The Nicktoons Broadcast of Kai

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I previously wrote a thread detailing the CW/4Kids broadcasts, and Kix for those of us here in the British Isles, but as a lot of people here followed Kai on Nicktoons I figured why not?

It was a fascinating broadcast for sure. Funimation gets the chance to right the wrongs of their Dragon Ball Z dub, but with tight deadlines from Nicktoons, voice actor's health suffering and a music scandal that no doubt became, as TheBlackPaladin often put it an "organisational nightmare" we have the original American broadcast for the post-Toonami generation.

Kai was announced for Nicktoons in March 2010 with a premiere date for the following May shortly after the first DVD/Blu-Ray release from Funimation.

During Dragon Ball Kai's initial run on Nicktoons episodes premiered Monday-Thursdays at 8pm and new episodes were available to stream on Nicktoon's site 30-60 minutes before TV airings. On its first day Kai became the highest-rated series premiere in the channel's history with double and triple-digit increases over the previous year in its key demographics, which included kids 6-11 (+71%), boys 6-11 (+122%), tweens 9-14 (+150%), boys 9-14 and total viewers (+144%), beating records previously held by Wolverine and The X-Men.

In its early days there were two new debut episodes Monday-Thursday, which dropped to one, and later Monday and Tuesday were dropped. On several occasions fans could expect either one new episode that week or two on whatever day they premiered until Nicktoons got back into somewhat of a rhythm February and March the next year with two more big breaks prior to when the Android arc gets going and Perfect Cell emerges. Towards the end of 2011 in the pre-Christmas period Nicktoons had two more somewhat regular runs of new episodes.

• Episodes 1-8 : Monday-Thursday (2 premiers per day)
• Episodes 9-27 : Monday-Thursday (1 premier each day, excluding June Bank holiday)
• Episodes 28-35 : Wednesday-Thursday (1 premier each day)
• Episodes 36 : Monday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episodes 37-46 : Wednesday-Thursday (1 premier each day)
• Episodes 47-48 : Saturday (2 premiers on a single day)
• Episodes 49-50 : Thursday (2 premiers on a single day)
• Episode 51 : Saturday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episodes 52-58 : Wednesday-Thursday (2 premiers each day)
• Episodes 59-63 : Tuesday-Thursday first week, Wednesday-Thursday second (1 premier each day)
• Episode 64 : Monday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episodes 65-69 : Thursday (1 premier each day)
• Episodes 70-79 : Wednesday-Thursday (1 premier each day)
• Episode 80 : Monday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episodes 81-90 : Wednesday-Thursday (1 premier each day)
• Episode 91 : Friday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episodes 92-96 : Monday-Friday (1 premier each day)
• Episode 97 : Sunday (1 premier on a single day)
• Episode 98 : Friday (1 premier on a single day)

Following Kai's success it was reported not only was Nicktoons the fastest growing kid's channel but that they formed a partnership with the National Football League to produce a short animated series called Rush Zone: Guardians of the Core. At the time Nicktoons was available to 57 million homes with cable, digital cable and satellite and on various packages like Cablevision, Charter Communications, Comcast Cable, Cox Communications, DirecTV, DISH Network and Time Warner Cable.

Although there was no break between the Saiyan saga and early Namek saga the latter was promoted during the credits of SpongeBob SquarePants, and by early August Nicktoons began to rerun Kai from the first episode.

By July the 8pm Monday-Thursday timeslot remained for the 'Summer Primetime' event but Nicktoons shifted gears to 1 "catch-up" episode Monday and Tuesday and 1 premiere Wednesday and Thursday. As such for July fans could expect 2 repeats and 2 premiers a week, but there was plenty of other times to catch up As Nicktoons aired Kai at various timeslots:

• Weekdays 7am-8am
• Monday-Thursday 11am-11:30pm
• Fridays 12am-1am
• Saturdays 6pm-7pm
• Sundays 9am-10am
• Sundays 8pm-10pm
• Sundays 12am-1am (no breaks)

Fans first spotted promos on August 23 2010 for new episodes beginning on September 6th, on this day episode 36 premiered at 8:05pm and a rerun of the series started during the 5-6:30pm triple bill.

