The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TobyS]

Hypothetical Gauntlet time!

Kid Trunks runs a gauntlet of Early Z Villains, with an appropriate amount of rest in between. He still has a jokey, cocky personality--this is pre-Buu saga, no SSJ. But, depending on circumstances, he could unlock it.

1. Trunks fiddles around with his mom's time machine, and jumps through an alternate timeline! He comes on Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta and Cui by chance. All jump Trunks to try and make it fair... for them.

2. Trunks seeks out Frieza and co--but only finds Zarbon and Dodoria! Time to throw hands!

3. Frieza deploys the Ginyu Squadron! How does Trunks fair against them...?

4. If Trunks gets past the Ginyu Squad... Frieza himself steps up to the plate! How does the Capsule Corp Golden Boy fair against the emperor of the universe?

The stage is simple for each fight--a basic Frieza Force planet, with an environment similar to Earth's to keep this uncomplicated. Frieza can go to his 100% power state. Rest between each fight is a day, with the exception of Ginyu Squad --> Frieza. Trunks has no time to rest between them.

I'm someone who lowballs the base kids a lot.
But that's compared to boo saga adults, piccolo and humans
He trashes 1. Even if they are apes.
2. Trunks easily.
3. Ginyu squad he trashes of he speed blitzes, otherwise guldo and or ginyus hax can beat him if vegeta never told him stories about his abilities.
4. He might be able to blitz lower forms, but 100% final form is outta his league as it was base bog adult gokus
If he unlocks super saiyan.... Well that's the age old issue were the super saiyan kids shocking people with their power or shocking people that they had so much power for their age. They are basically featless.

[Koitsukai]

Hypothetical Gauntlet time!

Kid Trunks runs a gauntlet of Early Z Villains, with an appropriate amount of rest in between. He still has a jokey, cocky personality--this is pre-Buu saga, no SSJ. But, depending on circumstances, he could unlock it.

1. Trunks fiddles around with his mom's time machine, and jumps through an alternate timeline! He comes on Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta and Cui by chance. All jump Trunks to try and make it fair... for them.

2. Trunks seeks out Frieza and co--but only finds Zarbon and Dodoria! Time to throw hands!

3. Frieza deploys the Ginyu Squadron! How does Trunks fair against them...?

4. If Trunks gets past the Ginyu Squad... Frieza himself steps up to the plate! How does the Capsule Corp Golden Boy fair against the emperor of the universe?

The stage is simple for each fight--a basic Frieza Force planet, with an environment similar to Earth's to keep this uncomplicated. Frieza can go to his 100% power state. Rest between each fight is a day, with the exception of Ginyu Squad --> Frieza. Trunks has no time to rest between them.

1- Trunks oneshots all of them, even if they become apes.
2- He does the same to Freeza's maids.
3- The Ginyu Force suffers the same fate, however, Trunks' overconfidence can become a problem vs Ginyu. If he doesn't finish him quickly, he will end up losing his body. Probably, he'll enjoy the Ginyu Force shenanigans but be bored by the time the Captain appears, not giving him any chance to swap bodies. It depends on how much can they hold his attention.
4- Trunks forces Freeza into his final form, and he will be outclassed like every other base saiyan. Freeza using 60-75% of his power takes it. without any problems.

[Eu sou Perfeito]

Buu's power went down after Buff Buu transformed into Kid Buu.

There is no proof of this.

If absorbing the South Kaioshin made Boo more powerful, I think it’s unlikely that he wouldn’t get weaker when the South Kaioshin was taken from him.

The translations on the official website (most of the time) are reliable, it's better to use Japanese:
https://dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_2640.html

[Hugo Boss]

There is no proof of this.

If absorbing the South Kaioshin made Boo more powerful, I think it’s unlikely that he wouldn’t get weaker when the South Kaioshin was taken from him.

The translations on the official website (most of the time) are reliable, it's better to use Japanese:
https://dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_2640.html

I’m not sure if I understood your point. I’m not seeing any discrepancy in what the Japanese and English website say about Buff Buu.

