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by Herms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:11 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:Shenlong Times? Sure for being dim.
They're little 8-page inserts that came with each of the daizenshuu. They have interviews with various DragonBall-related people like Toriyama's editors, comics drawn by Toriyama, fan letters from famous DragonBall fans like Jacky Chan, and then current DragonBall news.
MagicBox wrote:Herms wrote:But I assume there's no Shenlong Times?
'Fraid not. I wasn't really expecting it, but it still was a little surprising, since I thought Viz would've jumped at the chance to advertise a Jackie Chan interview. Oh well.
Yeah, it would have been nice to have it, but the book looks awesome enough as is. But hey, we've got it translated over at Kanzentai [/shameless].
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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:26 am
Herms wrote:Forgotten Hero wrote:Shenlong Times? Sure for being dim.
They're little 8-page inserts that came with each of the daizenshuu. They have interviews with various DragonBall-related people like Toriyama's editors, comics drawn by Toriyama, fan letters from famous DragonBall fans like Jacky Chan, and then current DragonBall news.
MagicBox wrote:Herms wrote:But I assume there's no Shenlong Times?
'Fraid not. I wasn't really expecting it, but it still was a little surprising, since I thought Viz would've jumped at the chance to advertise a Jackie Chan interview. Oh well.
Yeah, it would have been nice to have it, but the book looks awesome enough as is. But hey, we've got it translated over at Kanzentai [/shameless].
Yeah, it has some writings in the back, but no Jacky. Why would they have removed that?
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by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:33 am
Yeah, it has some writings in the back, but no Jacky. Why would they have removed that?
They didn't, it was never
in the book. It was in a little booklet that originally came with the daizenshuu.
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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:40 am
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Yeah, it has some writings in the back, but no Jacky. Why would they have removed that?
They didn't, it was never
in the book. It was in a little booklet that originally came with the daizenshuu.
Ok, so do you have it? Can I see it on Kanzentai?
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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:02 am
Cool read
Funny how the editors are models for villains

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by Herms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:46 am
It's worth noting that in DragonBall Forever, Toriyama somewhat denies that he based the villians off his editors. He says he doesn't remember doing it on purpose, but admits that he very well could have done it unconciously. Incidently, here's something I've alway found funny:
Toriyama talking about the creation of Piccolo Daimao in his
Daizenshuu 2 interview:
With all the villains up to that point, there was always something likable about them. So Piccolo Daimao was born from me trying to create a truly bad guy.
Shenlong Times #1's proflie for his first editor:
Kazuhiko Torishima (initial editor)
Currently the head editor of V-Jump. Was the editor from the beginning of DragonBall until the end of the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai. It's rumored that he was the model for Piccolo Daimao.
So...Toriyama's true feelings about his editor revealed? In addition, Kazuhiko Torishima also served as the basis for the Dr.Slump villian Dr. Mashirito (To-ri-shi-ma with the syllables reversed).
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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:51 am
lol, that is awesome!
I'll go check your site for the translation for DBZ Forever. Having it in Japanese doesn't help

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by SSj_Rambo » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:04 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:lol, that is awesome!
I'll go check your site for the translation for DBZ Forever. Having it in Japanese doesn't help

You'll have to wait a while for that. It's not up yet and before
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Hujio translate it and put it up they are going to do Daizenshuu 3,5 and 10, then they will do 6 then 7 (which will take forever, considering it's immense size and how well they do their translations and stuff) and then they said that they will do quick little summaries for Daizenshuu 8 and 9. I don't know in what order they will do the DBGT perfect files and the 4 anime and manga guide books, but sadly it won't be for a while...but that's the price for such quality work!

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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:16 am
SSj_Rambo wrote:Forgotten Hero wrote:lol, that is awesome!
I'll go check your site for the translation for DBZ Forever. Having it in Japanese doesn't help

You'll have to wait a while for that. It's not up yet and before
Herms and
Hujio translate it and put it up they are going to do Daizenshuu 3,5 and 10, then they will do 6 then 7 (which will take forever, considering it's immense size and how well they do their translations and stuff) and then they said that they will do quick little summaries for Daizenshuu 8 and 9. I don't know in what order they will do the DBGT perfect files and the 4 anime and manga guide books, but sadly it won't be for a while...but that's the price for such quality work!

I will have patience, we all have lives out side of this forum.

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by Herms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:47 am
We might skip the Carddass daizenshuu altogether. DragonBall Landmark and Forever are the books I want to do most after finishing the daizenshuu, and it shouldn't take too long to do them, since most of their contents are recycled from the daizenshuu, which we'll just skip over. So leaving that all out it's mostly just the Toriyama essays, the name pun guide (which I've already done) and a few other odds and ends.
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by Forgotten Hero » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:55 am
Herms wrote:We might skip the Carddass daizenshuu altogether. DragonBall Landmark and Forever are the books I want to do most after finishing the daizenshuu, and it shouldn't take too long to do them, since most of their contents are recycled from the daizenshuu, which we'll just skip over. So leaving that all out it's mostly just the Toriyama essays, the name pun guide (which I've already done) and a few other odds and ends.
Sweet! There is no point to do any Card-Ass stuff anyways, all though I did see one Card-Ass machine at Little Tokyo, Los Angles. It wasn't Dragonball, I was Dragon Quest I think...Yeah, it was I still have some cards I think.
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by shotkeeper » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:33 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:[img]I%20Removed%20the%20image[/img]
Here it is in my room. I have to fix my pictures, sorry

OMG that's even bigger than I expected and the pictures look awesome. I never even saw the middelfinger pic, wow. I can't wait!
BTW does anyone know if the kanzenban are the same size as the daizenshuu?
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by mrkaizoku » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:08 am
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by Kingdom Heartless » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:21 am
I look forward to checking this out. I love my Rurouni Kenshin artwork book (forget what it is called), even though I can't read it.
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by Herms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:16 am
shotkeeper wrote:BTW does anyone know if the kanzenban are the same size as the daizenshuu?
The daizenshuu are quite a bit bigger, roughly 25% taller and wider.
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by shotkeeper » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:27 am
Herms wrote:shotkeeper wrote:BTW does anyone know if the kanzenban are the same size as the daizenshuu?
The daizenshuu are quite a bit bigger, roughly 25% taller and wider.
WOW, now that's what I call big. I have the VIZBIG and if I remember right, those were almost the same as Kanzenban. So I can pretty much estimate how big the daizenshuu is. Wow, that's big lol.
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by DBZGokuSaiyan » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:37 pm
Man... I've been waiting for like, 5 YEARS to get my very own Daizenshuu!!!! Thank you, VIZ!!!!

I'll definitely be picking this and the rest up if they decide to translate them.

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by Chrono Trigger » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:42 pm
I totally screwed up. I ordered the paperback and not the hardcover and it arrives today ! That really sucks.
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by Herms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:50 pm
I didn't know there was both a hardcover and paperback edition. In fact I think there is only a hardcover edition, and Amazon just incorrectly lists it as a paperback (or at least that's what Tanooki Kuribo's experience seems to indicate).