Sometime in October 2010 Nicktoons gave fans a chance to catch up on the first 36 episodes when they were airing 12 episodes a day from midday Saturday-Monday with the tagline "Z it all weekend". The next two episodes, which aired on Wednesday and Thursday got their own promo as did 41.

Promos for new episodes premiering on October 20th said "episodes" leading fans to believe it would be more than one. At the time Nicktoon's site listed two new episodes premiering on October 20th and 21st as fans noted. For the Freeza saga, which began October 20th Nicktoons reverted back to airing 2 new episodes a week Wednesdays and Thursdays. For these promos most of Freeza's forms were shown. At the time Nicktoon's site listed two new episodes premiering on October 20th and 21st as fans noted.

Around this time they were advertising Thanksgiving weekend marathon of Avatar, DBKai, and that Zevo show as 'leading up to premieres'. To celebrate Thanksgiving Kai featured as part of an All-Heroes Weekend marathon on November 27 2010 kicking off at 9am with episode 23 (Vegeta's Covert Maneuvers! A Tragic Assault on the Namekians!) and after a brief airing of NFL Rush Zone the two new premier episodes 47 (Awaken, Legendary Warrior! Goku the Super Saiyan!) and 48 (The Angry Super Saiyan! Goku Throws Down the Gauntlet!) had their debuts at 9:05pm and 9:30pm respectively.

Toonzone threads and TV spots at the time indicated new episodes would premier on December 16th, which fans corroborated through sites like these.

On January 22, 2011 Nicktoons teased new episodes in a tweet and 4 days later began to advertise them on the credits of previously released episodes for a February 9th release with images of Trunks and King Cold. Shortly after a promo was shown.

On March 12, 2011 fans could vote for either Kai or Avatar in Clash of the Nicktoons. Ironically while Nicktoons premiered Kai before the CW the latter was premiering episodes with Kikuchi around this time likely because Nicktoons was using masters they already had and the CW was getting new materials as Kai was being shown in reruns on Nicktoons around this time.

On May 30 2011 Nicktoons had an 11-hour marathon promising to lead into the final arc as part of their "Summer Blast-Off" commencing at 10am with episode 44 (A Boundary-Pushing Brawl! Goku, Frieza, and Ginyu Again?) and ending with the 8pm premiere of episode 64 (Number 17 and Number 18! The Androids Awaken!) the only new episode that day. That June the following 5 episodes all premiered on the Thursdays at 8pm.

That summer new episodes of the Android saga premiered on wednesdays at 8pm.

Around mid-July 2011 Nicktoons aired new episodes of Kai with clips of Kung Fu Panda Legends of Awesomeness for the 6pm airing titled Kung Fu Crew. Kai was also part of Nicktoon's Marathon-A-Thon event where each day the channel gave a select show a 24-hour marathon each day of that week. Kai's marathon began September 2nd at 6am with episode 13 and ended the morning after with episode 60 (The Unbeatable Enemy Within! Goku vs. Android 19!).

For Columbus Day, which was October 10 2011 Nicktoons held an 11-hour marathon from 10am-9pm rerunning every episode from 58 (Goku's New Move, Instant Transmission! The Three-Year Training Session Begins!) to 79 (The Battle Turns for the Worst! Cell Attacks Android 18!) and then the premiere of 80 (The Tables Are Turned! Witness the Power of Perfection!). The episode after that premiered over a week later on October 19 2011.

Another marathon followed on November 11th from 9am-8pm with no new premiers.

By late November Nicktoons still aired episodes 53-63 with the Yamamoto score, these were of course the only episodes in English-speaking territories were the score was exclusive to the TV broadcasts as the home releases never got further than episode 52.

Kai was part of the “Feast of Fury Week” where it was scheduled for a 12-8pm marathon beginning with episode 75 Power Unknown! Android 16 Breaks His Silence! and ending with episode 90 The Opening Round is Concluded! Goku's Moment of Decision!. The following episode Get Angry, Gohan! Release Your Hidden Power! premiered at 9pm.

