False Super Saiyan Appreciation Thread

[SuperSunnyDee]

I think False Super Saiyan is just okay. I’ve always enjoyed it more as an oddity and the trivia information behind it rather than as an actual form. It looks cool I guess though I’m not a fan of the chicken soup broth shade of yellow for the aura.

It’s a cool form but I’m surprised if it’s not as represented as the post claims it is. But I guess it isn’t surprising considering it is the hasty cash in on the Super Saiyan name.

[SSJgogeto]

I like the form, but I think it's more or less like SS Rage: came out of nowhere without a proper explanation, and looks like a variation of another technique/transformation.

[MasenkoHA]

I like the form, but I think it's more or less like SS Rage: came out of nowhere without a proper explanation

Not really. In the context of the movie it’s suppose to be Super Saiyan. That thing they’ve been building up to since the beginning of Z. Hence the title of movie.

The whole False Super Saiyan moniker only exist to distinguish it from the actual canon Super Saiyan

[SSJgogeto]

But that's the point, right? It's suppose to be Super Saiyan, but clearly isn't because we saw how Super Saiyan actually is in the movie who follows this one (unless we consider that this movie has no connection with the others). So, if this form isn't Super Saiyan, then what the heck it is?

[MasenkoHA]

But that's the point, right? It's suppose to be Super Saiyan, but clearly isn't because we saw how Super Saiyan actually is in the movie who follows this one (unless we consider that this movie has no connection with the others). So, if this form isn't Super Saiyan, then what the heck it is?

For the purpose of this movie it’s Super Saiyan. The movies aren’t all connected to each other.

[Grimlock]

And generally speaking, it's one step before it. Halfway there to achieve Super Saiyan, but not quite there yet. Like I said, it also makes to sense to theorize that this form has a multiplier of 25 (that is half of Super Saiyan's multiplier, which is 50).

I don't remember exactly what the guidebook states about this form other than giving it a proper name, but I think this assumption/approach regarding this transformation makes a lot of sense.

[MasenkoHA]

It’s not even that. It’s just that movie’s version of Super Saiyan.

[SSJgogeto]

For the purpose of this movie it’s Super Saiyan. The movies aren’t all connected to each other.

Can't say anything about the second sentence, I heard something about that but if it's true I don't know if this movie is connected or not with any other.

About the first sentence, i found this in the movie guide:

A state that Goku transformed into in the movie “Super Saiyan Son Goku”. It’s similar to Super Saiyan in that the entire body is wrapped in an aura, but the hair is not completely golden. Also, his eyes become white, as if he had lost consciousness. It looks as if Goku’s anger at being cornered by his enemy Slug overran and made him like a Super Saiyan.

[Grimlock]

It’s not even that. It’s just that movie’s version of Super Saiyan.

It has to be something now that "Super Saiyan" refers to a golden-haired thing. And I don't enjoy the notion of it being yet another version of Super Saiyan. So it being what I proposed above is a perfect concept.

[precita]

It's the same thing that happens in the Freeza arc, it's basically "almost" Super Saiyan but not quite as it's not enough to trigger the transformation. Kinda makes sense, same reason the Saiyan form they used in the Cell arc was like Super Saiyan 1.5 but not quite Super Saiyan 2 yet.

[Yuli Ban]

"What is it?"

It's Super Saiyan Omen, of course.
Super Saiyan -Sign-
スーパーサイヤ人"兆”

And its multiplier is fuck you, it's just dummy strong.

As for my opinion on it itself, considering I'm the one guilty of reviving this thread:

it certainly looks cool, but the main reason I like it is because I adore "mimics," "pseudos," and "alternative" versions of things. I'm fascinating by things that fall outside the norm. I like convergent evolution, I like biological mimicry, I like Mediterranean pseudo-hurricanes, I like landspouts, and I like False Super Saiyan.

But this form is ugly and not all that appealing. I can't imagine Super Saiyan would've become world renowned if it looked like this.


There's just something so appealing, so smooth about the golden form.


It makes for a good desperation move. Again, if this was sort of like a "feral" Ikari-esque form a Saiyan could use that grants them more power than their full potential at the cost of their ability to discern friend or foe (or anything really), that'd be an interesting revival use of the form. Like a literal humanoid Oozaru, but instead of Super Saiyan 4 being a mastered/tamed form of it,, this is the uncontrolled loss of reason of Oozaru + all of its power. Again, Ikari seems like something of a revival of that aspect and if Son Goku's aura in that form were golden and lingered on others, then we have a proper canonization of False Super Saiyan.

[MasenkoHA]

Can't say anything about the second sentence, I heard something about that but if it's true I don't know if this movie is connected or not with any other.

It’s basic reasoning. Z movie 4 clearly takes place after the Namek conflict but Goku has never gone Super Saiyan before. Z movie 5 after takes place after Namek but has Goku having become a Super Saiyan against Freeza.

Toei has never been terribly concerned with continuity when it comes to their own expanded material.

About the first sentence, i found this in the movie guide:

A state that Goku transformed into in the movie “Super Saiyan Son Goku”. It’s similar to Super Saiyan in that the entire body is wrapped in an aura, but the hair is not completely golden. Also, his eyes become white, as if he had lost consciousness. It looks as if Goku’s anger at being cornered by his enemy Slug overran and made him like a Super Saiyan.

Daizenshuu that came years after the movie was released. Again, for the intent of when that movie was released it was suppose to be Super Saiyan with Toei being fully aware Toriyama’s own canon version was going to override it.

[SSJgogeto]

Well, honestly I can't buy it. Is not that your reasoning is impossible, but I think we need a stronger evidence, like an interview or something.

For now, I think we are only in the realm of possibilities, and there's just one of them. I mean, what if this form isn't really "Super Saiyan", but just something made to hype the actual transformation that would happen in the manga some days after the movie premiered?

[MasenkoHA]

Well, honestly I can't buy it. Is not that your reasoning is impossible, but I think we need a stronger evidence, like an interview or something.

The Japanese title for the movie is…..

[SSJgogeto]

And that's why I said "Is not that your reasoning is impossible, but I think we need a stronger evidence, like an interview or something."