Dragon Ball Daima trailer, October release date announced

[WittyUsername]

I can’t say I really saw anything egregiously bad about Nadolny’s acting, at least not in the later years. I’d even argue she gave one of the better performances in the GT dub. All I know is that I’m not a fan of what I’ve heard from Clinkenbeard’s Goku. On a lesser note, I also think it seems kinda lazy to have the voice of Luffy voice Goku as well, but I digress.

[gokaiblue]

There's definitely a part of me that kinda believes the Nadonly news to be true, but on the other hand, Kid Gokū is being featured prominently in a video game through GT, and that still has him being voiced by Clinkenbeard. I would think they would want more brand synergy between the two tbh.

[Scsigs]

I mean until an official announcement, it's all speculation. My money would be on Clinkenbeard voicing Goku, as she's been Goku's kid voice since 2010 but, as I already said, the characters in Daima are more chibified than actually de-aged which COULD be (which again I can't stress enough is pure speculation) Crunchyroll's rationale in just using Schemmel as Chibi Goku in Daima.

And it's not like Crunchymation hasn't had adult men voice kid characters: https://youtu.be/-HtCmGhd6EQ?si=eGXlU39y9lwccSTn

Hasn't it been said that the characters are de-aged, not chibified? I mean, others got de-aged to babies.
And for that clip, I forgot they did that in Super: Broly. I'll bring up that it's a small flashback at the beginning of the movie, so they probably just figured it didn't matter to use other VAs, but you got me there. That's not how they usually have kids voiced in DB, though.

I can't even begin to follow the logic in that. "It can't be Schemmel because there's a completely unverified rumor that it's Nadolny." Like...okay?

The logic is, "If there's rumors that they're considering Nadolny, then they're looking to use a female VA for Goku." Even if the rumor that they wanna bring Nadolny back is a load of bunk, I'd still expect them to use a different female VA, like Clinkenbeard.

The key difference between Drummond and Nadolny is Drummond can act and Nadolny really cannot act. She does okay with Goku the simpleton and Goku the warrior but when she's called to task to show any sort of emotion like anger or grief her shortcomings as an actor become super apparent. One of the many big failings of the Funi dub of the Daimao arc is just how terrible her performance was since that arc required actual emotions from Goku.

I haven't seen the dub of that arc in a while, though I plan to rewatch the OG DB anime in the near future because I'm overdue for it. However, I think she did a good job in the GT dub when needed & the redubbed scenes in the Z dub were a huge improvement for her. At least with the lines & direction given to her. Let's remember that early FUNimation dubs were plagued with bad script changes, additions, & directions that are now looked back on as extremely cringe, leading to bad performances, not helped by the fact that a lot of the VAs who're now staples at the company were new to the game.
Now, I'm not saying she's 100% perfect at acting. As I said, I think her performances could stand to be a LOT better. I think if she could learn to be more natural with her performance & reel it in, she's be a great dub voice for kid Goku. Not so much Gohan, but maybe, but at least Goku.

Clinkenbeard has not done enough to give a great assessment of her take on Goku, but I liked what little we got. I have a strong opinion on this because I would like to enjoy the dub and Nadolny is an impediment to that.

True. Not counting video games (which I hardly keep up with) she really only had Curse of the Blood Rubies to strut herself as Goku and she did fine. Most of the criticisms are pretty silly and amount to #NotMyKidGoku. I don't care that she uses the same voice for Goku that she uses for Goku Knockoff in One Piece any more than I care that Tara Strong only has like 4 different voices for her 5000 characters.

From how I've seen it, her Goku has evolved over the years. She's made it similar to her Luffy. The main difference is that Luffy is more stuffy & played to be just staright-up dumb (which, tbh, isn't how the voice is meant to come off, given how Mayumi Tanaka usually plays him, but whatever). It's not a carbon copy of her Gohan, just not as soft-spoken. I just get distracted by her voices because I got WAY into the English dub of One Piece, like I said, & I don't know why, but my brain can't get passed that.
Tara Strong's boy voices are at least able to be different through how deep she makes them. Timmy Turner is different from Ben 10 (even in the episode of Ben 10 where Ben gets de-aged to 5 & she had to pitch up the voice to near-Timmy Turner levels, but there's still a distinction to it) & they both sound different from Mac's older brother Terrence from Foster's. Though, hers are also voices I don't mind hearing in anything other than 1 thing. Also gonna say thing, Tara Strong's a more versatile actress than Clinkenbeard, especially the boy voices. Probably due to more experience & finding ways to change it up over the years, but she is.

There's definitely a part of me that kinda believes the Nadonly news to be true, but on the other hand, Kid Gokū is being featured prominently in a video game through GT, and that still has him being voiced by Clinkenbeard. I would think they would want more brand synergy between the two tbh.