Prior to wrapping up Kai Nicktoons began a complete rerun titled "Super Saiyan Saga" where from December 5 2011 and for two weeks Monday-Friday at 6pm inclusive they aired 9 episodes a day until December 19th with the premiere of episode 92 (Tears for an Android! Gohan's Inner Rage Bursts Forth!) at 8pm. From that point there was a new episode at the same timeslot until Friday that week. Every night of this run fans got a new code to unlock sneak peaks and exclusive access to a never-before-seen episode on the final night on nicktoons.com/dragonball.

The final episode of Kai (until 98 and The Final Chapters) premiered on January 1, 2012 on Nicktoons, although it was not until mid March that they began to rerun the series from episode 1 again. For the rest of the year the hype for Kai began to die down in the US, Nicktoons picked up GT, likely because they thought it would be the only follow-up option they would ever have. It was only in November that news about the Boo arc being dubbed first leaked.

Nonetheless Nicktoons opened 2013 with a full 24-hour marathon of Kai beginning with episode 37 (A Nightmare Transformation! Frieza's Power Level: One-Million?!) and going all the way to 84 (Training Complete! Goku Sizes Up the Competition!) and Kai remained in reruns with two double bills Monday-Friday at 3pm and 6pm and weekends at 2am (at this time GT aired 1:30pm and 3:30am), and the show returned to earlier timeslots.

The final episode Peace for the Future! The Spirit of Goku is Forever! premiered February 8 2013 at 10pm fittingly straight after History of Trunks, amusingly marketed as "the lost episode", and from here the end was near. Kai and GT were both pulled from Nicktoon's schedule the week of April 17 2013, but it was a well loved broadcast and many are nostalgic for it today.

Heres some interesting trivia about Kai we learned prior to the Funimation dub's production and over the course of the Nicktoons airings:

• Fan once asked Sabat how they would handle "Over 8,000" vs "Over 9,000" and he teased "Let's just say, everyone wins", except for us Ocean dub fans that is
• Sabat told a fan on Facebook dubbing was delayed by a week, possibly explaining dialogue errors slipping in
• Sabat said on Facebook he delayed production for as long as he could, but ultimately had to go back to voicing his characters before his doctor's recommended rest period was over due to deadlines with Nicktoons. I don't know at what point in Kai they were when this happened, though, partially because the episodes got dubbed WAY in advance of their actual release. By the time "Season 1, Part 1" was released, for example, they were well into Namek
• Krillin said Destructo Disc, twice, even though he's said Kienzan more than once in previous episodes
• There were different variations of the Kienzan pronunciation, although Destructo Disc was consistent:
  • Kienzen
  • Kienzan
• TheBlackPaladin said "Tri-Beam" was still in the show instead of "Kiko-ho." Somebody asked Sabat on his Facebook page what was up with it and his response was, "Sorry, I don't know what happened with the Tri-Beam thing."
• TheBlackPaladin's other theory was all of the attack names that haven't been translated back to their real names have, so far, have been used as part of an episode title. It's possible that FUNimation simply didn't bother to create alternate episode titles--an "uncut" title and an "edited' title
• Despite the inconsistency in pronunciations and names episode guides often defaulted to Japanese terminology.
• Chuck Huber suffered heart attack but also recovered and did all of #17's lines
• Dende mentions having brothers and sisters, before then saying there's only one type of Namekian, which Sabat said on Facebook they caught and would try fix for the home release. It didn't happen
• Episodes 1-5 had no retroactive uncensoring
• The Nicktoons Kikuchi mix of episodes 22 and 24 contained lines not heard before on the channel
• The original "writer," J. Michael Tatum, wasn't working on as many Kai episodes in the second half as he was in the first.
• On July 22nd uncut line "Ugly as it is, in this form I'm capable of snapping your neck like a twig" slipped into episode 24
• Episode 74's description on the Nicktoons site at the time said "Room of Spirit and Time"

