Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Dabura would probably win. It was stated that Gomah was the strongest villain at that time. And if let’s say that Third Eye doesn’t have a set power increase or level up. Dabura is eons above Gomah. He was at least Ssj Goku (Cell Saga) power level before Babidi kidnapped him.
I bet Dabura would probably reach Ssj 1 or Ssj 2 Vegito levels. So, he stomps hard.
How much stronger is Android 20 compared to Namek Freeza?
I am tired of people claiming that Freeza could beat Android 20 simply because the Androids were defeated by Super Saiyajin level characters. That argument ignores the massive power escalation that happens after Namek. Vegeta clearly scales above Super Saiyajin Goku at the start of the Android saga, even accounting for Goku’s heart virus. Goku still trained for three years specifically to face the Androids, on top of the additional year he spent mastering techniques on Yardrat. Piccolo was also stated to be around Super Saiyajin level and trained alongside a Super Saiyajin for those same three years. This directly contradicts the idea that Piccolo only surpassed Freeza after fusing with Kami Sama later in the story. When you look at the overall scaling, it becomes clear that everyone involved by the Android saga is comfortably stronger than any Namek level character by a significant margin.
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BernardoCairo wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:43 am
How much stronger is Android 20 compared to Namek Freeza?
I am tired of people claiming that Freeza could beat Android 20 simply because the Androids were defeated by Super Saiyajin level characters. That argument ignores the massive power escalation that happens after Namek. Vegeta clearly scales above Super Saiyajin Goku at the start of the Android saga, even accounting for Goku’s heart virus. Goku still trained for three years specifically to face the Androids, on top of the additional year he spent mastering techniques on Yardrat. Piccolo was also stated to be around Super Saiyajin level and trained alongside a Super Saiyajin for those same three years. This directly contradicts the idea that Piccolo only surpassed Freeza after fusing with Kami Sama later in the story. When you look at the overall scaling, it becomes clear that everyone involved by the Android saga is comfortably stronger than any Namek level character by a significant margin.
He's a lot stronger, but not multiple times stronger. Most people scale him to be around the level of Goku and Trunks when they met, 3 years before the androids arrived.
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