[Almighty Majin]

A few matches I was thinking of...

1. Pikkon vs Tamagami #3
2. Majin Kuu & Duu vs Gamma 1 & 2 equal power levels
3. Mercenary Battle Royale (equal power levels): Tao Pai Pai vs Glorio vs Ledgic
4. Namek Arc Goku, Namek Arc Freeza, and Shin vs Raditz (has the same training Goku had until Namek and access to SSJ), Movie 4 Cooler, and Degesu
5. Zamasu + Ginyu Goku Potara Fusion vs Degesu + Turles Potara Fusion which is the better fusion?

[Yuji]

A few matches I was thinking of...

1. Pikkon vs Tamagami #3
2. Majin Kuu & Duu vs Gamma 1 & 2 equal power levels
3. Mercenary Battle Royale (equal power levels): Tao Pai Pai vs Glorio vs Ledgic
4. Namek Arc Goku, Namek Arc Freeza, and Shin vs Raditz (has the same training Goku had until Namek and access to SSJ), Movie 4 Cooler, and Degesu
5. Zamasu + Ginyu Goku Potara Fusion vs Degesu + Turles Potara Fusion which is the better fusion?

Paikuhan is hard to gauge. He one shots Cell but you can argue that Cell was distracted, or that "Super Perfect" is a form he can activate, and he was in a suppressed regular state. Stalemating with SS Goku seems to be a more accurate portrayal of his power.

With that said, all the Tamagami are stated to be stronger than Dabra, so he should win.

If the Boo bros have any regen abilities, they should win. If not, the Gammas win.

Tao Pai Pai seems to be the most skilled. Surprised you didn't include Hit, but he would have won.

Degesu seems to be dead weight. If Shin is stronger than Piccolo, or at least he can one shot Freeza, then he's the strongest one there and wins by himself, although Cooler and Raditz should be stronger than their respective brothers.

Zamasu is the most skilled, most powerful and has the better abilities out of the 4. Adding body change in a pinch is even better.

[SonTao]

A few matches I was thinking of...

1. Pikkon vs Tamagami #3
2. Majin Kuu & Duu vs Gamma 1 & 2 equal power levels
3. Mercenary Battle Royale (equal power levels): Tao Pai Pai vs Glorio vs Ledgic
4. Namek Arc Goku, Namek Arc Freeza, and Shin vs Raditz (has the same training Goku had until Namek and access to SSJ), Movie 4 Cooler, and Degesu
5. Zamasu + Ginyu Goku Potara Fusion vs Degesu + Turles Potara Fusion which is the better fusion?

Pikkon wins, no contest.

Kuu and Duu... well, if everyone is equal, then it's likely that the Gammas would win. They have more battle data and skill, and they don't fool around as much. As soon as they recognize that they (possibly) have regeneration capabilities, then the two could team up to obliterate one of the two in a massive blast, and repeat the same against the remaining Majin. Also, Kuu's whole shtick is that he's weaker than Duu so we haven't seen many unique attacks from the guy.

Mercenary Tao goes down first, specifically due to his lack of flight--despite his craftiness, his tools and techniques can't make up for foes that can zone him range wise. Between Gloria and Ledgic, I gotta hand it to Ledgic. His amount of techniques simply outclasses Glorio by a mile.

Well... Goku and Frieza CAN fight together. We've seen that happen before. But would they, Namek arc wise? Goku has SSJ by this point, and clearly won't like Frieza. But if this is a fight to the death, they'll have to push on together. If Raditz has had the same training alongside SSJ, he and Goku would likely be locked in a match--the same thing for Frieza and Cooler. Shin and Degesu would likely be equal for a while. I assume you mean "Movie 5 Cooler" considering the 4th movie was Lord Slug. So, Cooler has his Fifth Form, and would likely dog on Frieza. I think the only way for the Goku/Frieza/Shin team to win is if Shin were to stun Degesu and give Goku and Frieza the potara earrings. If they don't accept the earrings, Cooler would clear Frieza and kill Goku/Shin after. The Goku/Frieza fusion would totally wipe the floor with Raditz first due to Frieza's hatred for the Saiyans, and move on to Cooler / Degesu.

