreness scale, though. Many years ago, I got the game Bust-a-Move 4 (known in Japan as Puzzle Bobble 4, which makes much more sense since it's like the Bubble Bobble games), and after playing the game a lot, there was one character's whose voice was bugging me, which was Madame Luna. It was a female character, but obviously played by a man who was trying to do an over the top effeminate voice. Something finally triggered where I had heard it before (perhaps an "oh ho ho" laugh?) and I realized it was Nakao Ryuusei (Freeza)! I watched through the credits, and sure enough it was really him. The performance is so laughably over the top, it's just hilarious!

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:40 pm

Yeah, Akira Kamiya & Ryo Horikawa are definitely my favorite seiyuus. Horikawa more for his role as Lohengramm in LOGH (Legend of the Galactic Heroes, a very old OVA btw), than Vegeta. I haven't seen City Hunter, but it's definitely piqued my interest.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:56 pm

desirecampbell wrote:If you're have a specific question that requires some abstract thinking or some archaic knowledge, ask away. But expect ridicule for any answer that can be gleamed from Google in two seconds.

This. I have a problem with this. Since when did you speak for everyone on the forums? Guess you haven't ever heard the phrase, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers."

Post by **desirecampbell** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:38 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:If you're have a specific question that requires some abstract thinking or some archaic knowledge, ask away. But expect ridicule for any answer that can be gleamed from Google in two seconds.
This. I have a problem with this. Since when did you speak for everyone on the forums? Guess you haven't ever heard the phrase, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers."

I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, I'm sorry if it came off that way.

But, also, there are stupid questions. Questions are stupid based on context. Let's take jjgp's question as an example, used in different situations:

"I assume seiyuu means voice actor?" [in person, informal/off-the-cuff conversation]
Completely reasonable question. There's no reason I would expect him to know this word, and a quick clarification is no harm at all.

"I assume seiyuu means voice actor?" [in person, debate is stated to be about such a topic]
Here I would expect him to know what the word is, when he enters into a discussion who's title includes the word. I wouldn't go off on a diatribe about it, but answering the question would be accompanied by a mocking look.

"I assume seiyuu means voice actor?" [though immediate correspondence]
If this was an IRC chat, or I'm conversation, I would be more forgiving because it is expected that one would converse rapidly, leaving little time for research. Still, with more time for it than a personal interview I would expect some level of research.

"I assume seiyuu means voice actor?" [through non-immediate correspondence]
If there's no expectation that one would have to respond immediately, there's no reason one wouldn't first try to research the topic themselves.

"I assume seiyuu means voice actor?" [through non-immediate correspondence, debate/discussion about the topic itself, individual has no expectation to say anything at all]
Here's what we're actually dealing with. On an Internet forum, noone is expected to respond immediately, in fact, we expect a decent amount of thought to be put into each post, each comment should try to push the discussion forward somehow, this forum in particular has rules about not posting pointlessly, and to take care for grammar and spelling, to search for older threads that may answer the question already. Further, jjgp had not posted in this thread before, there was no expectation for him to respond to anything, he should have been able to post something meaningful for his foray into the topic.

That's not to say the question itself couldn't have been mitigated. If he'd continued his post with another question, or with some insight into the topic, or anything expect such a simplistic and, in this case, stupid question - I would have gladly responded quickly and cheerfully to it.

If he had written...

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm guessing that Seiyuu means voice actor.

I've noticed that these VAs have been in these other shows, and blah blah

or

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm guessing that Seiyuu means voice actor.

Is there a reason you use that term instead of just 'voice actor'? It seems elitest, and blah blah

But he didn't. His post was inane and lazy and pointless. I stand by my actions.

Vhanos · Post by **Vhanos** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:05 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Norio Wakamoto plays the fucking Emperor of Britannia in Code Geass, and he is awesome.

A couple others who did work in Dragon Ball also does voice work in Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion. Takeshi Kusao (Trunks) does this character who is a geass user named Mao. Hikaru Midorikawa (Android 16, Pikkon, one of Garlic Jr's men) does a new character for the fairly new season of Code Geass R2.

Others of note that stick out to me.

Miki Itou who does Android 18 does the voice for Miyo Takano in Higurashi no Naku Koro ni + Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai. I know her most for that character.

I forgot his name. The guy who does Captain Ginyu does Ryu Hayabusa of Ninja Gaiden

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Undercooked Sausage · Post by **Undercooked Sausage** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:55 am

Christ, Desire, overreact much? Both of you need to calm down, and let's keep this on topic. I understand it's the internet and you guys have the predisposition to argue over nothing, but lets also share and feel the love, okay?

I always find it so amazing that Goku's Seiyuu can produce such a youthful voice for him going into her seventies. Wouldn't mind seeing some recent, non-Goku work of hers.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:22 am

And going back to Sailor Moon again, Koyami Mami (Lunch) played the role of the hands-down most annoying and hatable character in the entire series, Esmeraud.

Milton · Post by **Milton** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:41 am

In the arcade/Dreamcast game Tech Romancer, Ryusei Nakao plays the character Arekshim. Also, Toshio Furukawa plays the original Kinnikuman and father of Mantarou from Kinnikuman II.

Post by **TripleRach** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:59 am

Adamant wrote:And going back to Sailor Moon again, Koyami Mami (Lunch) played the role of the hands-down most annoying and hatable character in the entire series, Esmeraud.

I absolutely adore Esmeraude in the most heterosexual way possible, and her voice is a big factor in that.

But to keep it back on topic, has it been mentioned yet that Koyama was the voice of Arale in the original Slump series? And that Kaneto "Namu" Shiozawa was the voice of Prince Demand in that same Sailor Moon arc? If not, I guess I'm mentioning it now.

Also, Gorou "King Gourmes" Naya is otherwise quite known for being the villain leader in the original Kamen Rider, as well as the voice of Zenigata in almost every Lupin III production ever.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:46 am

Undercooked Sausage wrote:I always find it so amazing that Goku's Seiyuu can produce such a youthful voice for him going into her seventies. Wouldn't mind seeing some recent, non-Goku work of hers.

Not too surprising at times. June Foray in her eighties was still able to do the Rocky voice.

And going back to Sailor Moon again, Koyami Mami (Lunch) played the role of the hands-down most annoying and hatable character in the entire series, Esmeraud.

Never heard that. Most people I know say the most annoying and hatable character was Chibi-Usa.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:24 pm

TripleRach wrote:And that Kaneto "Namu" Shiozawa was the voice of Prince Demand in that same Sailor Moon arc? If not, I guess I'm mentioning it now.

Yeah I mentioned that earlier

Concerning Miss Nozawa, the most recent, non-Son family, role I've heard her in was with Guilmon in Digimon Tamers, and Dr. Kureha in One Piece. A lot of her roles that she's known for are mostly pre-Goku/DB ones in anime that most Westerners don't even know of excluding Astro Boy, Golion, and Gatchaman.

Super Sonic wrote: Most people I know say the most annoying and hatable character was Chibi-Usa.

I actually never minded her at all

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