And some comments from the voice actors at the time:

Spoiler:

Here's what you guys don't know, but need to. Chris Sabat has gone far beyond the call of duty behind the scenes to make this version happen in an amazing way that it did not before. He has donated much of his personal time and energy into this, and has been extraordinarily picky with the direction, as well as double checking japanese meaning against the adaptation for accuracy as well as entertainment value. If it were not for him personally, I would probably not be able to be a part of it. On a technical note, sound quality will be unmatched to the previous due to the amazing and highest quality gear available at Okratron as well as Rawly Pickens golden ears checking every single line for audio quality. It's the way it should have been done to begin with, but that's 20/20 hindsight. I am thrilled about the new cast, and no offense to my awesome castmates, but my new favorite voice for DBZ Kai is the Narrator. You're going to love it. Also, I am still awesome.

Chris Sabat replied:

Hey Sean! Glad you popped in and thanks for the vote of confidence.

This version of DBZ means a lot to me. It's extremely rare that you get a chance to do something you did 10 YEARS ago all over again. And I'm not wasting the chance. We're fixing things that were wrong with the first version and trying to make it better, which is why you'll see some changes. But we don't want to make Kai so radically different that doesn't feel like DBZ anymore, so they may be some things that we don't change that you wish we would. But I honestly believe you're going to find DBZ Kai to be a totally mature version of a show, a version that grew up over the last 10 years and has come home stronger, well trained and a hell of a lot cooler.

From Sabat:

"Yes, there were some casting changes. And there were good reasons for all of them. I really can't go into it, but trust me the reasons are totally valid. But you have nothing to worry about. The new Narrator is awesome. Monica sounds JUST like Tiffany's Bulma, only better! Colleen is a very age-appropriate Gohan and brings a new quality of acting that you haven't experienced before. The scripts are totally true to the REAL story of DBZ. The new music and SFX are great. The editing of Kai is SO MUCH TIGHTER and more exciting than the original Z. You are going to LOVE this new version. A lot of hard work has gone into this new version and I'm sure that once you see how much better EVERYTHING is about this version you'll completely forget about all these little things that worry you now. Just wait..."

I can tell you this, my friends. The edited version and the uncut version are going to be pretty similar. You're not going to believe how great the scripts are!

On pronunciations and/or names, etc.

Honestly, man, I'm not spending much time changing the pronunciation of names that were misspelled or mispronounced. Even if I tried, we've been saying it the wrong way for so long it would be hard to change it. Sorry, man. We'll see, though.

We have corrected the use of Kay-o ken to kai-o ken. And I refuse to say kamayamaya...

Did anyone watch Kai on Nicktoons? Would love to hear your stories.

[Yellow Flower King]

I love this channel. Even though eventually it simply became a Spongebob fest.

[mecha3000]

Man, I'm pretty late to this post, but you brought up a lot of interesting things I never knew about Kai (kind of messed up that Sabat said Monica is a better Bulma than Tiffany, if that's a real quote). I was 13/14 when Kai aired on Nicktoons back in 2010/2011 and have nothing, but fond memories of that time. Despite some bad times, 2010-2012 were the best years of my teen/adolescent years from 8th grade through 10th grade. And a lot of that has to do with Dragon Ball Z Kai airing on Nicktoons and releasing on DVD/Blu-ray during those years. Watching Kai on Nicktoons was really the first and last time I ever truly experienced Dragon Ball on TV week-to-week. I was too young when Z aired on Toonami, but Nicktoons gave me that experience.

Kai was truly mind-blowing for a kid like me who grew up with the scraps of Millennial's experience with DBZ. Seeing the long episode titles like "Prologue to Battle! The Return of Goku!", the Japanese score being kept, and a better more accurate dub with some new voices (like Chris Ayres' Freeza) was amazing to me as a kid. Keep in mind, back then, anime was still moving out of the "Americanize phase". Another thing is that when Kai aired for the first time from 2010-2011, I always felt it would lead to Dragon Ball returning. And that's exactly what happened when Battle of Gods came out, dubbed in 2014. If anything, Kai and Battle of Gods coincided nicely with each other despite the whole "Kai Boo Arc coming after BoG" thing.