Zamasu is far more skilled in terms of fighting--he and Ginyu would get on fine fusion wise. Two well experienced fighters vs. Turles who mostly relies on fruit and Degesu who is... mid. ZamaGinyu takes the win.

[Hellspawn28]

Third-Eye Gomah vs. ROF 1st Form Freeza

Rules:
Freeza can't transform
No outside help

Who wins?

[Hugo Boss]

Third-Eye Gomah vs. ROF 1st Form Freeza

Rules:
Freeza can't transform
No outside help

Who wins?

Based on the available information, Third-Eye Gomah probably wins.

With the third-eye, Gomah defeated SS Kid Goku, SS Kid Vegeta, Piccolo, Glorio, Shin, Duu, Kuu, and Tamagami #1 simultaneously with ease. NEP even shows him holding his own against SS3 Kid Goku and he might even be stronger. Meanwhile, RoF 1st Form Freeza was stronger than rusty SS Gohan, but the gap is unknown.

If Third-Eye Gomah can fight SS3 Kid Goku evenly (or even dominate in the long run), he’s already far beyond the level of a regular Super Saiyan. While Freeza’s base form in RoF was impressive, it was never implied to be on SS3 tier. His real power only comes into play in his Final Form, which is well beyond SS3 Goku.

Since Freeza can’t transform in this match, and his first form, in my opinion, isn’t enough to handle an SS3-level opponent, then Third-Eye Gomah takes this fight comfortably. Otherwise, if allowed to transform, Freeza has a good chance of winning, depending on how well Gomah performs in episode #18. Golden Freeza will not be necessary though.

[GatoF]

The Ginyu Force vs The Gendarmerie Force

[nineko]

How? One versus one, five versus five, battle royale, ...?

Still, the Ginyu force should easily win in any format, base Vegeta alone could easily dispose of fhem. They seemed to rely on (ineffective) weapons for the most part, and besides, Guldo can play a decisive part, especially if they go for a five versus five. Furthermore, in the off chance that one of the gendarmes is actually stronger, Ginyu can always take over his body.

[ZombieVito]

Third-Eye Gomah vs. ROF 1st Form Freeza

Rules:
Freeza can't transform
No outside help

Who wins?

Gomah.

1st form Freeza is weaker than Good Boo according to Krillin.

[Yuji]

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2
Boo arc Ultimate Gohan vs Third Eye Gomah
Dabra with Third Eye vs Boohan

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Hypothetical Gauntlet time!

Kid Trunks runs a gauntlet of Early Z Villains, with an appropriate amount of rest in between. He still has a jokey, cocky personality--this is pre-Buu saga, no SSJ. But, depending on circumstances, he could unlock it.

1. Trunks fiddles around with his mom's time machine, and jumps through an alternate timeline! He comes on Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta and Cui by chance. All jump Trunks to try and make it fair... for them.

2. Trunks seeks out Frieza and co--but only finds Zarbon and Dodoria! Time to throw hands!

3. Frieza deploys the Ginyu Squadron! How does Trunks fair against them...?

4. If Trunks gets past the Ginyu Squad... Frieza himself steps up to the plate! How does the Capsule Corp Golden Boy fair against the emperor of the universe?

The stage is simple for each fight--a basic Frieza Force planet, with an environment similar to Earth's to keep this uncomplicated. Frieza can go to his 100% power state. Rest between each fight is a day, with the exception of Ginyu Squad --> Frieza. Trunks has no time to rest between them.

I was going to say everybody should jump Trunks to maybe dust him a bit, but Freeza’s army are so ridiculously outmatched they wouldn’t even manage that.

Freeza is the only one who can get some dust on Trunks, but only if Trunks lets him have the first shot. Then it goes like this:

Spoiler:

[Berserker1921]

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2
Boo arc Ultimate Gohan vs Third Eye Gomah
Dabra with Third Eye vs Boohan

1. T2 wins. Was fighting a much stronger Ssj 2 evenly in Vegeta. Mid difficulty at most. With Neva boost? Low difficulty.