I mean, these are 2 different products made on 2 different production timelines. Anime can be dubbed pretty up to the wire when it needs to be broadcast. Like, Yoruichi from Bleach had been recast in the Thousand-Year Blood War anime's dub initially, but then Viz switched back to Wendee Lee after a single episode with the other actress aired & replaced her voice line with Lee's on future releases (TBH, I don't know why they recast the character who already had a definitive voice in the first place, but ok), but if we compare that to a video game, Square Enix replaced Olaf's Japanese voice lines in Kingdom Hearts 3 after his OG VA got into controversy & that was in an update to the Japanese version after the game released. Video games need more time so the devs can properly program the voice lines to come in when needed. I imagine they recorded a lot of people some time last year or way earlier this year for the English dub while Daima's dub started being recorded more recently in the last few months or so.

[sangofe]

Daima has been confirmed by Crunchyroll to be streaming the 11th of October but not in Europe. Anyone knows what's up with Europe, and especially France and Norway?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Daima has been confirmed by Crunchyroll to be streaming the 11th of October but not in Europe. Anyone knows what's up with Europe, and especially France and Norway?

Who knows. Probably another case of TOEI Europe being difficult to work with.

Back in 2016 when Crunchyroll were simulcasting Super in North America we were getting it through Daisuki. The latter simulcast covered Norway, can't remember about France though. Sadly Daisuki are gone now, so we can't count on them.

You would think by Crunchyroll becoming more international the UK and US branches would be able to co-operate, just another reason monopolies suck.

[JulieYBM]

There's an entire month until the series premiers. That is plenty of time for a European simulcast to be announced.

[MasenkoHA]

I can’t say I really saw anything egregiously bad about Nadolny’s acting, at least not in the later years. I’d even argue she gave one of the better performances in the GT dub.

I mean she's not bad with literally every line coming from her mouth. Like I said, she's generally decent enough with oblivious Goku and warrior Goku but when the scene calls for emoting? https://youtube.com/shorts/wJLE2d4xGNw? ... Xzz0Fmx_tB she's pretty fucking atrocious.

There's also the fact of the matter that from the more recent videos I've seen she's seen to have forgotten how to even do the Goku voice.

On a lesser note, I also think it seems kinda lazy to have the voice of Luffy voice Goku as well, but I digress.

Not really, she was definitely cast as young Goku because she was primarily cast as Gohan for Kai and there's already been precedent with Goku and Gohan sharing a voice actress as kids with Saffron Henderson and Stephanie Nadolny. The fact that she also did Luffy was more coincidental than by design.

[Vegard Aune]

You would think by Crunchyroll becoming more international the UK and US branches would be able to co-operate, just another reason monopolies suck.

This is a total non-sequittor in the context of whether or not Norway would be getting Daima since... aside from some ancient DVDs of the Big Green dubs of some of the Z movies, Dragon Ball has never gotten any sort of Norwegian dub, and Super was the first time anything of the anime was made readily available over here, albeit only with English translations. We later also got Super Hero with some pretty ghastly Norwegian subtitles that were blatantly retranslated (poorly) from the English, but... yeah, CR and FUNi merging has had zero negative effect on distribution over here. It has always been atrocious. We didn't have One Piece on Norwegian CR either until, like, 2019 or 2020 sometime. And even when it did get made available it took a while longer for us to get all the episodes. There was a good while where there was a sizeable chunk of eps in the middle that were just not available, which is kind of a problem in a story that's so interconnected and prone to introducing a character or a plot point in one arc and then have them come back and be super important several years later.

...But I expect Daima will in fact be available over here by the time it airs. They may indeed not have secured a deal just yet, but there's still plenty of time.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

...But I expect Daima will in fact be available over here by the time it airs. They may indeed not have secured a deal just yet, but there's still plenty of time.

It may be a long shot, but.... is there any chance of a Norwegian linear channel picking up Daima? One possibility I considered was that maybe TOEI got some deals going to roll out Daima and possibly catalogue Dragon Ball content in Europe because we know they all love TV deals.

POP in the UK could air Daima as they aired Super for years. There's also channels in Spain, Poland, France, Germany and Cyprus that still air Dragon Ball, so there may be a possibility TOEI is holding out on making some money from those deals before announcing a European simulcast.

Also, Super is supposed to be on its way to Denmark dubbed. I know DR has a history of airing Dragon Ball Z, but I don't know anything about the TV landscape in Norway so maybe things have changed since the early 2000s when you guys/gals should have got a Dragon Ball broadcast.

[sangofe]

There's an entire month until the series premiers. That is plenty of time for a European simulcast to be announced.

Why wasn't it straight away, though?

[JulieYBM]

There's an entire month until the series premiers. That is plenty of time for a European simulcast to be announced.

Why wasn't it straight away, though?

Because a deal has yet to be made.

[sangofe]

There's an entire month until the series premiers. That is plenty of time for a European simulcast to be announced.

Why wasn't it straight away, though?

Because a deal has yet to be made.

Yeah, and Super never was simulcasted in France, for example. Why should a deal be made this time? Why has no coutries in Europe had a deal?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Why wasn't it straight away, though?

Because a deal has yet to be made.

Yeah, and Super never was simulcasted in France, for example. Why should a deal be made this time? Why has no coutries in Europe had a deal?