I even just ordered a Kai SDCC 2010 Nicktoons poster and Kai Nicktoons promo card from eBay that I never even knew existed. Mainly, because I cherish that time in my life and jumped at the opportunity to own a piece of it. Also, it's cool to me to own Kai Nicktoons merch from back when DBZ Kai was this new phenomenon and release (especially with "Super Kai" now literally being that). I plan to frame the poster and promo card together and hang it in my house too. And especially with "Super Kai" coming, I've been feeling a lot of nostalgia but also intrigue for what "Z Kai" represented, which was basically the first time Funimation actually handled DBZ right (which is something I'm sure was definitely appreciated by the Daizenshuu/Kanzentai crowd at the time).

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I love this channel. Even though eventually it simply became a Spongebob fest.

Yeah, bit like Cartoon Network India with Teen Titans Go, they ended up overdepending on one show for ratings.

Man, I'm pretty late to this post, but you brought up a lot of interesting things I never knew about Kai (kind of messed up that Sabat said Monica is a better Bulma than Tiffany, if that's a real quote). I was 13/14 when Kai aired on Nicktoons back in 2010/2011 and have nothing, but fond memories of that time. Despite some bad times, 2010-2012 were the best years of my teen/adolescent years from 8th grade through 10th grade. And a lot of that has to do with Dragon Ball Z Kai airing on Nicktoons and releasing on DVD/Blu-ray during those years. Watching Kai on Nicktoons was really the first and last time I ever truly experienced Dragon Ball on TV week-to-week. I was too young when Z aired on Toonami, but Nicktoons gave me that experience.

Kai was truly mind-blowing for a kid like me who grew up with the scraps of Millennial's experience with DBZ. Seeing the long episode titles like "Prologue to Battle! The Return of Goku!", the Japanese score being kept, and a better more accurate dub with some new voices (like Chris Ayres' Freeza) was amazing to me as a kid. Keep in mind, back then, anime was still moving out of the "Americanize phase". Another thing is that when Kai aired for the first time from 2010-2011, I always felt it would lead to Dragon Ball returning. And that's exactly what happened when Battle of Gods came out, dubbed in 2014. If anything, Kai and Battle of Gods coincided nicely with each other despite the whole "Kai Boo Arc coming after BoG" thing.

I even just ordered a Kai SDCC 2010 Nicktoons poster and Kai Nicktoons promo card from eBay that I never even knew existed. Mainly, because I cherish that time in my life and jumped at the opportunity to own a piece of it. Also, it's cool to me to own Kai Nicktoons merch from back when DBZ Kai was this new phenomenon and release (especially with "Super Kai" now literally being that). I plan to frame the poster and promo card together and hang it in my house too. And especially with "Super Kai" coming, I've been feeling a lot of nostalgia but also intrigue for what "Z Kai" represented, which was basically the first time Funimation actually handled DBZ right (which is something I'm sure was definitely appreciated by the Daizenshuu/Kanzentai crowd at the time).

Glad you had that experience growing up with Kai on Nicktoons. I love that the Z portion of the story had a second golden age on US TV with Nicktoons, especially considering that time in the early 2010s marked the end of traditional TV's glory days. As you say, it was like Toonami for a new generation that were too young to experience the late 90s/ early 2000s boom.

Didn't know there was exclusive Nicktoons Kai merch, but that's really neat and definitely a nice memento to have.

[mecha3000]

Glad you had that experience growing up with Kai on Nicktoons. I love that the Z portion of the story had a second golden age on US TV with Nicktoons, especially considering that time in the early 2010s marked the end of traditional TV's glory days. As you say, it was like Toonami for a new generation that were too young to experience the late 90s/ early 2000s boom.

Didn't know there was exclusive Nicktoons Kai merch, but that's really neat and definitely a nice memento to have.