2. Gomah wins. Goku is stated by shin to be the strongest fighter in u7. So he is above Gohan at this point. And even at Ssj 3, he wasn’t doing much against Gomah. And had other low ssj3 guys helping him. Low difficulty in Gomah’s favor.

3. If Darbura is anywhere as strong as Gomah is, I’d say he wins. Anywhere between low to mid difficulty, depending if the Evil eye has a fixed amp rate.

[ZombieVito]

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2
Boo arc Ultimate Gohan vs Third Eye Gomah
Dabra with Third Eye vs Boohan

Tamagami 2.
Gomah.
Dabura.

[Xeogran]

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2

I'm giving it to SS2 Gohan here. People are overrating SS2 Mini Vegeta, as there is definitely a strength nerf that came with the de-aging wish. And even despite that, Vegeta was doing well against T2 at this form. Cell Games Gohan was stronger, he would win.

[Hugo Boss]

Cell Games SS2 Gohan vs Tamagami 2

I'm giving it to SS2 Gohan here. People are overrating SS2 Mini Vegeta, as there is definitely a strength nerf that came with the de-aging wish. And even despite that, Vegeta was doing well against T2 at this form. Cell Games Gohan was stronger, he would win.

Agreed. On top of the strength nerf from de-aging, Vegeta also wasn’t fully accustomed to using Super Saiyan forms in that body. You could see him improving as the fight went on, which means he wasn’t at his peak yet. Meanwhile, Cell Games SS2 Gohan was already a complete fighter at his prime. He takes this.

[Almighty Majin]

Who is the strongest opponent each of the following characters can defeat with the Evil Third Eye equipped? Assume they are equipping the eye in their strongest state.

1. Emperor Pilaf
2. King Piccolo
3. Garlic Jr.
4. Lord Slug
5. Namek Freeza
6. M5 Cooler
7. Bojack
8. Cell
9. M10 Broly
10. Buuhan
11. Moro

[Yuji]

Who is the strongest opponent each of the following characters can defeat with the Evil Third Eye equipped? Assume they are equipping the eye in their strongest state.

1. Emperor Pilaf
2. King Piccolo
3. Garlic Jr.
4. Lord Slug
5. Namek Freeza
6. M5 Cooler
7. Bojack
8. Cell
9. M10 Broly
10. Buuhan
11. Moro

We don't have much to go over. We have to assume the third eye is a linear power-up or multiplier for everyone. If we assume so, we don't know how strong Gomah was. Glorio kept insisting that Gomah was no pushover, so maybe he's at a SS tier pre-eye. After the eye, he jumps to beyond-SS3. This means he got at least x8 stronger, let's round up to x10.

With that said,
1. Pilaf should be able to beat 21st Budokai Goku and defeat anyone up to Tao Pai Pai.
2. Piccolo Daimao defeats Raditz and can give his Saiyan arc son a decent fight, but ultimately loses. Should defeat all the humans in that arc.
3. Garlic Jr should give Saiyan arc Goku a decent fight until he pulls out the Kaioken.
4. Slug can defeat base Goku (no Kaioken) and base Vegeta from the end of the Namek arc.
5. Freeza at 100% should defeat Grade 2 Vegeta and Grade 3 Trunks from the Artificial Humans arc.
6. I don't think Coola is actually that much stronger and there's a considerable gap between Vegeta and Trunks, and Goku and Gohan, so he's at the same tier as his brother.
7. Bojack defeats SS3 Goku with ease.
8. Same with Cell.
9. Same with Broly. I don't think any of these reach SS3 Gotenks or Ultimate Gohan yet.
10. Buuhan should be on par with Super Vegetto now and force him into SS2. This means he defeats Baby Vegeta and some early Super characters too.
11. Moro becomes incredibly strong and probably the strongest character outside of the GoDs and angels.