TOEI Europe has always operated separate from TOEI USA. As I've suggested maybe they are prioritising a TV deal and that's still being worked out.

Various Dragon Ball shows are airing on a number of traditional channels in Europe now. Original Dragon Ball is airing on RTLZWEI (Germany), Dragon Ball Z is on Comedy Central (Spain), Kai and Super air on Polsat Games (Poland), so it's not out of the question those are the avenues TOEI are exploring for Daima.

I agree in this day and age TOEI should be simulcasting Daima in as many territories as possible because we live in a world that is more connected than ever through social media and craves instant gratification but TOEI are slow at adapting.

It's good Daima isn't getting simulcasted a year later, like Super did so I guess TOEI USA are slowly moving with the times, but it may not be the case for the European branch yet.

That said a European simulcast could be announced tomorrow, we've just got to wait and see. Hopefully there's a pleasant surprise around the corner.

[90sDBZ]

Daima has been confirmed by Crunchyroll to be streaming the 11th of October but not in Europe. Anyone knows what's up with Europe, and especially France and Norway?

Who knows. Probably another case of TOEI Europe being difficult to work with.

Back in 2016 when Crunchyroll were simulcasting Super in North America we were getting it through Daisuki. The latter simulcast covered Norway, can't remember about France though. Sadly Daisuki are gone now, so we can't count on them.

You would think by Crunchyroll becoming more international the UK and US branches would be able to co-operate, just another reason monopolies suck.

Maybe the BBC will get the rights? They've had Super on iplayer for some time now (strangely only the edited dub), and they recently acquired the One Piece dub after years of Crunchyroll only having the sub.

It would be insanely frustrating if it ended up in limbo like Super did for awhile. I'd hoped we were finally past that nonsense.

[JulieYBM]

Why wasn't it straight away, though?

Because a deal has yet to be made.

Yeah, and Super never was simulcasted in France, for example. Why should a deal be made this time? Why has no coutries in Europe had a deal?

Okay? Then wait until the series ends and there is no official streaming release there, not a full month before the series begins airing in Japan. Plenty of anime don't get simulcast announcements until the last second, when there's a planned release for Europe it will be announced. Not having one yet isn't all that bad a sign.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Maybe the BBC will get the rights? They've had Super on iplayer for some time now (strangely only the edited dub), and they recently acquired the One Piece dub after years of Crunchyroll only having the sub.

I was thinking the same thing, the BBC also had another TOEI show (Dragon Quest Dai), and they've streamed Pokemon Journeys so they seem to like going for the big titles. It doesn't seem to be unusual for iPlayer to edit content, but it may have had something to do with the fact moving BBC3's content online being considered a bit of a risk.

It would be insanely frustrating if it ended up in limbo like Super did for awhile. I'd hoped we were finally past that nonsense.

What I found interesting is at that time DBZ_Lee was told by TOEI EU the UK was "confidential information", and Jerome Mazandarani confirmed every major network rejected Super for being "too violent".

As this was all happening in October 2016 I guess Super was being shopped around in the UK at the time, TOEI held out a few months longer, eventually gave up on a broadcast and let Manga UK release the show on home video after accepting the TV deal they wanted wouldn't happen. Seemingly something changed by 2019 (maybe the success of Broly led to some execs having a change-of-heart?) when POP began airing Super.

It can be frustrating though when it seems like we're making one step forward and two steps back, just like when Broly came out here and other western countries like the US a month after Japan, but then for Super Hero there was a two-month wait. You'd think it would be the reverse with each new movie or installment of the series but sometimes progress isn't as smooth.

Guess it's one of those things we'll never know unless we're in the world of licensing, as some things are complicated and not so clear cut or predictable.

[MCDaveG]

While I don't care about english dub, might the latest trailer for Sparking! ZERO hold any hints with the GT trailer?

Anyway, the art and animation looks great, even incorporating some updated and recent designs from Toriyama, instead of mimicking the Z artstyle. Cool, looking forward.

I am not really into the premise so far, but seeing it as the last outing from the master himself, I will be forgiving this show a lot
Damn, it still sucks and hurts a bit.

[Vhanos]

Ending Theme: "NAKAMA" by Zedd feat. Ai

Looking at who will be performing the ending theme the first time, I went "An AI singer is going to perform the song instead of an actual Japanese singer?!" But I then knew I was wrong.

Not to be mistaken for/with Ai Fairouz?

[M16U3L2015]

Crunchyroll announced its lineup for the Spring season and Europe is still not on the list of territories for stream.

It seems that Crunchyroll does not have the Daima license for Europe.

[TechExpert2021]

Crunchyroll announced its lineup for the Spring season and Europe is still not on the list of territories for stream.

It seems that Crunchyroll does not have the Daima license for Europe.

For some unknown reason, the sub airtime says "Time TBA" despite DB Daima being already scheduled to air at 11:40 PM JST on Fuji TV in Japan on its premiere date. Could it be that Crunchyroll delayed the premiere time? I'm not sure.