Kai definitely means a lot to me because I forgot to mention that as a kid, I was banned from watching DB and DBZ for a while after my mom saw some questionable scenes from each series. But in 2010, I was 13 and old enough where she allowed me to watch them again, which perfectly coincided with Kai's release. And yeah, I was surprised about the merch too. Kai's time on Nicktoons, while iconic to Gen Z (of which I'm included being born in '97), was very short-lived. So, it's amazing that Kai got any Nicktoons merch at all. Here's the images of the merch I bought.





And I doubt these are fake because who would waste time making Nicktoons-branded Kai merch in the year 2026? They seem legit and I've seen a listing for the poster and image of the card on another website (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... e-24767557) and Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsupe ... _aired_on/) that look identical to the ones I bought. On eBay, however, there were two separate listings for both of these (funny enough, though, both items were placed on the same type of material, but from different sellers?) and only one of each, so luckily I bought both. That also meant having to pay more just to get the Kai promo card, along with the other cards. I mean, sure, I enjoy Avatar and Iron Man is cool and all, but definitely not fans of them as much as Dragon Ball. And the sketchers and football cartoons are the dumbest things ever, in my opinion. But whatever, had to buy them all to get the Kai card.

And maybe, I'll try to get Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat to sign the poster (on the side of their characters since there's plenty of room for that). I also wanted to get them to sign the Goku and Vegeta cards that came with the Level Sets. And for Chris Ayres, the Resurrection 'F' cards that came with the Blu-ray collector's edition. Unfortunately, Chris passed away so maybe, I'll get Daman Mills' signature (since he was Chris' understudy voice)? I mean, it won't be the same, but it makes more sense to me than getting Linda Young's signature, who sounds nothing like Chris Ayres.

[manbearpig34]

DBZ Kai on Nicktoons [as well as DBGT on Nicktoons] was my gateway into the Dragon Ball franchise. I've told this story before, to others not here, but 5th grade was a difficult period for me. Moved to a new town, put in a new school with a curriculum I had zero knowledge of. So for once, I wasn't one of the brightest. I felt dumb.

I was mad, I didn't know how to express it...but every day, coming home in the afternoons and seeing Dragon Ball Z Kai on Nicktoons really brightened up my day [along with seeing Batman the Animated Series on the Hub Network].

[Yellow Flower King]

Man, this is so sweet to read. Nicktoons was so underrated. To this day I think Buu Kai only happened because DBZKai was such a huge hit for Nicktoons.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

DBZ Kai on Nicktoons [as well as DBGT on Nicktoons] was my gateway into the Dragon Ball franchise. I've told this story before, to others not here, but 5th grade was a difficult period for me. Moved to a new town, put in a new school with a curriculum I had zero knowledge of. So for once, I wasn't one of the brightest. I felt dumb.

I was mad, I didn't know how to express it...but every day, coming home in the afternoons and seeing Dragon Ball Z Kai on Nicktoons really brightened up my day [along with seeing Batman the Animated Series on the Hub Network].

That's great to hear, I also remember being bullied really badly in school but watching Dragon Ball always gave me hope for things to get better, seeing Goku and crew and all they were able to overcome inspired me to rise up and face the challenges in front of me no matter how tough they seemed.

Man, this is so sweet to read. Nicktoons was so underrated. To this day I think Buu Kai only happened because DBZKai was such a huge hit for Nicktoons.

It's such a shame Boo Kai never aired on Nicktoons, it would have been a huge hit and probably led to that portion of the story being broadcast on Kix in the UK and other places.

[mecha3000]

Man, this is so sweet to read. Nicktoons was so underrated. To this day I think Buu Kai only happened because DBZKai was such a huge hit for Nicktoons.

Oh, I guarantee Kai's international success is what led to the Boo arc even happening (which I wished aired on Nicktoons at the time). As far as I know, Kai wasn't a big hit in Japan, but did really well outside Japan. Just like how Super Hero kind of flopped in Japan (from what I remember), but did great in America. And when I look back on it, I feel like the early 2010s (at least 2010-2013ish) wasn't really the end of traditional TV's glory days. From what I remember back in school and at home, everyone still watched TV. I mean, remember there was Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead, for example. If anything, TV was thriving. It wasn't until the mid 2010s when Netflix and streaming started to overtake TV, in my opinion. But I guess, in terms at being at the height of success, maybe TV's popularity died after the '90s and early 2000s.

Also, glad to see I'm not the only one who grew up on the Nicktoons run of Kai. I mean, looking back on it, even Naruto Shippuden ran on Disney XD back then because Cartoon Network was over anime at that point and opted for CN Real crap. Stupid Stuart Snyder. And Disney XD and Nicktoons did a few marathons and movie "premieres" for Kai and Shippuden so they must've at least done decent on the channels. And Nicktoons really did right by Dragon Ball by airing Kai/GT/movies, making badass promos, and even showing uncut content. Fusion Reborn kept everything except the Dictator for obvious reasons. A Hero's Legacy literally showed SATAN CITY when it aired on Nicktoons. I'd argue Nicktoons treated Dragon Ball better than Cartoon Network, in some ways. And come on, I got to watch Dragon Ball on the same channel as Avatar and Spongebob for a time? That was great.

And side note, I think I will try to get that Kai Nicktoons poster signed by Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat. Might as well while both of them are still with us. So, in the next few years, I'll try to go to a convention. Funny enough, I used to live in California and have seen a lot of the actors go to Anime Riverside, fifteen minutes away from where I used to live. That would've been so convenient, but whatever.

[Yellow Flower King]

It is so sad Kai and its style of dubbing (Faithful to the Japanese except to make changes to make dialogue work better in english) didnt caught on, despite being so popular with both kids and adults and aired on more than one major channel. By Super, Sabat got "The weaboos already seen Super, I'm making this for the DEE BEE ZEE Fans!" on his mind. Well I do hope that for Super Beerus he gets to say "The DEE BEE ZEE already seen Super, I'm being faithful this time around."

[mecha3000]

It is so sad Kai and its style of dubbing (Faithful to the Japanese except to make changes to make dialogue work better in english) didnt caught on, despite being so popular with both kids and adults and aired on more than one major channel. By Super, Sabat got "The weaboos already seen Super, I'm making this for the DEE BEE ZEE Fans!" on his mind. Well I do hope that for Super Beerus he gets to say "The DEE BEE ZEE already seen Super, I'm being faithful this time around."

I think with "Super Kai", Chris Sabat and crew might as well be more faithful this time around. I mean, in Sabat's words, he said something along the lines of "How many times do you get a chance to redo something like Z?" Well, now the same applies to Super. Only in Super's case, the dub wasn't nearly as egregious as Z's was. Still, changes were made for Super's dub. So, for "Super Kai", I think the goal should be to make the script like 99% accurate to the Japanese script besides things like "Saiyan being said as SAYIN" and "Tien" obviously for "branding and avoiding confusion" reasons. And redubbing Super to be more faithful will probably make Sabat and crew feel more comfortable about the changes they made in OG Super.

Also, I'm now debating whether or not to get my Kai Nicktoons poster and card signed or leave as-is. I'm starting to lean towards leaving it alone because having it signed will kind of diminish its value, especially with how rare the poster/card are, if that makes sense. I think I'll just frame the poster and card without autographs.

[Yellow Flower King]

You will never ever get another chance to get it signed. Better just get it signed.

[mecha3000]

You will never ever get another chance to get it signed. Better just get it signed.

Thanks. Alright, I probably will go ahead and get the poster and card signed. On the poster, for Sean - his signature and "I AM THE SUPER SAIYAN SON GOKU!!!" and for Chris - his signature and "IT'S OVER 9000!!! (a homage to Nicktoons using that line instead of IT'S OVER 8000). And on the card, just Sean's signature.

Also, I think with Dragon Ball Super coming back in a big way soon, I'm sure Sean and Chris will continue to appear at conventions.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Definitely good idea to get those items signed while you can. Geekdom said Schemmel wants to retire when he can afford to so only time will tell how much longer he'll be voicing Goku. That said he will probably stick around for Super Kai and probably a couple more years of Dragon Ball projects beyond that.

[Yellow Flower King]

I am so appalled Adult Swim actually seeing Kai thrive on fucking death slots and them going "Oh shit people like this gotta shut it down!" and take down the 5AM Weekday reruns despite doing better than premieres on Saturday Night.

[mecha3000]

Definitely good idea to get those items signed while you can. Geekdom said Schemmel wants to retire when he can afford to so only time will tell how much longer he'll be voicing Goku. That said he will probably stick around for Super Kai and probably a couple more years of Dragon Ball projects beyond that.

Thanks for the second opinion on the signing thing. Okay, I think I'll get the Nicktoons poster/card signed either next year or 2028. By then, I should have enough money to travel to conventions and especially now knowing that Sean wants to retire soon, it makes getting my things signed more of a priority.

I am so appalled Adult Swim actually seeing Kai thrive on fucking death slots and them going "Oh shit people like this gotta shut it down!" and take down the 5AM Weekday reruns despite doing better than premieres on Saturday Night.

Yeah, them getting rid of Kai despite the decent ratings and the fact that they JUST started airing it in that 5am slot, is weird. But now that I know they only had access to about 50 episodes or so, it makes a lot more sense. I mean, if they're just going to restart Kai every time Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan, then what's the point? I thought they would at least be able to air all 167 episodes of Kai, but forget it now. It's just like how Toonami Rewind was teased to be this big thing and how I was hoping maybe OG Naruto could actually air all 220 episodes on Cartoon Network during that run, but then they got rid of Toonami Rewind. So, yeah, traditional TV is pretty much meaningless now. But again, at least, Dragon Ball airs on TV in the year 2026 in any capacity. And also, as I've said before, I'm glad Kai continues to be relevant almost 20 years later and is seen by Crunchyroll/Funimation and Adult Swim as pretty much the definitive version of Dragon Ball Z, at this point.

[Yellow Flower King]

Definitely good idea to get those items signed while you can. Geekdom said Schemmel wants to retire when he can afford to so only time will tell how much longer he'll be voicing Goku. That said he will probably stick around for Super Kai and probably a couple more years of Dragon Ball projects beyond that.

Thanks for the second opinion on the signing thing. Okay, I think I'll get the Nicktoons poster/card signed either next year or 2028. By then, I should have enough money to travel to conventions and especially now knowing that Sean wants to retire soon, it makes getting my things signed more of a priority.

I am so appalled Adult Swim actually seeing Kai thrive on fucking death slots and them going "Oh shit people like this gotta shut it down!" and take down the 5AM Weekday reruns despite doing better than premieres on Saturday Night.

Yeah, them getting rid of Kai despite the decent ratings and the fact that they JUST started airing it in that 5am slot, is weird. But now that I know they only had access to about 50 episodes or so, it makes a lot more sense. I mean, if they're just going to restart Kai every time Goku reaches Super Saiyan, then what's the point? I thought they would at least be able to air all 167 episodes of Kai, but forget it now. It's just like how Toonami Rewind was teased to be this big thing and how I was hoping maybe OG Naruto could actually air all 220 episodes on Cartoon Network during that run, but then they got rid of Toonami Rewind. So, yeah, traditional TV is pretty much meaningless now. But again, at least, Dragon Ball airs on TV in the year 2026 in any capacity. And also, as I've said before, I'm glad Kai continues to be relevant almost 20 years later and is seen by Crunchyroll/Funimation and Adult Swim as pretty much the definitive version of Dragon Ball Z, at this point.

That reminds me, have we heard any stories about streaming? I do know it is massively important. But the only story I've heard of streaming is Geekdom watching with their daughter. Oh and Clifford Chapin too!

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

knowing that Sean wants to retire soon, it makes getting my things signed more of a priority.

I don't know if Schemmel wants to retire soon, as I say Geekdom said he wants to do it when he can afford to, which will probably be a while yet since California is an expensive state to live in. Just be aware by the sounds of things he won't be doing this as long as Nozawa has.